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meme 2As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Re: Sam Harris

Date: 2022-08-22 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
”These guys you mention, well, they have all assumed for themselves this romantic persona of being an intellectual knight who sallies forth to slay all these evil dragons, but really all they are doing is working to improve and maintain the system's efficient and productive functioning and meeting their own psychological needs for power, and to do something 'meaningful' while being admired and worshipped as self-sacrificing, noble, etc.

However, the system itself is 'demonic', and that means that it's paladins must tie themselves up in knots with this tortured and hypocritical 'logic' to maintain this illusion that they're actually these chivalrous and 'good' Arthurian knights of legend, instead of the bunch of twisted Nazgul that they've become in service of 'Sauron'.

Going with your examples, Harris (who I admit to not being familiar with) thinks it's okay to conspire and suppress the truth to get a globalist into power, Zizek and Chomsky are both happy to trample individuals' liberty and dignity with their support for enforcing the system's will with respect to health - and no doubt everything else that they think is in the systems'/collective interests as well.”

Very insightful.I can personally recognize all of this within myself. I was a pretty hardcore lefty a decade a go, untill I somehow ended up reading a book on Nietzsche and I realized what a hypocrite I really was. Luckily for the world I never held any real institutional power, so I couldn't do much damage to other people. My own inner life had become twisted like a snakes nest though. I did a lot of moral posturing and that's why I have such a distate for it now; It reminds me of myself.

Yeah...The system might really be demonic. You are propably right. It doesn't really allow for anything to be sacred anymore. It has no place for the human spirit either.

-Juhani

Re: Sam Harris

Date: 2022-08-22 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Speaking of evil systems, I was just dealing with the utility companies this morning... it turns out that in the city I just moved to, the power company decided sometime back that local offices were a thing of the past, and no longer needed. So they don't have one. It's also impossible to get a human being on the phone, and none of their website options would give me the letter I needed to take to the gas company, to get my gas turned on.

If this is how the internet makes everything better, I'll cheer when it dies.

Who was it who had the vision of the malevolent worldwide spiders? I think I've seen some of their shiny chitinous legs...

Re: Sam Harris

Date: 2022-08-23 07:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"I was a pretty hardcore lefty a decade a go, untill I somehow ended up reading a book on Nietzsche and I realized what a hypocrite I really was"

Yeah, I was a pretty hardcore lefty too, but I just couldn't handle all the cognitive dissonance that came with it.

I found myself increasingly at odds with the whole shemozzle, but I must. . . suppress. . . urge. . . to rant. . .on and on. . . about evils of neoliberalism, endless economic growth in a limited system, mammon worship, inappropriate and downright satanic technology, . . . etc, etc. . .

Phew, that was close :P

I will take this chance though to agree with you though that the system doesn't really allow things to be sacred, or have a place for the human spirit.

Instead, the system represents an absolute horror show of de-humanization and de-sacralization. And as we've all seen play out recently, that which de-sacralizes becomes the sacred. Hence the abominable new 'unchallengeable' religion of 'progress/scientism' that's worshipped by the authorities with its sacramental clotshots etc, etc.

I guess the same is probably of de-humanization, what with individuals being mandated to take shots against their will, and with the othering and segregation of clotshot refuseniks, but with pharama corporations (which are regarded as legal individuals/persons) being fawned over and protected from the repercussions of their actions and products. I mean, which of the two (real vs fictional legal persons) is getting treated more 'humanely' in that example!

And wasn't there some Google engineer (or whoever) the other day who said that the AI he was working on was now a person? How long will it take for the scientism faithful to start seriously talking about rights for machines?

It's all pretty loathsome really.

And here I was saying I wasn't going to rant!

I'm going to try to lighten things up a bit: It's a cold, grey and rainy day where I live, but I'm sitting in a warm and comfy chair, looking out my window at three gorgeous breeding pairs of flame-scarlet and green Australian King Parrots in the tree across the street.
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