Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 56
Aug. 30th, 2022 04:59 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Answer to SCOTLYN:
Date: 2022-09-03 06:01 pm (UTC)(response to an ever-thinning thread: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/196739.html?thread=34068355#cmt34068355)
good morning and i WAS completely lost and figured either we were talking about different things/ or if the same, then there was no hope of my ever understanding because i couldn't SEE your face, eyes, body language and get what you were REALLY on about.
so you felt that sharing how you broke to new depths with a beloved was PRIVATE. indeed! very much so.
i wasn't asking for finger prints or stained dresses, i was asking: IF THIS IS SO SACRED AND PRIVATE HOW DO WE EVER HOPE GET OVER THE TERROR OF FINDING APPROACHING MEETING AND DEEPLY KNOWING EACH OTHER???
people are fine with all sorts of other prior embarrassments like tantrums and fits of rage, but what about balance for the vulnerable embarrassments???
i think it's the ONLY reason so many crappy ideas have a hold on too many of us as well as our LACK OF IMAGINATIONS, but if we SEE something in the real, acted out, said, or expressed, we feel COURAGE.
that's also why it's the job of certain writers, thinkers, philosophers, comedians, artists, poets, actors, dancers, shamans, mages-- all who are most curious about the most extreme expressions and experiences of being truly deeply HUMAN...and that they court train and exert the courage to go inside into what is most private, terrifying, avoided... and bring what is in the dark, to LIGHT.
or at least keep things from being binary. we're supposed to keep culture's coversations complex, different, expansive.
so i didn't think i was asking you to out anyone or yourself, only SEE that because we are so "private" we don't remember how it really looks to be truly human... we have forgotten how it looks to be embarrassed or ashamed or hurt and eventually SHAKE IT OFF.
we, who are in this game, have to counter the magic phone world that is human made to keep them hooked.
people now are worse than nodding out heroin addicts: too damn touchy twitchy and hella triggered, and i think it's because someone wasn't too ashamed to popularize public tantrums but going along to be liked.(i don't get this)
in upside down world, screw institutionalized arts thinking education religion... i want to bring theatrical and artistic principles into REAL LIFE. get them away from the safe distance of a white wall fourth wall or ANY institution... i want to help popularize a human backlash against this technocratic fascistic bureaucracy... by being openly shy awkward hurt embarrassed outspoken unsure or sad, because rage is easy and now i find it boring. / i myself LOVE seeing when someone goes all out as themselves with HEART and it hardly seems weak, as we've been told. IT'S FASCINATING.
watching someone be real is so unusual IT CROSSES THE TRANSACTION ITSELF.
in that pause you may be able to buy time or reach the other's soul.
the person, the one who isn't affected in the least, the one who doesn't care, shrugs, suddenly looks cold dead uninteresting and acts like they've been there before?... / Not the one i wanna hang with listen to or fall in love over.
they used to seem swaggery and chill. now? don't waste my time.
no good conversations with people always trying to save face. i don't try to convince or understand a wall; i just get bored and go away.
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this is why i didn't understand what you were saying at all.
this wasn't about doing anything right or being wrong or stripped down. it was an obvious Giacometti moment, meaning i used to think he liked stick figure sculptures. i had NO IDEA they hadn't started out that way / he was always taking away to get at the basic truth and essence... and then they turned into stick figures.
THAT is all i am interested in.
yes, i used to be able to shred people, un-do them, top them. to what end? that's just ego tripping.
and even i get vertigo. so when i get it off someone i take breaks time off to be with it.
in this culture we're taught to panic and immediately cleave to one another out of desperation safety and relief, but that doesn't last and...
it's not REAL.
i don't "know" anything, Scotlyn. i'm just pulling masses of clay off This American Experiment to see what we can work with, if anything.
one of the lost posts on this was about Mark L's mom's take on all this and a blending of Papa G's. i'm realistic AND optimistic because i know how James loved me and it was like BAM! so fast.
but like seeing the same thing and coming out with different takes, that is why i'm optimistic about humanity / on the other hand that is why James is pessimistic about humanity.
i got what James meant when he first explained it but now i don't get it. that's sort of how i feel about our interchange, Scotlyn. (smile)
and yeah... it's okay!
x
erika
Re: Answer to SCOTLYN:
Date: 2022-09-03 07:36 pm (UTC)"i don't "know" anything, Scotlyn. i'm just pulling masses of clay off This American Experiment to see what we can work with, if anything."
And I do not "know" anything either... I have had to look up Giacometti, and I will confess that (to me) art is a language I do not speak at all! But "human" I think I can manage.
"all who are most curious about the most extreme expressions and experiences of being truly deeply HUMAN...and that they court train and exert the courage to go inside into what is most private, terrifying, avoided... and bring what is in the dark, to LIGHT."
This, the bringing of what is in the dark, to Light... yes, this is important, and what we are doing, as much as it is possible, in the clinic... I say "we" because each clinical encounter is a two-handed reel... and much that is dark does not wish to be brought to the Light... but the human being will recover their health, their well-being, when what is in the dark is brought to Light.
