Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 38
Apr. 26th, 2022 01:12 pm
The pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, as children fall seriously ill from a previously unknown form of hepatitis caused by a novel adenovirus, which is apparently only found in countries that used a novel adenovirus-based Covid vaccine, the floor is open for discussion.
Drone footage in China, and Twitter
Date: 2022-04-26 05:31 pm (UTC)https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1518977444635586562?s=20&t=yne_56vdc5RwBHVi8amAUw
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Unrelated, I wonder if the liberation of Twitter will be the catalyst that sets off a covid reckoning? I poked my head in earlier, and Twitter is kind of loony today. Stuff like this all over the place:
https://twitter.com/Pinealpodcast/status/1518790191275720705
"Just testing this new Twitter out:
Covid vaccines kill people."
Follow up tweet:
"Not banned or penalized.
The above statement is objectively true regardless of whether you think they have been a net benefit."
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Twitter is like that chaos scene from the movie Airplane today.
Murmuration
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Date: 2022-04-26 05:33 pm (UTC)That is fine with me. I'll try to accomodate them as much as possible, but I won't be ridiculous about it.
That being said, JMG, have you considered doing a similar open forum on war and peace in the current climate? I have a sneaking hunch when all things are said and done in that arena during the next two years (the time frame we freaked out over Covid) the health effects in the war/peace realm will dwarf the health effects of our old friend the Rona.
One goes to different sites to gauge the tenor of a subculture. I am curious what this subculture thinks about this.
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Date: 2022-04-26 07:32 pm (UTC)Barry Goldwater was considered a dangerous maniac for proposing changes to the command structure in the event of a nuclear war. Now we've got senators saying we need direct combat between nuclear powers. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em...
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Date: 2022-04-26 05:35 pm (UTC)Anybody have the same feeling?
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Date: 2022-04-26 06:34 pm (UTC)And yet... In the past few weeks I've felt tension or pressure building, like the other shoe is going to drop. I was the original poster about the "mass death" dream and, while none have been quite so ominous or prophetic feeling, my dreams have been ramping up into weirdness again. I wake up feeling like I've been busy all night.
Anyone else?
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Date: 2022-04-26 05:43 pm (UTC)1. Vaccine critics and ivermectine/hydroxy supporters,
2. Trump and his followers,
3. Journalists giving correct picture on Russia/Ukraine (such as Scott Ritter, Pepe Escobar)?
Doing so will completely destroy all narratives built over the last 4-5 years and essentially expose the lies. Will that be of no consequence or does twitter not matter at all? If Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch are on twitter, will that change anything at all?
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Date: 2022-04-26 05:58 pm (UTC)The vilification is what bothers me. Just one more sign that if the vaxxed have any problems whatsoever, the first thing they will do is blame the unvaccinated. As someone said just today at work: "All models are wrong; some are useful." The model used for the Forbes article was both: wrong, and useful to vilify the unvaccinated.
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Date: 2022-04-26 06:21 pm (UTC)I can't know if the timing was intentional or not, but I suppose there is a possibility that the government is going after the unvaccinated again with a study to increase support in the public for the state of emergency.
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Date: 2022-04-26 06:04 pm (UTC)But yesterday I saw two people with masks on, but with it pulled down below their nose. What exactly is that?? It made sense when you were forced to wear a mask but wanted a little more air. But if you don't have to wear the mask at all, I don't see the point. Is this some kind of virtue signaling, where you're saying "I want to wear the mask (I just want to breathe)?" It seems very strange to me.
-Slink
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Date: 2022-04-26 06:39 pm (UTC)The open thread archives grew a lot and it was getting difficult to build them so in order to be able to keep doing them I split them into two Volumes
(also I am not able to still do the epub since my script no longer works on the downgraded hardware.
So for Volume 2, I replaced the .epub with an even more open format: .txt)
Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
Volume 1 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/8dBxzC4B#AkuddhK1eMAHK8xtCquBd7Es_19uU0UVAuO26PJ61ow
Volume 1 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/8JYV3QBT#ydwISn-_JZGsa3KCfNlMPZSmCKWEFgTYMJJnsvN0D9c
Volume 2 (everything after 1st of March)
Volume 2 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/sF4R3Twa#trT24uhNCOan7zD2SGUFxWlIQHkhe8GCR7X2lIlisZw
Volume 2 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/NJAn3ZaA#b2M3o0szkqCMzipdMZO5dKrokhRqhlsE26UOL-ZZOPM
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Date: 2022-04-26 06:54 pm (UTC)Thank you very, very much for hosting this forum.
And forumistas, thanks for being here.
The wild ride continues-- (are we walking into a Georgia O'Keeffe painting now?)
Cetiosaurus
Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Reactions
Date: 2022-04-26 06:59 pm (UTC)Sarah Carter
First Dose of Pfizer on 11/15/21
New Zealand
42 yrs old
EXCERPT
Q: What was your life like before you got the vaccine?
I was an energetic and healthy person who loved life and adventures.
Q: Would you like to share your reasons for getting vaccinated?
I was mandated to get it for my job. No jab, no job.
