Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65
Nov. 1st, 2022 11:47 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-03 02:24 am (UTC)I must have secretly wished for my new state of loneliness maybe on account of being 'negative.'
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-03 02:12 pm (UTC)Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-03 04:01 pm (UTC)No, I DON'T want to live in that world. That's exactly the point. I'm not sure if you have been watching the past few years but many many people HAVE been living in exactly that world. We want OUT. Yes, the shunning, sure. That's people's right to behave that way. The people affected will get over it (or not). What about the pilots who were hauled in front of a tribunal and told to hand in their wings, because their health opinion hurt people's feelings? Or the doctors and nurses tried before boards and lost their right to practice? Or truckers who lost their freedom of movement? Or the millions who were called into HR tribunals to have their religious exemptions denied? Or very nearly everyone who tried to go to the beach or a shop or a restaurant and were ticketed or physically assaulted by police? And on, and on, and on. It would be impossible to fully recount the tribunals of the last three years. I couldn't think of a better term for this period of time thank "The Tribunal Era".
All of us who haven't bent the knee have been living through three years of unending tribunal, and for many of us, it's not been a metaphorical tribunal either. We don't want that world. And many of us intend to make sure it never happens again.
Murmuration
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-03 05:54 pm (UTC)In the U.S., it is extremely hard to punish government employees via the courts for anything they do in the performance of their duties. Our courts have said a police officer can't even be sued for letting his dog savage the face of an innocent random homeless person because no historic court ruling had said that precise act was unconstitutional! So while it would be nice if the bureaucrats who *forced* hospitals to fire people for being unvaxxed could serve prison time for their role in wrecking American health care, it's very unlikely to happen - unless corruption can be proven, or unless we end up with a star chamber where whatever the judges say becomes law.
As for people getting fired by private employers for not getting vaxxed, in the U.S. you can get fired for almost any reason. Do I remember correctly that you are in Germany? Your employer probably cannot throw you out to starve at the drop of a hat, so it seems shocking to you. Here, that happens all the time.
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-03 04:35 pm (UTC)Or am I just listening to the wrong independent media sources?
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-04 12:50 am (UTC)I fight against saying something cruel. One of the phrases I am tempted to use is horrible and perhaps even' thinking
it moves me dangerously close to raspberry jam territory. And why do I think of this phrase? Anger, pain, fear and hurt in part through changed
circumstances (now) and in part through persecutions (threatened in particular).
I feel helpless to protect my loved ones and need to remember to turn this into a spiritual discipline.
There are a number of reasons I'd like to see certain people hauled in front of a tribunal and receive punishments ranging from most severe (for murder)
to mild but not
for hurting my feelings.