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more people walkingThe pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, the rising toll of side effects from those drugs, and the whole cascading mess surrounding these things have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as "died suddenly" becomes a drumbeat rhythm of modern life, and the corporate media tries to find any reason for rising per capita death rates that doesn't begin with V, the floor is open for discussion.   
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Oi! That is a growing crowd of hikers! This is exciting!

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I found them a bit confusing, tbh - sturdy hiking shoes, but then just small handbags instead of backpacks? What kinda hike is that?

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permanent parenting COVID anxiety

Date: 2022-07-19 06:15 pm (UTC)
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Just visited my sister, who is pregnant with her first child, and simply obsessed with the COVID infection rate in her neighborhood, among her friends. She got boosted recently. Doesn't recognize the connection between everyone who is foxx'd and boosted getting infected over and over again (fortunately, none of these reinfections seem particularly serious, except in the elderly. So still the same risk profile, it seems.) Still afraid of her unborn child contracting the disease. When I pointed out that the number of children who've gotten seriously ill due to COVID is miniscule, especially compared with other childhood diseases we vaccinate for, she began speaking over me, cutting me off saying

"That's not true, THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!!!!"

Of course I dropped the subject, because it was upsetting her, but it's depressing. I'd sort of hoped the spell was waning, but it doesn't seem to be in her large, East Coast city.

On the other hand, even staff at my work (super liberal university--PMC hotbed, but in the relative countryside) have begun rolling their eyes and groaning at the rumors we might have to start masking again in the autumn. Fingers crossed that school districts etc. don't make the kid foxxes mandatory.

--Ms. Krieger

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I predict any school districts that do will see yet *another* mysterious decline in enrollment, as more families move elsewhere or find the resources to educate their kids outside the school system.

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I see a growing troop moving forward, two by two, with a yellow vest in the lead. I can get behind this.

Don’t forget, August 7th, alone together.

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Remind me what not to forget on August 7th?

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It's common in England!

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Since the last few weeks have seen discussion of Asherson's Syndrome, I'd like to note something important about it: Asherson's Syndrome is just the most severe case of a much broader class of dysfunction, called Antiphospholipid Syndrome. So at this point I think people are developing Antiphospholipid syndrome, rather than Asherson's Syndrome.

It may seem like a minor quibble, but it fits the data a lot better, and it has a much better prognosis (assuming, of course, that it doesn't progress to Asherson's Syndrome in a large number of people): there will be a higher death rate, a lot more illness, but nothing like the 50+% that comes from Asherson's Syndrome.

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Date: 2022-07-19 11:21 pm (UTC)
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Antiphospholipid syndrome is also pretty rare; this recent paper studying a white Australian population:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30957430/

estimates it at 2 new cases per 100,000 people per year and prevalence of 50 cases per 100,000 (once someone with the relevant antibodies has had a thrombosis or pregnancy loss, they're advised to be treated with anticoagulants for life). Another review in a non-Western population suggested incidence of 5 per 100,000. Moreover, most patients have APS secondary to lupus or similar conditions, making primary APS definitely rare. If covid or vaccination can cause it, the increased incidence should be significant. However, it is also the sort of rare diagnosis that could be missed as people who have thrombotic events, but no lupus, will often not be tested right away if at all.

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I haven't much to add so I'll set up part of a joke. I work for a company that is following CDC guidelines for masking. If the community levels are high we are supposed to wear masks, medium or low then no masks. In our area this has been waffling back and forth every few days for the past couple months. This has lead to essentially no one taking the requirement seriously.

Oh, the joke. At the end of obviously pointless meetings, a former coworker of mine would always comment, "Coffee break's over, back on your heads.". That's the punchline. You are welcome to look up the joke.

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i did. i like the joke, it lends itself to improvisation, much like the aristocrats.

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As a CANADIAN who grew up holidaying in BEAR COUNTRY in northern Saskatchewan and who traveled back and forth through the Canadian ROCKIES several times car camping and TENTING with my family during the 1960's and early 70's and with friends as an adult in the 80's and 90's I had multiple complex reactions to Wolfe's recent essay posted in the previous open post.

