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walking toward the sunThe pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, the rising toll of side effects from those drugs, and the whole cascading mess surrounding these things have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as articles flood the media insisting that anything that doesn't begin with the letter V must be responsible for the sudden surge of people unexpectedly dropping dead, the floor is open for discussion.     
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Date: 2022-07-05 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just saw this clip on twitter warning about the "new improved" vaccines that can allegedly fight off Omicron. They are the same as the old vaccines but with an added "anti-omicron" formula so that means you get double the mRNA.

https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Arcuri/status/1544001755918262273

It seems to be a clip from this longer video.

https://rumble.com/v1ar9nc-friday-roundtable-exposing-the-fraud-with-edward-dowd.html

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Date: 2022-07-05 09:41 pm (UTC)
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It's becoming like the chemical additive section at the auto parts store now. 20% more horsepower or you money back! (some restrictions may apply)

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Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

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Clinging To The Narrative

Date: 2022-07-05 05:34 pm (UTC)
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It's so weird to watch.

About a week ago there was a 30th reunion at a local high school that turned into a Super Spreader event (21 cases and counting). Everyone is freaking out.

The facts are, as far as I can tell, everyone who caught it was foxed and many were boosted. One person reported some nasty symptoms, for many it was just a cold, and a lot of them tested positive but had no symptoms.

But of course, we are all supposed to BE VERY AFRAID! Get your booster! Maybe we should cancel all large gatherings?

I don't know how they can still cling to this narrative. It should be obvious now that the foxes do nothing to prevent getting the disease. I keep hearing that unfoxed are 4x (or 40x) more likely to get the cooties, but local news reports seem to show the opposite. It's so strange watching people twist themselves into pretzels trying to avoid seeing what is right in front of their eyes, but I can only hope the with each event a few more people will come to the light.

-Slink

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I'm running into the same conversations. Perhaps the laptop class wants to go back to working in jammies all day or wants an excuse to not pay $5 a gallon for gas to go to expected large functions. Covid is a very convenient excuse for a lot of things people really want to do.

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Dr. Peter S. McCullough's Testimony before the Texas State Senate
June 2022

On June 27, 2022 the Texas State Legislature's Committee on Health and Human Services held an important, indeed I would say historic hearing.

You can find the official minutes here:
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/minutes/pdf/C6102022062710001.PDF
Senator Lois Kolkhorst, Chair.
https://www.senate.texas.gov/member.php?d=18
Senator Charles Perry, Vice-chair
https://www.senate.texas.gov/member.php?d=28

The witness list, which includes Drs Robert Malone and Peter A. McCullough, is here:
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/witlistmtg/pdf/C6102022062710001.PDF


SOURCE OF VIDEO:
https://metatron.substack.com/p/dr-peter-mccullough-testifies-before

NOTE: Dr McCullough's own rumble channel also has this video, but it cuts off at the end of his formal testimony, leaving out the question from Senator Perry and Dr McCullough's (***rather jaw-dropping***) answer to that question.
https://rumble.com/v1acq3d-dr.-peter-mccullough-md-mph-jun-27-2022-texas-senate-hhs-testimony.html

NOTE FROM TRANSCRIBER: I believe this 21 minutes of video is historic, and worth attending to in detail. It is relatively short, and, from a medical doctor and leading researcher who concisely sums up the history and issues to date. Dr. Peter McCullough has testified before, and given many interviews, talks and more; what is unusual here is that at the end of June 2022 he is addressing an important legislative committee, and in the end, it becomes clear that, at least, the chairwoman and the vice-chair support him. The chairwoman, Senator Lois Kolkhorst, concludes by saying, "We heed your warnings."

If you can watch it, I would suggest that you note Dr. McCullough's gesticulations and tone of voice, which are measured but intense. Dr. McCullough is basically telling this Texas State Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, very diplomatically, that from 2020 to date the committee did not do its job, and, as a result, people died.

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Dr. Peter S. McCullough's Testimony before the Texas State Senate
June 2022

TRANSCRIPT, PART I
(00:00- 7:00 of approx 21 minutes)

DR PETER McCULLOUGH: Madam Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, I am probably well-known to the committee, I testified here on March 10th 2021. I'm a practicing internist and cardiologist in Dallas, Texas and I'm an expert on Covid-19. I have 56 peer-reviewed publications on the pandemic, particularly how to treat the infection, and over 770 overall publications in the National Library of Medicine, and well over a thousand overall medical communications. I have served on two dozen data safety monitoring boards for large pharmaceutical and device and in-vitro diagnostic studies, and I consider myself both an expert on Covid as well as drug and device and biological agent safety.

Here are my comments.

There has always been a duty to treat Covid-19.

It started with the very first case, as soon as we recognized that this was a potentially fatal infection. When a patient could have died of this infection, at that moment, and we understood it early, based on risk stratification, based on age, medical problems, and severity of symptoms upon presentation, there was a duty to treat that patient.

Period.

If a doctor did not treat that patient when that patient sought help, there was a duty to refer.

(1:30)
From the very beginning there was a community standard of care. From the very beginning. It evolves over time. In many situations like this, or in rare diseases, the community standard of care may be one doctor in that community who's going to take on the challenge of treating that patient, but that becomes the community standard of care.

Early, there was use of a variety of drugs that became standard of care as evidenced by surges in use of these drugs, and they included hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, prednisone, budesonide. There were giant surges in use of these drugs as evidence that these were outpatient evolving standard of care. Now there's a surge in use in Paxlovid and a minor surge in Molnupiravir. There has always been a community standard of care for early treatment.

