Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65
Nov. 1st, 2022 11:47 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-06 08:04 pm (UTC)https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/death-tsunami-they-found-a-way-to
If you assume the 6 million dead from covid this "Our World in Data" chart shows (which I don't, these numbers are absurdly rigged. But let's be generous), and track up to the lower bound of "excess dead" at something like 17 million, we reach 11 million non-covid excess dead. If we use the upper bound of something like 27 million, then we are at 21 million non-covid excess dead, surpassing the WW2 numbers already, and my sense is we are just getting started.
Murmuration
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-06 10:04 pm (UTC)Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-07 04:42 am (UTC)No, the math is clearly not that simple. But orders of magnitude are worth pondering. Are these numbers in the ballpark? Also, if 3 million kids die each and every year, do those qualify as excess? Or are they accounted for as standard yearly deaths? Being that the ~20 million current deaths in the covid era are excess, and could be anything from suicides of despair to malnutrition to covid to vaccines, but surely are policy adjacent deaths, my inclination isn’t to be a stickler and say “these are vaccine related and these are not” but to be way more inclusive and holistic and say “did these idiots cause conditions leading to 20 million excess deaths for any reason?” If the answer is yes, that’s good enough for my case brought before Q.
Murmuration
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-07 06:03 pm (UTC)Oof. That's what I was worried about.