First I'm disappointed in Wolfe, who I previously thought had interesting things to say, clearly exposing herself as a tool of TPTB. In beating the drums of war and delineating the pivot to CHINA as the new enemy du jour she has completely destroyed any credibility as far as I'm concerned. Too bad Naomi. Sigh.

Second, I fear for my American friends and neighbours as I know they are susceptible to the martial drumbeat and easily drawn into the seduction of blaming their troubles on an external threat. Please don't fall for it. This horrific tragedy was brought to you by corporate America and complicit government and regulatory politicos. Whether Wolfe's allegations are true or not they remain culpable.

And finally I must make some comments on the story of her encounter with the bear. This story, if not entirely fictional, is largely a product of her fevered and Hollywood-ized imagination. I have experienced several BEAR encounters as a child and as an adult. Her story is complete nonsense. So first off: what the flaming-hot-place is she doing leaving bear accessible garbage around when she knew there were bears in the era for almost a year? She saw the mother and cubs and still had a garbage system in place that could attract the newly independent sub-adult? SHOULD WE LISTEN TO SOMEONE THIS STUPID? (Your call of course.)

Next, what kind of gun did she have that she thought might do anything OTHER than enrage a almost full grown bear? Get a grip Naomi. Also, why are you calling the police? Has fear addled your brain? And why aren't they referring you to Wildlife control or Parks Services or whatever the local equivalent is? There's got to be something of the kind if you are living in an area that has habituated bears.
And finally, the bit about the bear running around the house after her, if NOT completely fabricated, has to be because the JUVENILE bear was PLAYING with her. Don't get me wrong here. I'm not suggesting that playful bears aren't dangerous or that playing with bears is a good idea. But the bear WASN'T hunting her. If he was, it's certainly true, as she points out, that a bear that size could have been through the doors or the windows at anytime. The point is: the bear wasn't hunting her because BEARS DON'T DO THAT!!! It's nonsense.

Although comparing her fevered imaginings about bears to her remarks about China might be fruitful I will leave her 'case against China' to other wiser commenters.

I do want to make one final remark as a friend and a neighbour. The one analogy Wolfe didn't make is that falling for this new pivot to China would not be unlike threatening a bear with a BB gun. Maybe Wolfe should consider getting a cat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTRaJ0YNCCw

https://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/badass-cat-protects-his-home-from-giant-bear/
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I‘ve had some issues with this essay, too. Not from the bear-side of things (I can‘t add anything to that), but with regards to other things:

First, it‘s really well written. Great intro - getting people into an emotional state, right up into fear-inducing territory - before the actual story starts which is supposed to make people worried.

That‘s exactly the communication style of certain other actors during the past two years. I don‘t appreciate being played like that anymore…

Secondly, and I hope I‘m not ruffling too many feathers here ;-) , this essay is so typically US-American. I’ve read a lot of texts by really smart and independent thinkers from the US, but somehow the overwhelming majority of them can‘t even imagine that in some instances, the US might not be the center of the universe. Like, say, another country might make decisions based on considerations which have nothing to do with the US.

I.e. when she assumes that anything China does is only done to harm the US, that‘s just this US-centric view. She doesn’t even stop to consider that the Chinese government could have other reasons for their actions, e.g. internal things. Or that the US (and EU) can sabotage themselves just fine, without the rest of the world helping them along.

And finally, I‘ve got a few common sense issues with her conclusions:

If China would really be so set on killing the US (and European) economies, they‘d kill a sizeable part of their own economy right along with them.

This would most likely not go over very well with the Chinese populace. People tend to tolerate most leaders, as long as they can reasonably expect that the future will be brighter for them and their children. If the future starts to go down the drain, we might see pitchforks. I‘m not sure the Chinese leadership is so keen on this outcome.

