Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I have a theory about this amnesty/forgiveness jibber jabber.

Instead of the pro-vaccinators making an actual appeal for an amnesty/forgiveness, perhaps what this represents is the bargaining phase of grief?

It seems pretty obvious that IF the pro-vaccinators have all made a terrible health mistake by getting vaccinated that they cannot become 'right' by receiving an amnesty, or forgiveness, from the anti-vaccination side. Instead, they'll have to work things through with nature/reality.

Surely, being 'right' in this case can only come from thinking and behaving in a way that comports with the facts/reality, so the whole forgiveness/amnesty proposition seems wrongheaded if what they are looking to achieve is safety and security. And of course, how we 'feel' about reality doesn't change the fact that it exists. Pleading with the oncoming hurricane is unlikely to help so much as seeking shelter. Similarly, the unvaccinated could wish the vaccinated all the well in the world as the storm approaches, and it won't mean a whole lot if the physical reality of receiving the shots is 'category 5' dangerous.

Same thing applies if events happen to go the other way of course.

Only the pro-vaccinated can make themselves in the 'right' if their perceptions/beliefs and actions are out of lockstep with reality. Fortunately for them, they also happen to be the ones with all of the institutions, politicians, media, etc. lined up on their side, so they are in a good place to change how they think and behave. After all, they are the ones with the power and msm authority, including presumably the power to amnesty themselves (the unvaccinated certainly are surely in a worse position to do that) if they wanted to. I guess all 'team vaccinated/pro-vaccinators' have to do is get over themselves and get motivated to do something different.

"Can we please all just let bygones be bygones and get along?"

Sure, if it helps get people moving, but the vaccinated really need to plead their case with nature/reality, not the unvaccinated, because concessions from nature aren't the unvaccinated's to give!

The vaccinated must realize this themselves, which seemingly supports the argument that what is happening is opening salvos of the bargaining process that the vaccinated need to go through before they can arrive at accepting the inevitable conclusion that nature/reality doesn't bargain, followed by going about the business of comporting with reality like all rational and logical people ultimately have to do after they have made a mistake.

But okay, if it helps the vaccinated feel any better to have my personal forgiveness then they have it. Now it's up to them to go out and make themselves 'right' with nature/reality, which is something that they have to do for themselves. And if the pro-vaccinators have actually made the worst of all terrible mistakes, then for whatever that's worth. I'll be around to hold their hands as events unfold.

This is a very strange time, with all sorts of strange behaviour due to stress, fear, isolation, and mountains of irrational thinking/logical fallacies etc., so if I've lost it a bit myself, I trust you'll all understand.

And whatever the case, and for whatever it's worth, I still plan on objecting to and resisting various aspects of this whole self-inflicted bio-techno authoritarian disaster.

The Ninth Mouse