Lesson learned from this committee: There has been 8 hours of testimony today. Not a single presenter could tell you what patients in these data sets received early treatment, and what was their outcomes. Not a single presenter knew who had received early treatment and what was the degree of complexity of that early treatment.

Lesson learned. Next pandemic get immediately an outpatient early treatment committee together. Their objective is to reduce the risk of hospitalization and death. That is the overall objective of this pandemic, keep people out of the hospital and keep them alive. If they can get through this illness at home, that was your mission from the very beginning on early treatment.

Fortunately, there's now been about 1400 studies, there have been hundreds and hundreds of randomized trials. And we know that sequenced, multi-drug therapy that addresses [??] inflammation or cytokine storm and thrombosis is the approach in handling this.

Dr. Proctor is here, he's published two very good studies, right from the state of Texas. Vladimir Zelenko in Monroe, New York, Dr. Raoult in France. All the data are cohesive, that the early protocols, the very early, had 85% reductions in the risk of hospitalization and death. Now with monoclonal antibodies, Paxlovid and others, I have testified under oath in the US Senate on January 24, 2022, based on my expert opinion, there is now a 95% risk reduction for death and hospitalization if early treatment is provided.

Conversely, I have reviewed hundreds if not thousands of reports of patients who were hospitalized and died. Hundreds if not thousands of reports. The outcome of hospitalization and death is a product of not receiving early treatment.

Whether someone's vaccinated or not, the vaccination is irrelevant because the vaccination is not a treatment. What's relevant is, was the patient treated before the hospital? In every single case, in every single patient outcome that I can see, the reason why they're in the hospital is they received either zero outpatient treatment or they received inadequate treatment that was received too late. So a committee like this, lesson learned, it's always going to be about treating the next infectious disease early.

(4:51)
In terms of in-patient care and the overall landscape of what happened, timeline, I think the charge of the committee is, pay attention to big developments!

Pay attention to these!

In May of 2020 there was a US Senate hearing on the use of corticosteroids. Pay attention to that! That was a big— you heard confusing testimony, there were some of these doctors didn't know if steroids worked or not! That was a landmark event. It was clear the steroids worked, and it should have rapidly been instituted as a standard of care in the hospital.

Another giant development was I had published the first overall treatment protocol paper in a major medical journal, August 7th of 2020, but rapidly after that, in September of 2020, there already is a home treatment guide by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. When there is a physician group that publishes a home treatment guide, pay attention to that!

Remember the Infectious Disease Society of America always had the first set of guidelines, and then the NIH. They still, to this day, do not have a comprehensive outpatient treatment guideline. That's the reason why AAPS filled in, Front Line Critical Care Network filled in, Truth for Health Foundation, Front Line Doctors and others. When other physician organizations based on consensus and data fill in the gaps, pay attention to that! Very, very important.

When an organization puts out a negative position on a drug, a negative position, this is really important, and it's a worldwide organization, you must pay attention to this. November of 2020 the World Health Organization says, stop using Remdesivir. Stop it. It's bad. It's doesn't work and it's leading to more deaths, it leads to kidney injury and liver injury. The immediate thing this committee should have done is, who's using Remdesivir in the state of Texas, and let's talk about it. Now whether or not the NIH disagrees with the WHO, that's got to be vetted, but the question should have been asked. We needed to reexamine this. Were Texans going to be hurt by this drug? The World Health Organization and the European Society of Critical Care said yes. And that went on under this committee's watch.

These are very, very important, lesson learned: Pay attention to the big developments.

(7:00)
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Dr. Peter S. McCullough's Testimony before the Texas State Senate
June 2022
https://metatron.substack.com/p/dr-peter-mccullough-testifies-before

TRANSCRIPT, PART 2
(7:01 - 13:20 of approx 21 minutes)

DR. PETER McCULLOUGH: My second set of comments. The Covid-19 vaccines.

The Covid-19 vaccines went through clinical trials and had two months of observation. The standard regulatory guidance was 24 months for live attenuated, killed, or antigen based vaccines.

These were genetic gene transfer technology vaccines, they're classified that by the FDA. They needed 5 years of observation. All that was thrown out. There was no carcinogenicity, no mutagenicity studies, there were no teratogenicity studies. So when they came out, they were, and still are today, emergency use authorized investigational, which means, the consent form says, we don't know if these work or not, and we don't know if they're safe long term. The consent form still says that.

Under your watch, vaccine mandates started happening in this state for investigational, experimental products.

We knew by January 22nd there was a problem because the US CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System had too many deaths that have already happened with the Covid-19 vaccine than they had from all the prior vaccines combined. January 22nd of 2021 the warning bells came off. And then nothing happened!

We knew on January 29, through Freedom of Information now, our US FDA and Center for Disease Control were supposed to be putting out monthly safety reports for America. No safety report.

Lesson learned from this committee: Get a vaccine safety committee together. Get them together and start having them meet. If you're not seeing safety being provided at a federal level— remember, it's safety, safety, safety. It would have been wonderful if these vaccines would have worked. But it was all about safety.

We now know through court-ordered documents, Freedom of Information documents, Pfizer knew about 1,223 deaths within 90 days of release of their vaccine. Pfizer knew about it, we don't know if the FDA knew about it. Nobody did anything. And the freight train continued.

Now, fast forward, as deaths started to occur, people started to get very, very uncomfortable. And you saw all the pushbacks, protests, all kinds of worldwide feelings of great vaccine hesitancy because people were dying shortly after the vaccine.

