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Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

Re: QR CODE

Date: 2022-11-10 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmmmm, tempting. But there are surveillance cameras everywhere now. Perhaps the oopsie factor can be employed...

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-10 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Supporters of the convoy, which was protesting an end to vaccine mandates, are wondering why the pro-mandate, pro-lockdown lawyer for Trudeau seemingly had a stroke during the public inquiry today.

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1590442992661590016?s=20&t=eaQnp5zXjYofkvw8yCpp0Q&fbclid=IwAR2H3AIgmKRm4Qd2sOmFnTSlYZVHdZhcOzBkFnp6y5Q0916Ohya_Bji-qc0

Karma bites.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

Date: 2022-11-10 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] va_mtn_man
Live in small tribes again, no big cities where you can live anonymously.

VA Mtn Man
onesage: (Default)
From: [personal profile] onesage
Hi Erika, I am also Erika. You want to meet people, create a collective to resist - I like it! Where do I sign up? Or contact you? I see you talk to other regulars here outside this forum - how did you figure that out? I mostly lurk here. I tried but couldn’t figure out how to comment on your podcast so apologies to our esteemed host for the hijack and I tie it back to Covid with the idea that we will need these real world life lines, something outside the internet is key to surviving the next one. It’s a delicate balance of anonymity and lack thereof that makes a reasonable internet footprint these days, I understand and similarly protect my energies. But I feel the need for connection all of a sudden, in my bones.

Re: breaking the binary

Date: 2022-11-10 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kashtan
I didn't watch the Oregon governor's race closely, but it seems common for third party candidates to poll relatively high a few months before the election then have their support dwindle as the date approaches. I'm used to seeing this in races where the candidate never had any numbers as high as 35% so I've always attributed it to people jumping ship to vote for the major party candidate that they consider the lesser of two evils once it's increasingly clear that the third party candidate isn't going to win. 35% could have been enough to win a three-way race though, so it's discouraging that so many people fell for the propaganda even after all we've been through the past few years.

You make a good point with #2, the physical and mental fragility of modern Americans throws a wrench into any predictions. The military is finding it hard to find enough people who pass the physical exam these days. However, the rich and powerful might think they can get around this by bringing in mercenaries from parts of the world that don't have as much of the modern, climate-controlled, safety-focused lifestyle.

As far as #3 goes, I agree that the divisions in modern America are very different than they were in the 1860s, and any modern civil war will be very different from the previous one. What concerns me is that during the Civil War, the regions where loyalties were divided often suffered most of all, even if they weren't in the path of the major armies. Families were divided, and warbands used the lawlessness of the war as an excuse to ravage the land. Cities/regions with different loyalties than the surrounding areas had a rough time of it too, an example being Knoxville, TN which was a stronghold for unionists in a confederate state.

Other nations also may have interest in provoking civil war here in America and destroying the heart of the American empire. I already wonder how much China is adding fuel to the fire through influence of social media. If civil war does break out, the complex map of political loyalties could make the outcome worse than if the majority of regions were clearly on one side or the other.

Re: Covidians still fearful at local hospital

Date: 2022-11-11 12:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There might be some essential oils or treatment available to reduce the visible markings? Yeah, I hear you - tough on a teenager re appearance.
From: (Anonymous)
The eclipse itself woke me up in the middle of the night out here in the pacific



!!!!!! This really strikes me as a 'wow' moment!
From: (Anonymous)
It's a good cop/ bad cop show.

Quite the production. 5% but I doubt higher of the new & old politicians in Washington of either party are sane, decent, empathetic, not on the take, not beyond blackmail, not warmongers.

It's hard to imagine 'rooting' for Mitch McConnell or the other root-beer float brains.
As for the 'progressives' my god what a collection of wax statuettes.
From: (Anonymous)
Could you please mention who the poet was who originally penned the phrase 'Don't follow the Wrong God Home?' I see several references to that phrase online. It's a rather amazing phrase.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-11-11 12:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Silo-thinking and "us" v. "them" labeling can easily keep anyone disconnected from reality. Whatever their in-group du jour says they should think and feel can cause quickly so much anger, fear, hate.

