Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

Comments

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

[(Anonymous)]

"We believe that it is vitally important for all of our children to be fully vaccinated...."

I remember reading somewhere that doctors get some sort of incentive payments based on what percent of their patients are "fully vaccinated" by age two, so having non-fully vaccinated patients cuts into their kickbacks.

Although I can't remember where I saw it, so I can't confirm.

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

[(Anonymous)]

If true, this provides a good opportunity for some awkward questions when trying to find a new doc.

(It would also make for a hell of a website, listing who's on the take and who's not.) Couldn't be phrased that baldly, but I know I'd sure like to know any doc of mine is not operating under any other incentives.

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

[(Anonymous)]

If/when I ever pick up another pediatrician, I will *definitely* be asking about this. First unclear answer and I'm out. Kickbacks mean the doc's working for drug companies, not me.

Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'

[(Anonymous)]

The prgrams go by a variety of names:
Pay for Performance 'P4P'
Performance Recognition Program
Incentive Program

They are for all types of treatments. Search engine the guides and they are easy to find. Here is one from wisconsin. Page twelve gives an idea of money involved.

https://www.forwardhealth.wi.gov/wiportal/content/provider/medicaid/hospital/p4p_guides/pdf/MY2022_HospitalP4P_Guide.pdf.spage

A 2016 Performance Recognition Program Provider Incentive Guide that I have from Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Blue Care Network, on page 15 lists a child of 2 years of age who meets the vaccination schedule is worth $400 of kickback.

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