Papers were published. Fifty percent of the deaths occur within 48 hours, 80% within a week. We know the vaccines install the genetic material for the Wuhan spike protein that was manipulated in a biosecurity lab in Wuhan, China. There are now a thousand papers published on the spike protein and the vaccines. A thousand that deal with vaccine injuries, and they're well-characterized. And the FDA agrees, the vaccines cause blood clots, the vaccines cause heart damage, the vaccines cause neurologic damage, they also cause well-characterized immunologic and hematologic system damage.

This is in the peer-reviewed literature. This is not equivocal, this is not a subject of controversy or debate. It's in our literature. There are now brand new diseases named after Covid-19 vaccine injuries.

As of June 17th 2022 our CDC VAERS system has certified 13,388 Americans who have died with the vaccine. Now either they have taken it electively or they were forced into it. That's 13,388 people who have lost their lives prematurely due to these vaccines.

The vaccines qualify by the Bradford Hill criteria, which is an organized set of criteria on causality, they qualify as causing these deaths according to these epidemiologic criteria. I'm a trained epidemiologist, I am expert in applying these criteria. On a more probable than not basis, and almost certainly clear and convincing, that these vaccines are causing death.

This month the World Council for Health, which represents 70 bodies worldwide, has called for a global recall of all vaccines because worldwide 40,000 deaths that these safety data bases across the world, 40,000 in the big ones, VAERS, the Yellow Card system, the vigisafe, and the [?] system
40,000 deaths with the vaccines. Unacceptably high.

Typical standard for any biologic product is 50 deaths, pull it off the market, something's gone wrong. Fifty, not 40,000.

So when there is a global recall by an international organization, this committee ought to be having emergency meetings. What are we going to do? A worldwide body has called for these to pull off the market. They're still giving it. You just heard from the pharmacy director ahead of me, he's still giving them out. When there's a world-wide recall, there should be some committee meeting so you have it down. I mean, you can tell, something is going wrong here, that we're in trouble in terms of vaccine safety.

Dr. Malone has covered vaccine efficacy, which has largely waned.
I will just tell you, that the CDC told us, as of December 10th 2021, with the omicron strain, 79% of people with omicron were fully vaccinated. That is prima facie evidence that the vaccines have completely failed against the omicron variant. It's inverted now, the vast majority of people who are sick with Covid-19 and in the hospitals worldwide with the omicron variant are fully vaccinated.

My final set of points—

SENATOR LOIS KOLKHORST (CHAIR): I have a quick question for you about, when you talk about the worldwide reports and the worldwide rejection, global recall. Is Congress doing anything about it?

DR PETER McCULLOUGH: To my knowledge, no US body has reacted to this worldwide call at all. So it's not, it's obviously a failure at the state level, and at the national level. It's essentially an oblivion. It's an oblivion.

Final set of comments. Physician censorship and reprisal.

(13:20)
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Dr. Peter S. McCullough's Testimony before the Texas State Senate
June 2022
https://metatron.substack.com/p/dr-peter-mccullough-testifies-before

TRANSCRIPT, PART 3
(13:10 - 21:11)

DR. PETER McCULLOUGH: Final set of comments. Physician censorship and reprisal.

It is clear now that in the area of Covid that it's open season for censorship and reprisal, not just of physicians, but of nurses and patients and family members and others. And the censorship is because there is a global effort to mass vaccinate the population every six months. And anything that would deter from that is going to be censored.

So if a family member has lost a loved one after the vaccine, that event, if it's written somewhere, would have you censored.

We have widespread censorship in the medical literature now, in social media, and even in oral presentations.

I presented here on May 10th 2021. Five statements that I made here under oath are now subject of censorship and professional reprisal by the American Board of Internal Medicine. Every single statement I made just in my written remarks and my prepared remarks is cited.

The American Board of Internal Medicine, the Texas Medical Board, they don't have a monopoly on the truth.
No one holds medical truth. There are always two points of view on everything, or more.

And so Senator Johnson has stepped in and called the American Board of Internal Medicine out to have a roundtable discussion on what's going on now is a giant sweep through the federation of medical boards through the American Board of Internal Medicine, American Board of Family Medicine, etcetera, and to have an open conversation. They have not responded, in fact they have doubled-down and said they're joining forces with the American Medical Association, again, in an effort to inflict reprisal on physicians as myself who are attempting to help patients through Covid-19 respond to the pandemic in terms of our patient care, our scholarship and our research, and also give patients a fair appraisal on a brand new set of experimental genetic vaccines which, for some patients, now represents a mortal threat to them. And we must have certainly a conversation about the risks and benefits.

So I think right now the most important thing that this committee can do, is this committee probably ought to have a working group on censorship and reprisal at the professional level. Doctors, nurses, patients, who under the watch of the HHS is actually incurring their constitutional rights being stripped away from free speech? What is going on in this state to actually impair medical progress?

Remember medical progress will not happen unless there is a roundtable discussion on something. What several speakers, a few minutes ago, he talked about a conversation between some doctors and a doctor who wanted to prescribe ivermectin. That conversation to me didn't seem to me didn't seem very fair balanced. It seemed like a disciplinary conversation. There is no disciplinary conversations in a brand new, novel corona virus. This is all about getting the patient better.

The other thing I heard in that conversation is a very, very important act of censorship or a violation of medical ethics. Dr. Bob Hall presented a case where a family member wanted the discussion about ivermectin of a patient in the hospital. There is a principle of medical ethics called shared decision making. When you're a patient in the hospital, you actually have a right to discuss what you want to have happen with your body. If you're taking a medicine as an outpatient, and you want to take that as an inpatient, that's called medication reconciliation. You have that full right to do so. No doctor can lord over you and say, no, you can't have that medication. If you've had a fair, balanced discussion, and drugs like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine are supported by hundreds and hundred of clinical trials. They're in dozens of government guidelines elsewhere in the world as first line therapy. Any American, any Texan, has the right to receive these drugs in the hospital when they engage in a discussion with their doctor. And under no circumstances should any doctor refuse a patient shared decision making and their own personal autonomy. It's unethical, it's immoral, and from a clinical perspective, it's illegal. And don't let it happen on your watch.