Also, about the Chinese lab where the virus allegedly came from… there is this teeny-tiny issue of US involvement in that research there, remember? Somehow she seems to have forgotten all about this…

So, as I said, I have my issues with this essay - although I have to admit it‘s a great study in how to capture people‘s attention by telling a story… ;-)

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A tabletop exercise paper worth digging into

Date: 2022-07-19 07:46 pm (UTC)
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I'm curious what people here think of this. A tabletop scenario planning exercise was held in November of last year, related to future pandemic events. This was held by NTI and the Munich Security Conference. Not a Johns Hopkins paper for once! Here is the link:

https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf

The gist? A monkeypox outbreak occurs in May of 2022, which over the course of year, after a slow start, finally spirals into 250 million dead worldwide. Remember, this scenario was played out in 2021. They didn't pick, oh, say weaponized ebola, or somesuch for the scenario exercise. They chose monkeypox. Monkeypox ACTUALLY started hitting the news in...checks calendar...checks calendar again...MAY OF 2022, six months after the scenario planning event, right on time:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/situations/monkeypox-oubreak-2022

The recommendations coming out of this paper are what you'd expect: an enhanced global biosecurity apparatus with rapid response capability is required, faster novel vaccine development, better financing options for all of this.

This feels for all the world to be a possible "quick, vaxxes are killing people, bring in the monkeypox stories!" plan of action. Worth making note of is this: the scenario suggests January of 2023 as the point in time when serious lock-down style actions would take place, before the global death count finally balloons to a quarter billion people.

Should the much rumored and whispered "die off" actually start, I would fully expect a serious lockdown to occur, to keep people from trading stories, knowing what's happening in the world, joining in protests, and upsetting the apple-cart. A shock and awe campaign of sorts; divide people rapidly and forcefully. Like how they rolled up the Occupy camps in the end. I would also expect a much trained cyber-polygon episode to occur in conjunction. If you haven't been paying attention, various sites and sections of the internet have been flickering on and off for the past year. Feels like training to me.

Ok team: what are your thoughts on this paper? Do you think enough people have become aware of these games to make a Pandemic 2.0 storyline more difficult to sell? Has anyone done any divination around January of next year?

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The thing I find hinky about it is - this is a publicly available exercise. Why, if this was The Plan, would they publicize it exactly? And they haven't followed the playbook in here in response at all (I guess "yet").

It has a very, I dunno... MaddAddam from Oryx and Crake feel - like, if there were independent organizations with laboratory capabilities, and virus storage and engineering is rapidly reaching the ability of even small groups to do... wouldn't they consider it fairly funny? And would that explain why governments really don't seem to want to talk about it too much, and tamp down panic this time, in comparison... because everything they publicly model and do now could become something they're essentially telling someone to do?

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This happened at the Hoover Dam today

Date: 2022-07-19 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This happened at the Hoover Dam today. Stuxnet variant? Can this be lumped in with all the other things blowing up lately?

https://twitter.com/kristynashville/status/1549441916000825344

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From: [personal profile] tamanous2020
Could simply be another case of supply chain issues and delayed maintenance affecting another critical aspect of infrastructure.

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Mask anxiety class distinction

Date: 2022-07-19 08:05 pm (UTC)
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My favorite walk takes me through the most attractive part of town. Not coincidentally, this is also the wealthiest part of town, with the biggest and most beautiful houses, many qualifying as mansions, and the grandest trees in the best kept gardens.

What I’ve noticed lately is that nobody there seems too worried about the Coof. The kids are often out playing in the front yard, the adults often playing with them, not anxiously hovering over them. No one is wearing a mask. They seem quite relaxed.

If I walk three blocks downmarket, say past a nearby school or church, many of the PMCs there are masked up, and lots of the kids are too, producing a general air of anxiety. There is plenty of signage to make sure everyone stays anxious.

This seems consistent with last week’s story about the Armand Hammer museum: the flunkeys and middle managers who aspire to upper class status are fraught with concern to make sure that everyone is, like themselves, obedient to mask mandates, while the upper crust enjoy the privilege of masklessness. One may infer that the order to obedience emanates from the latter, but does not apply to them.

Those who are truly secure, whose personal wealth may be counted in the tens of millions of dollars or more, have no concern at all. Masking is for the lower orders.


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Date: 2022-07-19 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I call it the Dirty Elmo theory, after that Dirty Elmo parody video by "Dr Flurmgooglybean" mentioned in last week's forum.
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/189462.html?thread=32041750#cmt32041750

Not to overlook that swishy birthday on Martha's Vineyard where it was OK for so many people to gather because, as we learned on MSM, it was a "sophisticated, vaccinated" crowd.