I'm glad now I have always been an introvert. Never part of a clique in school. Always an oddball few could label accurately. Wary of any new fad or in-group peer pressure. As the USA holidays approach I'm suddenly being invited back to a family Thanksgiving table after being thrown out - literally - last year for declining to state my medical history and the year before for not being worthy to be in their "bubble." Whenever I feel anger, fear or hate about those sorts of actions, I go into nature, let my mind wander, and then find it easy to "forgive" them. But I can't forget while accepting last year many of them will forget, twisting themselves into knots to blame anyone but themselves for the harms they did not just to me but to themselves, too.

Watched this week the movie, "The Banshees of Inisherin." A seething cauldron of people going nuts on an island each with uncontrollable internal fears. A bleak scenery of a treeless island checkerboarded with stone walls enclosing small fields of poor tired soil. A visual metaphor for every person living in their own painful walled reality. In the end, each character had to choose in their own different ways and in their own time what to forgive or not, forget or not.

W.R..

Re: Masks

Date: 2022-11-11 12:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I looked up the Seinfield episode/clip about that yesterday!

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-11 12:33 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Orthodox priest Twitter account

Not following 'the speed of science' down to the pharmacy it seems :-)

https://twitter.com/AnaniasFather

Re: angry and scared about election results

Date: 2022-11-11 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dendroica
"For people whose opposition to mandates came mainly from concern for bodily autonomy, it made the red side seem not a consistent, reliable ally."

Very much so, to the point that while I will no longer vote blue, I also won't vote red.

As for DeSantis, this seemed to be a good assessment: https://unherd.com/thepost/ron-desantis-the-new-champion-of-trumpism/ He and Trump have had a bit of a falling out since the whole election-denial business.

Florida also used the end of Roe to pass a compromise 15-week abortion ban, bucking the trend of states moving to opposite extreme positions on the issue.

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-11 12:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's true about the single women.

I also never underestimate 'shenanigans.'
People playing for 'all the marbles' (who don't see the giant marbles all around) will
use their lower nature to connive.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

Date: 2022-11-11 12:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Christophe,
Most dangerous psychopaths can't be deterred, are very bright and motivated and rarely respond to rehabilitation. Some like Hariri revel in describing, in detail, what they will subject the "usless eaters" to while proclaiming their virtious mandate to do so.
We've lost an eldery family member within eight weeks of a second dose to aggressive brain cancer and seen complications in others.
We've learned to believe people when they show us who they are.

Re: Unexpected Truckers Commission News Flash

Date: 2022-11-11 12:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh yes VERY interesting!!!

https://twitter.com/KenWinsor4/status/1590528644027678720

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

Date: 2022-11-11 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kayr
Thanks for your ideas. I think you are right about dreary work, very tedious and of course, case by case, situation by situation. I have already told one friend that I wouldn't discuss COVID with her anymore as I valued our friendship too much to damage it by continuing in such discussions. I don't think my anger was quite cool yet in that situation, but I wanted it to be, so I just called Pax. As time goes on, I think my original knee jerk othering reactions have calmed down. I may not love the COVIDIANS in my life, but at least, I don't want to other them, I hope. I think there is something of Aikido or Sun Tsu about all this. Seems to me that when your anger seeks expression in hate, you have already hit the matt.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

Date: 2022-11-11 01:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(commenter with self-evaluation)
I'm not sure I said this in the best spirit. I think the comments in the first two sentences
are somewhat, more than somewhat, 'dingy' and unfair.

Re: We're on our own...

Date: 2022-11-11 01:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Papa can take very good care of himself. Trust that... so don't anticipate to save him. You cheat you and me when you edit your emotional reality. If you lived 2023 like art you would stop deleting anywhere and be open to spontaneous fresh human naked and loving moments.... like here and now..

You defend yourself and wanna be liked and I say this i like you real and emotional and excited.

Even the ochre curmudgeon can take care of herself. ...a dude wouldn't have cared.

You cheated me and us by taking yourself out as you were. This is classic female stuff and where a lot of our rage comes from, for in your head bowing out and behaving will net you something in return.

What it is is different for each game player and the source of much agony because we are rarely ever up front about the terms....even to ourselves.