Those are my comments.

SENATOR LOIS KOLKHORST, CHAIR: Thank you, doctor. Senator Perry, I think had a—?

SENATOR CHARLES PERRY: So I guess it comes as some great shock and revelation to you, not many of my constituents sit around and ponder the latest published article from medical experts around the world or, you know, obviously the media is not your voice. So barring Texas having a CDC, someone on the ground here at the state level, their sole job is to basically do what you suggest we should be doing, I don't know that I disagree with you, it's almost impossible with the narrative that you get from media, the narrative you get from Congress, the narrative you get from CDC, so I don't know that there's anything we can do other than put somebody on that job, specifically. Can't be part-time legislators, right? We're not here. We hear things, we see things, we don't have the time to pursue it, so we need an expert, someone in your area, that the state puts a dog on it, so to speak, and stay on it.

But I'm going to ask the same question I think I asked Dr. Malone earlier. Is it just money?

I mean, clearly transparency or lack thereof has given way to a legitimate concern of trust and credibility with the people that used to, or at least we believed were best interest of public health. That's no longer the case. I think the [?] is correct.

Do you have an observation of why? Is it sheerly the money that's involved in the process? I mean, why are we as a nation slash world going down this path? Six— everybody needs to be vaccinated twice a year, you make that statement. Is it the money?

DR PETER McCULLOUGH: With no attention to potential harms.

SENATOR CHARLES PERRY: But is it the money? I mean, what is your honest assessment? I don't want a long—

DR PETER McCULLOUGH: I'm going to tell you. I had, I attended a scientific meeting in Washington, and the National Institutes of Health members were there,
many of the people, Scott Atlas, who was formerly in the White House was there, Martin Kulldorff, Jay Bhattacharya who's one of the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, myself, Marty Makary from Johns Hopkins, and for the first time in a scientific meeting in my life, I'm at my fourth decade of doing this, I heard the word "evil."

Because it's worldwide, it's in the minds of people all over the world at the same time, from the very beginning of the pandemic, to do harm to other people. Whether it's committing euthanasia in the Netherlands, to denying treatment in Central Africa, to pharmacists in Texas not dispensing medications, the number of examples is endless, it's endless, and it's inexplicable. I don't know the answer. I've had that question from Tucker Carlson to Joe Rogan and honestly, I wish I knew, about whatever it is, it's very, very bad.

SENATOR CHARLES PERRY: I believe it's true. I think it's just a sign of the times. But thank you.

SENATOR LOIS KOLKHORST, CHAIR: Thank you, Dr. McCullough. If there are no other questions, we want to thank you for now appearing before our committee twice. We heed your warnings. Thank you.

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Thank you for taking the time to transcribe this important video. It would have been a shame if those who do not 'do' video would have been forced to miss out on Dr. McCullough's amazing testimony! The guy's a lion!

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UK Government disintegrates

Date: 2022-07-05 05:43 pm (UTC)
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Not strictly speaking Covid related, but these people saw us through the pandemic for ill (gotten gains) or good, and they won't be seeing us through the next bit:

'Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Health Secretary Sajid Javid quit Boris Johnson's cabinet amid a row over the handling of misconduct claims against ex-Deputy Chief Whip Chris Pincher'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657

It even appears Larry the 'number 10 cat' has made his feelings for PM Johnson (but for how long?) known too. ;-)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1544370237432381441

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Looks like a slow motion disintegration though - Boris Johnson will not go willingly. Gonna be an interesting little while as the 'polycrisis' (thanks anonymous for posting) grows.

p s. Here's Bad Cat's take on this. He's getting his popcorn ...
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/uk-cabinet-members-resigning-in-disgust
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Seattle and PNW ecosophian folk

Date: 2022-07-05 05:47 pm (UTC)
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At the middle of the pandemic, when it was not much harder than now to meet with people whose brains hadn't been eaten up by the Woke Bug of Death it was suggested in these Semi Open Posts that people get together and chat in person. Seattle and sourroundings was one of such places. I remember there were at least some people interested in meeting.

I got back to the States from my longer than planed stay with family yesterday and after praying to Columbia for the health and prosperity of the place
that I've call home for the past 4 years I have opened up a space over at my DW journal to chat and get something going if there is enough interest.

For security reasons no anonymous comments please, no need for an account but sign with your name or handle otherwise you'll be ignored.

Let's get things rolling!

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Re: Seattle and PNW ecosophian folk

Date: 2022-07-05 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks, open space-- "the Woke Bug of Death" LoL! I'm gonna steal that.

Glad to see you are hosting a space. I know many will appreciate it.

Soy anónimo y por el momento así me quedo

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Date: 2022-07-05 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just reread one of JMG's essays and the paragraph below struck me. I would go even further - I believe that the corporate and imperial leaders think of the people as tools to be tossed aside too.

I think the whole essay is worth rereading because I see a lot people still attaching emotions to words (reification). Just think about the emotional load (positive or negative) of the word "Pfizer". In reality, what matters are the people behind the name, and it's hard to convince me that the so-called scientists ignoring dead infants (https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/is-pfizer-suppressing-vaccine-adverse) are NOT psychopaths.

