Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

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States Not Requiring Covax for School

[methylethyl]

Reposting from previous thread, since the reply was so late-- but someone asked where to find out which states would not be requiring the shots for school attendance.

Not on Twitter! I tried searching it there yesterday, thinking someone, surely, would have a nifty chart posted by now. But there seems to be a search ban in place on that subject.

Poking around, it's really irritating trying to find it, and I haven't been able to track down a comprehensive list, only individual articles, for which one has to check the date, to see if it was said before, or after, the CDC ruling, plus a bunch of partial lists that don't match up with each other. Arg. Here's what I've turned up in a cursory search:

--Florida, at least, has not only not-required it for school, it has not ordered its health departments to stock it for that purpose (typically, shots on the childhood schedule can be gotten for free at the local HD anywhere in the state), and recommends against it for males under 40 based on the state's own myocarditis study.

--Kansas: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kansas-not-planning-require-covid-200012714.html

--Ohio: https://www.sent-trib.com/2022/10/23/covid-vaccine-not-required-for-ohio-students/

--Tennessee: https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2022/10/21/tennessee-cdc-covid-19-vaccine-recommended-immunization-schedule-gov-bill-lee/69580326007/

--Virginia? No official action, I think, but Youngkin has said it won't happen: https://www.nbc12.com/2022/10/24/virginia-department-health-provides-insight-covid-vaccine-guidelines-schools/

--Utah: https://www.deseret.com/utah/2022/10/26/23424704/covid-shots-added-cdc-recommended-immunizations-list-impact-utah

This site lists statements from 11 governors to the same effect, and posts the Twitter blurbs for each, has:

Colorado
Connecticut
Florida
Iowa
Tennessee
Alabama
Utah
South Dakota
Oklahoma
Virginia
Missouri

This article has a different list and adds: https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/10/21/at-least-11-states-say-no-to-mandatory-covid-19-shots-for-kids/

Wyoming
Montana
West Virginia
South Carolina
Georgia
Arkansas
Arizona

Some of these are based on policy that predates the CDC guidelines, simply saying the covid vax will not be required to go to school. It might be good to check up on them and see if they've said anything specific *since* then. I'm pretty sure Texas falls into this category (of having said "no" to all that back when CA said they'd mandate it).

This site: https://deeprootsathome.com/list-of-states-that-say-no-to-c-19-vaccine-mandate-for-school-kids/

has a list of 19 states that have "banned" the requiring of the covid vax for school attendance:
Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Mississippi
Montana
New Hampshire
Ohio
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia

If it's your state, I'd actually pick up the phone and call the local school board and health department and ask!

But, it's also important, if you're looking at where to move, or where to send your kids to school, to also check in with perhaps a local antivax organization in the target state, and see how easy/hard it is to get an exemption. Some states, like TX, allow for philosophical exemptions-- meaning you basically just have to file the paperwork saying you don't want it, for ANY of the shots on the childhood schedule. I'm not sure which other states might have that sort of thing.

In addition, there are several states heading into interesting gubernatorial races in a week (like NY) where the outcome of the election might determine which way the state goes on that issue.

Re: States Not Requiring Covax for School

[dendroica]

If this goes the way I expect it to (i.e. if it's about getting liability protection rather than enforcing compliance) it will be very easy to get an exemption just about everywhere except maybe NYC, SF, and some other blue cities. But we'll see...

Re: States Not Requiring Covax for School

[methylethyl]

Yeah, I am kind of expecting that also. But maybe not until after the current election.

Re: States Not Requiring Covax for School

[tamanous2020]

Thank you for this list

Re: States Not Requiring Covax for School

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks!

On an earlier thread someone posted a list of states and exemption types: https://vaccines.procon.org/state-vaccination-exemptions-for-children-entering-public-schools/

-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent

Re: States Not Requiring Covax for School

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this