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Date: 2022-07-19 08:14 pm (UTC)
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It looks like the eye has almost passed, and we should now be bracing for impact with the other side of the storm:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/news/canadas-travel-rules-have-changed-%e2%80%94-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ar-AAZKC6t?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggNb9

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Date: 2022-07-19 08:42 pm (UTC)
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It certainly looks like that just that the winds should be in reverse from the opposite side now

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Date: 2022-07-19 08:33 pm (UTC)
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Interesting and tragic:

https://etana.substack.com/p/a-peasants-revolt?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

It’s horrific to have to report on such a thing, but the owners said that their sales of typical caskets have increased by 20%, and since Dec 2021 their sales of small-size caskets (under 5 feet, i.e, for children) have increased by 400%.

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Date: 2022-07-19 08:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
I just found myself posting this general, but I think not entirely off-topic comment in another conversation, and since it seems to have suddenly crystallised as a "seed" thought, conceived from many of the conversations that I have had here, I thought I would post it, and see what others think:

"Issues, however wide, cannot be solved from the top down, only from the bottom up. All *effective* solutions to even the most global of problems are going to be personal and local.

"And this is simply because the bottom is composed of people who are in charge of themselves and able to direct their own actions from moment to moment, whereas the top is composed of people who only *think* they are in charge of *other* people (especially those at the bottom) and who only *think* they are able to direct the actions of *other* people (especially those at the bottom), but actually are not and cannot."
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Aye! I like it!

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Date: 2022-07-19 09:30 pm (UTC)
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Thank you, JMG, for offering and protecting this space, and thank you forumistas for being here, and for sharing your stories, questions, perspectives and information.

As this week opens, my main thought is, we're in a mind game: information, attention, emotions (especially anger, fear, grief, shame), how are you being played? Or not?

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Date: 2022-07-20 10:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
Yes.

Except, maybe not a "mind game" as much as a "mind war". The "sides" (in my mind) are Machine vs Nature (which I tend to think of, using its Latin etymology, as "all that is born"). We humans are being asked daily, hourly, to choose whether we wish to reside and habituate ourselves among the born (including bears/viruses/etc), or among the made (various techno-fixes, mergers of ourselves as cogs in a machine, extermination of all other "born" from our spheres of influence, etc).

I've carefully kept note of a comment made anonymously here a few months back - (paraphrase) "Remember that 99 out of every 100 stormtroopers you see are cardboard cutouts."

And it is worth remembering that much of what we are asked to fear really will not hurt us, unless we let it LOOM LARGE in our own minds - as intended. (Although, maybe that 1 out of 100 stormtroopers really will shoot to kill, so some discernment is also necessary).

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Letter to Jessica Rose

Date: 2022-07-19 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
QUITE A LETTER

"This is one of the emails I received the other day. I get hundreds daily, and I am hearing you all.
This particular note spoke loudly to me and this lovely person gave me permission to share her words."
by Jessica Rose
Jul 17, 2022

“Dear Jessica,

I have been following your work for some time now. I thank God for you and your truth telling during this dark day of medical experimentation.

I'm sending this email to you to add colour to your work analyzing data. I know the trends and the data are vitally important but so are anecdotes and stories.

I have a 3 year old daughter and gave birth to my son in November. He's almost 8 months now and, thank God, very healthy. I live in Fort Warrior.

[JUST FOR CONTEXT] I am unvaccinated (or un-injected is maybe what we should say). I knew I wanted to get pregnant in early 2021 and decided in advance that I wouldn't take the jab based on the precautionary principle. I tend to be more skeptical of doctors and pharma than most -- I favour nutrition and lifestyle interventions first but I know a lot of people feel "safe" going to their doctor for a pill/pharmaceutical that ails them. I kept a lot of my opinions to myself.

Fast forward to my first OB appointment in June of 2021. They were all over me about getting the COVID-19 jab at my appointment. I never brought it up, they did. The nurse practitioner fielding intake questions advised me of the following:

- the vaccine was highly recommended by the College of Obstetrics and Gynecology;

- the vaccine stays in the arm, and generates an immune response through antibodies that will also protect the baby (and do cross the placenta);

- pregnant women are at an especially high ICU risk and there have been bad outcomes;

- I'm at higher risk of infection because I have a child in daycare;

- they don't have "long-term" safety data but they have no reason to believe that the vaccine is unsafe;

- pregnant women have priority on the vaccine.