"Jones was astonished to find that the vast corporate structures against which he and many other progressives had been campaigning so hard — the WTO, the World Bank, and so on — were treated, by the people who run them, as mere tools to be used or tossed aside at will."
https://www.ecosophia.net/getting-beyond-narratives/

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Date: 2022-07-05 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Work chat turned to latest covid wave.

"Oh these people are going to these festivals and not wearing masks"

"The infection rate is just rising"

"This BA5 is so bad. They need to shut everything down again"

And I could feel rage begin to bubble inside me. Thinking then on the OSA lessons and what the bubbling rage was trying to tell me.....I got overwhelmed with grief. These people standing in front of me are gone. Just mentally, spiritually, and physically GONE. There is nothing there anymore but a meat suit that repeats what it hears and sees and wants rewarded for its obedience.

The mass death this forum talks about has already happened. Expect they aren't 6 feet under the ground, they are zombies. The world is full of zombies.

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Date: 2022-07-05 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, many of us are living in Zombielandia. That includes Yours Truly.

Hang tough, have heart!

Many people who are not zombies are counting on you!

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Thanks MItt!

Date: 2022-07-05 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was blown away: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/mitt-romney-republican-denial-biden-election/661468/

Mitt Romney says America is in denial about some important stuff. Ya don't say!

>When entire countries fail to confront serious challenges, it doesn't end well. During the past half century, we Americans have lived in a very forgiving time, and seeing the world through rose-colored glasses had limited consequences. The climate was stable, our economy dwarfed the competition, democracy was on the rise, and our military strength made the U.S. the sole global hyperpower. Today, every one of those things has changed. If we continue to ignore the real threats we face, America will inevitably suffer serious consequences.

A paragraph right out of a JMG post.

I don't suspect Mitt has any productive ideas for how to confront said challenges. But isn't it a breath of fresh air that the problems are even being mentioned in print? What next? Confronting the limits of pharmacological research...?

Not holding my breathe :)

Re: Thanks MItt!

Date: 2022-07-05 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Mitt still trying to be the moderate reasonable easy going choice after all these years....impressive how he can remain so out of touch with reality for so long.

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Date: 2022-07-05 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In Finland there have been these murmurs about excess deaths for a while now, but the mainstream political parties have steered clear of the subject. That is untill now;
A vice speaker of the ”conservative party” and a member of the ”healthcare commitee” Pia Kauma has noticed that we have more excess deaths and more rona deaths than our neighbour Sweden. That is alarming since Sweden has a lot larger population. In fact we have more excess deaths than ever since the they started keeping records in the 1990's. Kauma wants this phenomenon investigated. ...And of course she is asking why the government is not giving us fourth shots already...Another prominent politician was demanding more jabs as well.

It is quite astonishing that people are not able to put 2 and 2 together. ”More vixxens, more illness...hmm Oh, I know! We need more vixxens!” It's like the Homer Simpson strategy:” If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't stupidity get us out of it?”

Later there was a headline in the news where government was giving some type of explenation as to why they aren't jabbing people for the fourth time already. I didn't bother to read the article, but the take away is that the deaths are piling up here and people still have one track mind: Jab, jab, jab! Nato! Nato! Nato!

I'll add my own speculation here: I suspect that some people within the government have figured out that the vixxens do nothing and that they may even be harmful. So they are not as enthusiastic about the vixxens as before but they will be damned before they admit it in public. If that was to come out, it would be one epic scandal. So we are being offered all manner of diversions instead. If I recall, our celebrity prime minister has caught rona twice now as well. So people still keep getting sick with rona and now there is no way out it. Except maybe a war?

Last bit of news is that apparently the eggheads here have been developing some kind of nasal spray rona vixxen. The trials have been postponed by 6 months. They hope that this new miracle elixir can defeat omicron variants as well. I think we should test this miracle vixxen on the politicians first.

-Juhani

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Date: 2022-07-05 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Methinks a nasal vaxx would be a gee-whiz moneylandering thing with minimal protests because the gov't could buy loads of the vaxxes, mail them free to everyone, and then everyone, grumbling maybe a little bit under their breath, could simply chuck it in the trash. And go back to watching TV.

But of course they're more likely to continue the BDSM show by making people go to a vaxx center and have some masked person stick it up their nose for a QR code.

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On internet Djinn

Date: 2022-07-05 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A quick one, on internet djinn. Solving complex mathematical problems using step-by-step natural language reasoning is in the process of falling to the AI:

https://twitter.com/alewkowycz/status/1542559176483823622

Murmuration

Re: On internet Djinn

Date: 2022-07-05 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Mathematical reasoning (starting from axioms and applying logical rules) is actually very easy to do in the computers (I wouldn't call that AI).

This has been done for decades and the results were not exciting - basically you have a path going randomly through the mathematical landscape. You can prove an infinity of useless theorems that way. It turns out that people use something else (intuition?) to determine the target and then apply logic to prove it.