Did you know, dear Erika, that the term that is used in Spanish to describe a birth is "to give to the Light"? In Spanish we say "dar a Luz" when we speak about giving birth to a new human being. So, while I do not speak "artist" very well, I think I can speak "midwife"... and will definitely be thinking much on what you say.
Also, you see, it is not necessarily a bad thing when two people remember a conversation so differently... as Hearthspirit pointed out, sometimes those are the times we have to think harder about what was said vs what was heard.
Anyway, you are always worth hearing, and if I mishear, I hope you will not be put out by a little bit of argumentation in the cause of putting us back on the track of connecting... that bridge which is built by understanding. Argumentation is the way I know best for doing that. (not that it is the only or the best way, just that it is the way I know best.)
Be well, and stay free!
Re: Answer to SCOTLYN:
Date: 2022-09-03 10:03 pm (UTC)i must make talking "artist" more clear because it is far prettier than "upside down world" or "hell." among artists (here i including all creatives thinkers and mages... SENSITIVES), arguments and misunderstandings are readily accepted as THE THING. the accident is what is meant to happen.
and Giacometti and all the artists i speak of are just part of my ARTISTIC lineage and how i got to attach words to ways i was already thinking and feeling.
work we assumed we may not have liked is often because we were unconsciously flinching from something we recognized in ourselves in its maker or in its conception. as in: all that you make fun of you will eventually embrace. the lay person's version of: if you hate gays blacks or jews, you'll eventually end up with them in the family. whatever you hate will find you.
so embrace this.
this is why i "preach" to the feral and suidical. they've nothing to lose so i say to the broken down... "fine... kill yourself.. but since you're gonna die early anyway, why not go out living how you wanted to all along if people were no hindrance!"
because you have to DIE to LIVE
yes! we artists shamans drag queens and all around freaks... we have empathy because we have pain from being DIFFERENT and sometimes people wipe their evil slime on us when they think we won't remember talk or fight back and instead of being bitter we know their PAIN... some go further into darkness and some come back and have a second sight for the paradigms...
this is why i feel like i'm faltering in today's society. all that i've learned to read about people is ..it doesn't WORK. demons zombies magic phones edward bernays... i don't know.
but i DO want to write something that seems disconnected but isn't because i'd read !EL GATO!s piece on not being distracted by the sideshows ... and focus on what we've gotta DO... and Papa G asks the same...
we are habituated to our roles of trotting out the indignities the absurdities.
some of us here are nudging you all:
it's over. it's done. this is what it is. and it ain't all coming back ANY time soon. Trump... de Santis... Trump de Santis Ron Paul ...there is no Super Group. the 90s are over.
everyone is famous now and they're all miserable starlets trying to commit suicide.
it's time to LET them and deal with reality and figure out WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN ANYTHING CAN BE MADE ILLEGAL AT ANY TIME FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AS PEOPLE STEAL FROM THE TREASURY AND WALGREEN'S IN PLAIN SIGHT.
so yes, Scotlyn... MIDWIFING a new world in. that's our job. each one here has a role. that's what's so astounding about being alive now.
frankly i'm glad i didn't commit suicide and stuck around for THIS living suicide.
it hurts, i get sad, but... we're UP, you know? something to DO.
and i wanna nudge the commentariat here back to more of THAT because it is what it is. we can only be apalled so much more before it becomes a distant collective way of kvetching.
pushing our peas around on the plate for an eternity.
there's no going back.
the security guard outside trader joe's, the one who got the shot and then open heart surgery and a year out of work, he was horrified at how they took the ATM machine away.
he said the owner of the mostly empty shopping center told him that people are going to online paying. he said No they're NOT! that machine was busy.
if i'm wrong (shrug) at least i'll have FUN on the way out.
yes! MIDWIFING. i have used that term before but i'm not sure what we're midwifing yet. that's why i'm HERE.
(huge smile)
anyhow, dear Scotlyn, there's another saying about artists painting the same painting a thousand times, and that's what i'm AFRAID of.
it's about not gouging out that which we don't like but understanding it so that like Hearthspirit...we are no longer fragile to small sabotages and can take it or leave it, and be clearer about what you will allow in from then on.
midwifing! yes.
thank YOU as well.
x
erika
p.s. even if we were midwifing in Rosemary's Baby, i'd be confident i could turn it around. yes... IT. it is an energy an idea.
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Re: Answer to SCOTLYN:
Date: 2022-09-04 05:32 pm (UTC)As to "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN ANYTHING CAN BE MADE ILLEGAL AT ANY TIME FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AS PEOPLE STEAL FROM THE TREASURY AND WALGREEN'S IN PLAIN SIGHT."
To me: "What we always did". People have always "navigated" whatever the current "steal" is, which has always been trying to do them in, and has only sometime worked, but often doesn't because folk get "stupid" when it comes to "helping" authority and drag their feet and "know nothing", while sneakily "poaching" back what was stolen, and watching each other's backs.
It is people who abide. Not by law, but by obstinacy, by staying under the radar, by not complying, by looking after whatever, and whoever, can be looked after.
But, yes, we midwife. We bring out of the dark what, or better, who, needs to see the light and breathe the air and be free.