I am a rule-follower so even though I had made the decision in advance to not take this death jab, it was a rattling appointment. It honestly caused me so much stress throughout the pregnancy because I felt they made it seem like you were doing something wrong if you didn't get this death jab. Every doctors' appointment had me so stressed and worried. You have this guilt about not doing "as the doctor told" and then worrying that if you got COVID and something did happen, they'd all be rolling your eyes and treating you like shit. I gave birth in a mask, but thank God everything went well and my son is healthy.

Since these jabs rolled out, I know of one woman who had a stillbirth a month before her due date. Devastating. I also have a good friend whose baby is having many health problems. Her first baby was born the same time as my first and didn't have any of these problems. I notice too that doctors are not connecting the dots. One of the issues my friend's baby has is a heart murmur. . . "

... CONTINUE READING
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/this-is-one-of-the-emails-i-received

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Date: 2022-07-20 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
again again... the problem with these anecdotes, apart from the part where she gave birth in a mask, is that I could have told this exact same story in 2013 in the couple months after I gave birth, because generally my extended social network all had babies around the same time, and so, some of them had problems at the same time.

And that is the same treatment that mothers always get from doctors (and everyone else who isn't such a gosh-darn saint that they "kept a lot of opinions to [them]self")- it's just that for the first time ever, people who aren't pregnant actually care to hear from them because it helps to feed their own political agenda.

Except, in my case, the woman who had the stillbirth was at delivery; everything was normal up until the end.

I'd been so bitterly jealous of her, she lived in dorms with me first year, I only ever saw her on facebook anymore. She was one of those people who professional photographer facebooked her entire pregnancy (and engagement, and wedding, and...) with chirpy little updates about How! Feminine! Goddess! Energy! and Maternal! and Glowing! she was. And she wanted everyone to know she was doing Everything Right! She Ate So Well! And Took Care of Her Sacred Body! And I'd just gotten my son home from the NICU with a baby with an ileostomy after a month of hell, and an utterly failed birth plan, and other things during pregnancy that had seemed calculated to teach me the lesson that I was not someone who had ever been fit to do motherhood. I had stopped reading her updates months earlier because they say that sort of thing is bad for depression, but a mutual friend messaged me when the announcement and ask for privacy went up.

And I sat on the couch staring at my phone and trying not to wake the baby in my arms while I sobbed and sobbed. She did have a healthy baby a couple years later.

There are a lot of dots here, and I think that some people are going to be taking liberties with how they're connected, because they've never wanted to or bothered to pay attention to how life really is before. But some things stick in the memory once you've seen them before.

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Data points for July 2022

Date: 2022-07-19 09:56 pm (UTC)
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I commented a couple of weeks ago about my double vaccinated next door neighbor who came down with Covid and and developed Guillain Barre Syndrome. Turns out he was not just sick at home. He was in the hospital and is unable to walk on his own. His wife explained that was why she was installing grab bars all over the house -- so he can get around. He won't be able to go back to work. She was adamant that the vaccinated are the ones getting Covid repeatedly, along with other serious issues. She is unvaccinated, she got Covid when her husband did, but the only thing that happened to her is... she got well. All of this was not lost on her or the other neighbors in my mostly deep blue neighborhood.

I was with a relative last week that I see only once in a while. She watches MSNBC, is double vaccinated, and was a true Covidian believer. But following vaccination last year, her 22 years old son was in the ICU for three weeks with myocarditis. He may be be able to come off intravenous medication soon, but he will be on at least oral meds for the rest of his life. And the doctors are predicting a short one. She stunned me this week by mentioning that she is waiting for the lawsuit against J&J (that is the vaccine her son got). In all previous conversations, the vaccine was not allowed to be mentioned. She has other children, all vaccinated and they have not had life threatening adverse effects so far. Up until this point, I never heard her blame the vaccine for what happened to her son. But she sure does now. Slowly, with a lot of pain and maimed people, the realization is happening.