In this case (solving school math) the target is known so the computers can easily do it. The reason this is news is that finally the computers are good enough at understanding human language to convert it into mathematical symbols. Given that the language used in school math is very restricted, I would not consider this a breakthrough. And I think https://www.wolframalpha.com/ already does this, more or less.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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The open thread archives bellow (.epub and html, and for Vol. 2 text too)

Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
Volume 1 - .html archive
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Volume 2 (everything after 1st of March and a few weeks before to makean overlap in the two volumes and because those threads are important)

Volume 2 - .html archive
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The mother of all gets 188888

Date: 2022-07-05 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

This post has the 188888 get which is pretty low probability:
this should put the skeptics to rest
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/188888.html

188888 id of the post

Date: 2022-07-05 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
188888 id of the post

for those who thing so what, take this

there are only 7 posibilities for a get like this on the whole DW site,

for example https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/177777.html doesn't even exist nor the other digits from 0-6, so basically as far as I looked this post is the only one with this king of get on the DW site

Re: 188888 id of the post

Date: 2022-07-06 05:28 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Given that the post IDs seems to be both incremental and have a random part this is an extreme rare occurance, even the comment IDs there where a few gets with 5 digits out of aprox 30000 comments,

but to make a get of 5 digits out of just 49 posts and that post to be the only possible get at DW that is probabilistically in the same boat with winning the lottery. As I am writing this I realise that 6 out of 49 is the Romanian lottery
https://www.loto.ro/loto-new/newLotoSiteNexioFinalVersion/web/app2.php/jocuri/649_si_noroc/rezultate_extragere.html

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Date: 2022-07-05 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here is an excellent interview with
Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and Viviane Fischer.

https://rumble.com/v1b1zyq-dr.-reiner-fuellmich-update-on-actual-trials-for-crimes-against-humanity.html

Thankyou for this space, JMG..
and it is nice to see contemplative this
week. beats bleak!

A new term arrives on scene: Polycrisis

Date: 2022-07-05 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A new term has arrived on scene, as the various covid responses bleed into the other crisis of the day, and boundaries blur: Polycrisis.

A good read rooted in Catabolic collapse, or the long emergency:

https://shadowrunners.substack.com/p/wtos-polycrisis-famine-war-and-economic

Re: A new term arrives on scene: Polycrisis

Date: 2022-07-05 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hunter S Thompson's phrase for such a confluence of unfortunate events (translated for polite company) was "shale-rain."

;-)

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Hot Tamale List *** Updated Juny 5, 2022 ***

Date: 2022-07-05 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
COBALT FRAGRANT AARDONYX'S
HOT-TAMALE LIST: POP ONE & WHIRL ON DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE

*** Updated July 5, 2022 ***

This list is not intended to include everything plus the proverbial kitchen sink, but rather, those few brief and authoritative sources that might lever open a mind to consider that there is something dangerously wrong with the official "narrative" about the covid pandemic and covid "vaccines." Because of censorship and shadow-banning, many of these links are difficult or almost impossible to find on an Internet search. Please make suggestions or, better yet, make your own list, and if you feel so moved as to post it, I would love to see it here.


> START HERE.
IF YOU HAVE TAKEN AN INJECTION, KNOW THAT THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH
Read: https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/a-practical-approach-to-keeping-healthy-after-your-covid-19-jab/
Read: https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/

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DID YOU ASSUME YOU'VE BEEN GETTING "ALL THE NEWS" FROM "THE NEWS"?
Read: "How Fact-Finding Fauci Led To My Cancellation At Forbes"
by Adam Andrzejewski, Mar 9, 2022
https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/factfindingfaucicanceledforbes

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DID YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS "NO ALTERNATIVE" TO EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZED "VACCINATIONS"?
Watch: "Letter to Andrew Hill"
https://www.oraclefilms.com/alettertoandrewhill

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DID YOU BELIEVE THAT "EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION" IS THE SAME AS "APPROVED," AND THAT TO SAY THE PFIZER AND MODERNA INJECTIONS ARE "EXPERIMENTAL" IS JUST "MISINFORMATION"?

Read: The US government webpage explaining Emergency Use Authorization.
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization
If you read it carefully you will find that by taking a covid "vaccine" you are in fact participating in a phase 3 trial, that is, an experiment.

Read: The US government webpage about the clinical trials (in other words, experiments), which are anticipated to conclude in March of 2023:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04848584

Read: The Australian government's page, which also clearly states that the vaccines are provisional.
https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine-provisional-determinations

Read: The Pfizer-Bionech and Moderna Covid-19 vaccines package inserts:
https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471
https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=e0651c7a-2fe2-459d-a766-0d59e919f058

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DID YOU ASSUME THAT CALLING THE MRNA "VACCINES" "GENE THERAPY" WAS JUST "MISINFORMATION"?
Watch: Stefan Oelrich, head of Bayer's Pharmaceutical Department, speaking at the World Health Summit 2021, lays it out plain and simple (40 seconds):
https://rumble.com/vwg9b5-head-of-pharma-at-bayer-admits-that-the-mrna-vaccines-are-gene-therapy.html

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ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE DEFINITION OF "VACCINE" WAS CHANGED SO THAT THE MRNA GENE THERAPIES COULD BE OFFERED TO THE PUBLIC AS "VACCINES"?

The CDC's definition of "vaccine" as of Sept 21, 2021: "A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases."
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
PS Dr Byram W. Bridle, Associate Professor of Viral Immunology in the Department of Pathobiology at the University of Guelph, explains how, by this defintion, your yogurt is now a "vaccine"
https://viralimmunologist.substack.com/p/i-just-had-four-vaccine-doses )

The CDC's definition of "vaccine" on Aug 26, 2021 (and prior): "A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease."
Source: screenshot of CDC page from the "wayback machine"
https://web.archive.org/web/20210826113846/https:/www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm


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ASSUMING YOU DID NOT SLEEP THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL BIOLOGY, DID YOU NOT FIND IT, UM, REALLY ODD THAT IN MANY COUNTRIES PEOPLE WHO HAD RECOVERED FROM COVID (AND SO HAD ANTIBODIES TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST COVID) WERE NONETHELESS ENCOURAGED, AND EVEN MANDATED TO TAKE THE "VACCINES"?