So I dare and beg for more scribbling outside the lines from you in 2023 because as a woman i crave more passionate emotional daring honest women like yourself. And you're brand new at this so it will be wobbly at times....yes plan many apologies but art needs air laughter forgiveness and all the snot placenta bones and screams.

If you are not safe as well as encouraged to fly and fxck up after all the love and sweat and time you've put in here...where oh where can you?


Xxxxxxx

Erika

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-11 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lincoln_lynx
Roe v Wade is a much more plausible explanation. Republicans also self-sabotaged on even considering attacking Medicare and Social Security.

Re: International Travel Ban

Date: 2022-11-11 02:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Many Asian nations are requiring vaccinations and boosters plus tests for entry or a tourist visa.

China wants all of the above, plus the PCR test and a Covid fecal test. The US does not require a fecal test or any test for entry.
From: (Anonymous)
Its bad in another blue redoubt where I am. I forgot to do the sphere of protection for about four to six hours, (aka it was 30 hours between doing them rather than 24) and felt like I was dying from emotional pain and despair for no reason, could barely even move for a bit. Did the SOP, staggered to bed, emotions totally gone. Happened again two days later in the same basic way, so probably isnt just my imagination.

-Derpherder

Re: WORDLE

Date: 2022-11-11 02:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Regarding the flatness of character, the obvious change that’s occurred. I’m open to the whole spectrum of suggestions, from pure science to far out woo woo. It might be very simple though. We might be seeing a collective thousand-yard-stare. That thing you see all the time in war photos.

My sense is that covid (and Ukraine) are a one two combo. Ukraine let’s people all over the world FEEL like a Great War is happening, and it sort of ticks all the boxes power gets by having a war. But it’s (so far), nice and contained. For everyone outside of Ukraine, it’s like a roller coaster ride. All the thrills and chills, none of the actual danger.

Covid is where the actual dying happens. Whatever the cause, if you buy the covid narrative or if you think it’s all lizard people killing everyone, it’s hard to deny lots of people are dying, or have died. It’s on the scale of a decent sized global war. People might just be psychologically wiped out, aware that danger is about, death is stalking the hospital halls. 3 years of semi-regular adrenaline dumps can take a toll. Add to that the likely reality that many people ARE injured, and what I think we are seeing all around, in those blank stares, is a sea of walking wounded, subconsciously pondering what battle weary soldiers ponder.

Plus there is probably some woo layered onto that as well ;)

Murmuration.

Re: QR CODE

Date: 2022-11-11 02:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Actually, I contacted the government agency overseeing this and told them I did not have a smartphone for health reasons. They said I would have to undertake some kind of procedures ahead of time, but I could still enter Japan without a smartphone. However, I was concerned about quarantining upon return, if they deemed it necessary. When I asked whether they would have quarantine facilities without Wi-Fi, they just gave me the brush off. Since I have two other strikes against me (unjabbinated like you, and pro-Russia), I'd better sit still for a while until we can get some recognition as disabled.
Meanwhile, Japan's leading activist for EHS and MCS human rights has been forced to flee her home in Sapporo. The strategy she has promoted is "shelter in place," since Japan lacks places to flee. Her house was well shielded, but the noise from construction of a campground next to her house was too much on top of the increasing electromagnetic burden we are all dealing with.

Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision

Date: 2022-11-11 03:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Charles Eisenstein’s prose is very measured, stately and processional. Probably this is a habit acquired from addressing people whose minds dwell in academic circles, who are all thinking of how best to challenge any errors and contradict whatever anyone else says. Mainly because that kind of sharp clashing / quick reaction is key to their success, status, and survival at work. Like revving up rivalry between Army and Navy on the football field and everybody dissing the Coast Guards. The idea is to be always ready for battle with a keen loyalty to Your Own Side.

So Eisenstein has to say everything indirectly. Each point he makes has to be repeated three times always from a different angle. He goes in with shields up, plants his foot securely on common ground. Every step he takes after that is carefully placed and defended from all sides. Otherwise, he cannot occupy territory claimed by the other fellows.

It seems needlessly wordy to someone who simply says what they mean and means what they say. But words are tricky and have a mind of their own, in print especially. They sometime twist up to look us in the face like the flamingo Alice uses to hit the hedgehog when playing Looking-glass croquet.

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