Physician sanctioned

Date: 2022-07-19 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A physician who got caught giving advice that didn't follow the official narrative was sanctioned by the medical association here in Manitoba, Canada

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/special/coronavirus/city-physician-censured-over-anti-vaccine-advise-to-youngster-576678762.html

The press report makes him look bad, but you know, he didn't kill his patient prescribing ivermectin

Raymond R

Naughty virus - just don't mention the vixens

Date: 2022-07-19 10:17 pm (UTC)
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'SIDE EFFECTS Urgent warning to anyone who’s had Covid over life-threatening complications that strike months later'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/19252306/urgent-warning-covid-life-threatening-complications/

* erm, just as long as it isn't the vixens. You know, the things a huge number of people have taken that directly injects the ability to make more of the now proved toxic spike than any normal infection does. *

Yep, it's another one of 'those' stories - this from the paper that gave you 'Give Britain a Booster' and 'Join the Sun's Jab Army'. This for something that has simultaneously in the media become a nothing-burger and a continued serious threat.

Anyone seen an elephant in this particular room?

Bad Cat makes the links between vixenation and continual infections today too btw. Looks pretty well evidenced:

'are covid vaccines the superspread vector for omicron?'

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-covid-vaccines-the-superspread


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I should add that right now all this feels personal as a good acquaintance of mine, active male late 60s, has just been struck down with a pulmonary embolism while on holiday in France. Triple jabbed and recovered from a mild bout of covid a couple of months ago. You tell me what might be going on.

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Gods and Monsters, part 3

Date: 2022-07-20 12:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
During a pleasantly cool shower yesterday, my mind wandered and I remembered a blog post by Rintrah from around Christmas time last year:

https://www.rintrah.nl/myth-exists-outside-of-time/

Rintrah describes an archetypal Earth goddess common to many cultures who eats her mates, and her prevalence when one takes hallucinogens.

Anyone who also reads Simon Sheridan's blog will immediately spot the similarity with the Devouring Mother archetype.

Now consider how popular 'micro-dosing' of LSD/mescaline/psilocybin has become, particularly in the tech-bro culture of silicon valley, as well as ayahuasca shamanic retreats. Imagine thousands of programmers, start-up CEOs, venture capitalist investors and possibly even all the way up to the Davos/WEF cool kids club making contact with what they thought were profound mystic visions, or improving their productivity/creativity and resolving childhood traumas, but which really were opening doorways for whispered thoughts from a ravenous goddess.

One of the commenters referred to her as the Rotting Goddess - many vax injuries are almost like being rotted from the inside.

There's a lot of symbolism to unpick as well, but just posting this here now as some food for thought...

Re: Gods and Monsters, part 3

Date: 2022-07-20 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
OK, tech-bro's.



It's fairly funny, because last night I totally lost it at Council - I'd warned my colleague not to do it, because I would NOT with that, but she did.

She brought forward for discussion a man's complaint about the fact that we hadn't torn down the Russian flag on our Sister Cities float at the Canada Day Parade, and so the Mayor from our US sister city had to be the hero and do it for us. He also opined that we needed to have tamped down on some guy who called out 'freedom!" from the crowd. Clearly an antivaxxer. With all those Canadian flags around, who could tell who was misusing them for Trucker propaganda? That sort of speech should not be allowed.

During the first lockdown, this man used to send us photographs of people he felt were standing too close on the beach.

She considers herself Council Mom - people used to call her that. She's very Compassionate, you know. She wanted to bring it up so that we could discuss the uses and abuses of symbols, and they ways they could be twisted, and How Bad that was.

I could not stop myself from saying that I was disgusted by the other Mayor's action, and invited everyone who believed it was our role to begin that sort of McCarthyism and Cold War re-enactment at the local level because of international intrigues in the day of propaganda warfare, and that the US was the one to teach us on such an occasion, to come see the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq I'd found.

One audience member did thank me - he was an older man, very rule-following, double vaccinated, of course; but laughed and said instead of waving the Canadian flag now, he'd just go get covid for a third time.

She was not amused.

BUT it did put me in mind about you know, she might have had a point about the way people interpret symbols.