Read: "CDC Admits Crushing Rights of Naturally Immune Without Proof They Transmit the Virus"
by Aaron Siri, Nov 11, 2021
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/cdc-admits-crushing-rights-of-naturally

Read: "Fauci Finally Admits Natural Immunity"
by Jeffrey A. Tucker, March 25, 2022
https://brownstone.org/articles/fauci-finally-admits-natural-immunity/

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DID YOU BELIEVE THAT THE "VACCINES" ARE SAFE?

Ask yourself: How could that be known at the time the vaccines were introduced, given that they were made available under Emergency Use Authorization (not having gone through the normal years-long testing and approval process)?

See: The latest VAERS data. VAERS is the official US government Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html
(Note: https://openvaers.com/covid-data provides VAERS data in a more reader friendly presentation)

Read: Go to www.realnotrare.com, click on "Real Stories"

Watch: The Testimonies Project (Israel) https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/

Read: As of May 2022 there is a substantial bibliography of peer-reviewed scientific papers on adverse reactions (deaths and injuries)
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/vaccine-adverse-reaction-articles

Watch: "Dr. John Campbell "The Pfizer Documents"
March 9, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOD9drZasM


PS You can view the Pfizer documents, which Pfizer wanted to withhold for 75 years (that is not a typo), and the story of how a US court ordered their release under a Freedom of Information Act request, for yourself at this link:
https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents

The list of Adverse Events of Special Interest begin on page 30 of the 5.3.6 document which you can view here:
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

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DID YOU BELIEVE THAT THE "VACCINES" ARE EFFECTIVE?

Count the twice-injected and "boosted" people you personally know who have suffered post-injection covid infections.

Walgreens, a US pharmacy chain which administers covid vaccinations nationwide, posts its data every week.
https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp
On page 3 you will find "Positivity Rate by Vaccination Status"

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DID YOU NOT REALIZE THAT WE NOW HAVE A FAR MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM THAN A HEALTH CRISIS?
Watch and/or read: "Do Not Give Up Your Rights: Julie Ponesse's Remarkable Speech"
Text also provided on the website.
Nov 3, 2021
https://brownstone.org/articles/do-not-give-up-your-rights-dr-julie-ponesses-remarkable-speech/

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IF YOU'RE "ON THE BUS," ARE YOU SURE IT'S NOT GOING WHERE YOU REALLY, TRULY WOULD NOT WANT TO GO?
Watch: "Hitler's Doctor versus Hippocrates"
Dr. Lee Merritt's talk as incoming president of the Association of Americans Physicians and Surgeons on Dr Karl Brandt, the surgeon who was condemned to death in the Nuremberg Trials.
Feb 2011-- that date is not a typo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25yIRNGkvqA

Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Events

Date: 2022-07-05 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just posted: various: brain fog, numbness, trouble walking, hyperactivity, itching, stabbing pains, and other symptoms

Dolores Castillo
First Dose of AstraZeneca on 05/25/21 Lot #NF0007
Second Dose of AstraZeneca on 07/23/21 Lot #NJ0239
Mexico
49 yrs old

EXCERPT:

Q: Share your experience with any medical care and any diagnoses you have received:
First a GP told me I was anxious, then a cardiologist said I had reflux. The Neurologist hasn’t given me a diagnosis. He thinks the hernia in my neck plays a part. The Rheumatologist says I have no autoimmune disease, only osteoarthritis. The Psychiatrist says I’m ok.

Q: Was your reaction reported, and what was the response?
It hasn’t been reported, because in my country it's a bit hard to do.


READ THE COMPLETE Q & A:
https://www.realnotrare.com/post/dolores-castillo

Re: Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Events

Date: 2022-07-06 07:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't mean to make light of this excerpt (especially as I am vix-injured myself and understand what a nightmare of life-ruining evil these idiotic vixens are), but the list of doctor reactions Ms. Castillo received sounds like the lyrics to a blues song to me.

I took some AstraZeneca,
And had a bad reaction,
So I saw my general practioner,
Who said I had anxiety,
Then I saw my cardioligist,
Who said I had the reflux,
Then I saw a top neurologist,
Who said my neck has got a hernia,
So I went down to a rheumatologist,
Who said I just got the osteoarthritis,
But my psychiatrist . . .
My psychiatrist says that I am A OK
But I don't feel very good at all,
'Cause I got the doctor,
The doctor vax in nation gaslighting blues . . .

Sing it loud; I've been there, too!


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LoL du Jour "My Body, My Choice"

Date: 2022-07-05 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hat tip to journalist (one of few remaining) Mark Crispin Miller
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/there-are-many-things-we-might-call

a screenshot of an announcement, which text reads

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Official "My Body My Choice" protests are scheduled for tonight all across the nation. Find the nearest protest in your city!

*Vaccination status check required for admission to the protest

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I read recently that Rage Against the Machine requires proof of vaccination for its concerts. This caused me to look up Henry Rollins, punk rock legend - it looks like he is a full-throated vaccine advocate.

I continue to be stunned at the complete collapse of the antiestablishment left. And I don't think they see it - in their own minds, they're still the French Resistance putting up a plucky fight against the Germans.

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Rage For the Machine

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Never fully vaxxed

Date: 2022-07-05 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/canadas-health-minister-you-will-never-be-fully-vaxxed

Canada's Health Minister: "You Will Never Be Fully-Vaxxed"
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Canadians will be required to get a Covid shot every nine months for the foreseeable future, says Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos. Previous definitions of “fully vaccinated” made no sense, he told reporters.

“Nine months is very clear and will help people understand why ‘up to date’ is the right way to think about vaccination now,” said Duclos.

“‘Fully vaccinated’ makes no sense now. It’s about ‘up to date.’ So am I up to date in my vaccination? Have I received a vaccination in the last nine months?”

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Canadian crew: can you get the truckers on this guy already? :D

Murmuration

Re: Never fully vaxxed

Date: 2022-07-06 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
I wonder if that has anything to do with this:

"Canada is about to toss more than half of its doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine because it couldn't find any takers for it either at home or abroad.

It also has yet to explain how it plans to manage millions of doses of both Novavax and Medicago vaccines that it bought but is unlikely to use itself."

We tried to donate them to poor countries after they all decided AZ (and only AZ) caused bloodclots, but for some reason that made the poor people suspicious!

"Adam Houston, medical policy and advocacy officer for Doctors Without Borders in Canada, said that 75 per cent of the AstraZeneca doses Canada promised to donate are going to be thrown out "is extremely disappointing."

Canada has also promised to donate 10 million doses each of Johnson & Johnson and Moderna. The former has had production issues, and Canada hasn't donated any of that vaccine. It donated 6.1 million doses of Moderna to four countries between December and June, but another 1.2 million doses of Moderna expired and have been thrown out in Canada."

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh really hard:

"Donating Medicago is more complex because the World Health Organization won't approve it for use by COVAX due to Medicago's financial ties to tobacco giant Philip Morris."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newscanada/more-than-half-of-canada-s-astrazeneca-vaccine-doses-expired-will-be-thrown-out/ar-AAZdYBq

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Never seen anything like it

Date: 2022-07-05 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] revert2mean
Hi JMG and guys,

It's winter here in Canberra, probably the coldest winter I can remember. I've related on here how I had to change jobs to remain un-foxinated, and now I work in an office. There are three of us un-foxinated on the floor that I know of. All others tend to be jabbed and wear masks because, well, it's Canberra. Jabs not compulsory for our job but constant attempts to claim masks are "a rule" even though no legislation supports that.

Well, every morning the floor-runners (not their real titles) convene right next to my desk, in masks, and (not talking to me) list the ill and infirm and how many people won't be working, how many are isolating and working from home, how many are really ill and bed-ridden ... and it's just extraordinary. Never ever in my life heard of so much flu, so many mysterious debilitating fevers in young healthy people, and of course repeated bouts of covid.

Also the public schools keep closing classes and sending kids home. Finally admitted it's because the level of sick leave among the staff is three times the normal level.

And, of course, me. In there every day, getting breathed on, perfectly well. And when the floor runners are doing their daily tally, of course I can't resist talking to my co-workers, loudly, and saying, "Well, if they can ever get up from their sick beds I hope they run out and get a couple more boosters and double-mask, because it really works so well. Funny. I always had the idea that if you were vaccinated that meant you weren't supposed to get the thing, not that you got it multiple times ..."

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Date: 2022-07-06 03:55 am (UTC)
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Wow! Three unvaxxed, in one place, in Canberra! I'm a bit surprised given the stupendous vax take up rate here.

And yes, COVID is absolutely everywhere here atm - in spite of, or more likely because of, our ridiculously high vax rate.

I'm another Canberran - I'm unvaxxed and currently have COVID (second day). It's not a pleasant disease. Fever, dizzy spells, cough (the beginnings of some chunky lung butter), scratchy throat, the runs, and very, very achy.

I have to say that I don't like the idea of catching COVID repeatedly - which seems likely given the high vax rate here. There are vaxxinated super-spreading mutant factories everywhere here man.

Might be time to consider moving on.

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Date: 2022-07-05 10:53 pm (UTC)
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I just had the most hit-me-over-the-head-with-a-frying-pan moment. In a casual conversation with a bunch of academics (PhD's and PhD wanna be's) the conversation turned toward their work and how they make other's ideas their own.

How can I be 56 years old and never knew that in the ranks of of intelligentsia in this country, the goal is to copy other's work? That thought was like a splash of cold water to the face.

Then the frying pan hit.

The same class of PhD's and PhD wanna be's are in the science's too and chances are they are copying other's work too without really arguing against the premises of it. They are a bunch of "yes men" in the classic corporate sense. There's no push for the truth. Maybe sometimes they trip over it.

And our government listens to these academics to make policy decisions. Academics who copy without questioning or debate. No wonder the covid response is fracked.

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Date: 2022-07-06 08:09 am (UTC)
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I remember back in the 80s when Robert Gallo copied Luc Montagnier’s work, “discovering” HIV and then pretending it was his own original discovery. It seemed pretty fake to me back then, but I had no idea such a practice was systemic.

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Montagnier, too

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Date: 2022-07-06 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kashtan
I asked this question at the end of ast week's thread, but I'm hoping posting it now will be more likely to get a response. Does anyone have any info about Israeli birth rate statistics? If the recent birth rate declines in many other highly vaccinated places are due to the shots, Israel's rate should have started to decline first, probably starting before the end of 2021, since they vaccinated the majority of their population before any other country.

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Date: 2022-07-08 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fredsmith11
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ISR/israel/birth-rate

"The current birth rate for Israel in 2022 is 19.248 births per 1000 people, a 1.49% decline from 2021."

That's about the same YoY decline so far in 2022 as in the preceding 4 years, so nothing much has happened so far. All stats go up and down, data collection often lags and/or is corrected a few months after initial publication.

Oz birth rates have been falling for years and below replacement since circa 1980, but no 2022 stats to be found. https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/2022/04/16/the-stats-guy-birth-rate-australia/

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