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Had a chat with my vaxxed up mom earlier. She is pretty chill about my unvaxxed status, we've had a few uncomfortable conversations about it in the past but we understand each other now. A nearby urban area is considering mask mandates, so we talked about that a little. She casually mentioned how dangerous covid can be even long after one is no longer symptomatic. I recall that someone mentioned that on a forum they visit, most of the effects we are attributing to the vaxxes, the Narrative clingers are attributing to long covid. Apparently that view is mainstream enough that my mom has picked up on it. She lives her life entirely without the internet; she's glued to her TV though. I guess it's at the point where we are seeing the same things, but looking for different causes.

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Date: 2022-07-20 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for sharing this.

Since just about everyone has had covid, and been vaxxed, it's easy, and of course ever so much more appealing to the vaxxed, to ascribe long covid to covid, rather than the vaxxes. I have no doubt many many people will see it this way until Kingdom Come.

But of course, officially, the control group is no more, what we have now are just "Dirty Elmos," that is, bad selfish iresponsible uneducated unvaxxed people who should get vaxxed. No need to track their data.

Another Elmo (but Who Had a Nice Bath with Lavender Soap This Morning)


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Sun, Mercury, Pluto

Date: 2022-07-20 02:29 am (UTC)
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Has the following been noted yet? Mercury and the Sun have been nearly conjunct, and Pluto has been broadly in opposition to Mercury. I read the conjunct as meaning a heightened tendency to ego-level expression. That alone has a built-in propensity to bombast and garrulousness. But with Pluto in opposition, I read that as potentially adding a touch of exaggeration and of insistence on one's own stand. Unless one is in the habit of self-examination of one's own thoughts and of verbal restraint, that could easily lead to the soapbox and the high horse on top of the rambling. Might that help explain what people have been noticing lately, a "disruptive" energy in the commentary? It even seems to help explain Naomi Wolff's latest.

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Date: 2022-07-20 04:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For you, JMG, because we like you!


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Date: 2022-07-20 05:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG,

In light of the hypothesis that there is some entity or other driving the Covid madness, what do you make of the way that the mechanisms used to force the vaccine and insanity on everyone else seems to be being wound down? Does this suggest to you that whoever/whatever is behind this is done with the general public, and is now tightening the jaws around the True Believers?

Circling the wagons

Date: 2022-07-20 06:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Bofur, your comment near the end of the cycle in last week’s post, about putting yourself in others shoes, and leaders circling the wagons was a good one.

I think you are right. ‘Leaders’, and I use that term loosely, around the world are beginning to realize they were closer to pawns than the bishops, knights and rooks they imagined themselves to be. A lot of the WEF young leaders who have been spearheading the global totalitarian drive are looking around and seeing their compatriots hung out to dry. They are being knocked off the board quickly now. I bet they are starting to hear horror movie music in their heads, realizing the predicament they find themselves in. They figured they had a seat on the liferaft, as the elites sail away from the sinking ship, and they are looking at it sail away without them now, slowly turning around to see the pitchforks and torches encircle them, and close in. They loyally served a master who NEVER had their interests at heart, and is now tossing them aside without a second thought. The purpose has been served.

I’d be having a few sleepless, sweaty nights if I was them, a sacrificial class of chumps.

Murmuration

Re: Circling the wagons

Date: 2022-07-20 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/former-nyc-mayor-bill-de-blasio-quits-ny-congressional-race

This was good news to me but still want to see him pay for the suffering he caused.

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The Thing

Date: 2022-07-20 06:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I saw the long, fibrous, whitish clots embalmers such as Richard Hirschman have been finding in the vessels of COVID-vaccinated people referred to as "The Thing" here on this forum and I've been calling it that ever since.

There's a new interview with Richard Hirschman on Maria Zeee's channel where he describes his findings. Not for the faint of heart...
https://rumble.com/v1ctq5n-richard-hirschman-warning-extremely-graphic-structures-killing-injected-1-y.html

Re: The Thing

Date: 2022-07-20 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I second this recommendation. It's pretty gross to see the clots, but actually I'd say you don't need to see the pictures, just listen as if it were a podcast.

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