Q: What was your reaction, symptoms, & timeline?
Chest pain - 2 days after. 17 days after, I passed out and went to hospital. Extreme headaches, dizziness, breathlessness, neurological symptoms, and extreme fatigue.
Q: What is your life like now, after getting the vaccine?
Life is so hard. I used to walk 1 hour a day. Now I can only manage 10 mins before I'm breathless. Life is just existing, and I've lost my sparkle.
READ THE COMPLETE Q & A
https://www.realnotrare.com/post/sarah-carter
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Date: 2022-04-26 07:19 pm (UTC)- in the Netherlands the sick-leave data over March are published. Last February saw a recordbreaking 5.5%. In March this rose even further to 5.6%. One in 9 workers called in sick at some point during the month. In February Covid was the main cause of absence but in the last week of March the flu had taken over. It is unclear if people are more sick, or that people are calling sick more often due to fear of the sniffles or that something else is to blame. The healthcare sector reported that sick-leave in the first quarter was 30% higher than a year ago.
- since the second week of March all-cause mortality in the Netherlands has risen considerably. We came from a situation of mortality deficit, but April 10th the excess mortality was already +16%. No explanation has been offered.
- in the UK the last few days have seen a rise in infections. It remains to be seen if this is a new wave (if so, that would likely be reinfections as there is no new variant as far as I know)
- Israel has reported 12 cases of hepatitis in children. They used only Pfizer and Moderna, thus no adeno-vaccins. The whole thing seems quite mysterious to me.
Boccaccio
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Date: 2022-04-26 11:20 pm (UTC)https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/severe-hepatitis-cases-in-children-reported-in-13-countries-says-ecdc-1.4862563
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2022-DON376
Countries that used Astrazeneca:
-Belgium (over 55s only due to clotting risk)
-Spain
-Netherlands
-Italy
-United Kingdom and Northern Ireland
-Ireland
-France
-Romania
Countries that didn't:
- Denmark (approved, but stopped using)
- Israel
- US
- Norway (approved, but stopped using)
The J&J is also an adenovirus vector, I believe, and of the list that did not use AstraZeneca, only Israel didn't use the J&J, either.
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Date: 2022-04-26 07:32 pm (UTC)Day 1: Scratchy throat gradually getting worse, but not feeling ill.
Night 1: Fever, chills, sweating.
Day 2: Test in the morning came back negative. Fever all day, up to 102. Muscle aches, tiredness as I would expect with a fever. Respiratory symptoms confined to the throat. Assumed flu or bad cold.
Day 3. Night sweats but fever mostly gone, back to most activities. Slight sore throat. Skin on back and upper arms/legs oddly sensitive.
Day 4. Still night sweats with no associated fever. Energy level mostly back to normal. Still sensitive skin. Throat clearing up but a very occasional cough.
Day 5. Wife (2x foxed, not boosted) gets cough/congestion and tests positive, so I test again and positive bar appears instantly. Still night sweats and slight cough. Skin sensitivity ends suddenly around noon. Mild digestive upset.
Day 6. Still sweating occasionally at night, and I sweat easily during the day. Very occasional cough. Appetite a bit lower than normal. Otherwise nothing feels amiss. Still strongly positive on an antigen test, though a bit less than yesterday.
Some overall thoughts:
I wonder if testing positive prior to symptoms is more common in vaccinated people? It seems that my unfoxed body mounted a strong immune response before there was much virus present.
It also appears that peak viral load may occur later during infection with Omicron than with earlier variants, e.g. https://www.niid.go.jp/niid/en/2019-ncov-e/10884-covid19-66-en.html
With the prevalence of home testing or just no testing, only a small minority of cases are being officially reported now. Certainly our cases aren't going to be part of the statistics. So it's hard to know just how much virus is out there at the moment. It does remain true that hospitalization/severe illness rates are quite low.
I have all levels of covid concern in my extended household, from "Dread Plague!" to "no big deal really", and also varying levels of feeling personally responsible for passing it to others. Navigating those differences is more challenging than dealing with a somewhat odd but not especially dangerous virus.
Mark L
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Date: 2022-04-26 09:19 pm (UTC)May you recover completely and quickly!
I just recovered myself (PCR test positive), so that was 5 days of resting, chicken soup, and tea with honey and lemon (that worked wonders on the sore throat-- literally-- one cup and poof).
I've had many a cold and flu in my many years that was much worse. To summarize my covid experience: big whoop.
Unvaxxed Grumbling Grumbledore
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Date: 2022-04-26 08:56 pm (UTC)Walgreen’s most recent covid-19 report shows that, among its customers, the unvaccinated are now far less likely to test positive for a covid infection.
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Unvaxxed — 10%
1 Dose — 16.1%
2 Doses — 35.4%
3 Doses — 41.3%
Walgreen’s data also shows that unvaccinated folks test MORE OFTEN than anyone other group, presumably due to workplace testing requirements.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-april-26?s=r
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Date: 2022-04-26 11:01 pm (UTC)How can one drop so much aggression directed at oneself for so long should compassion be needed?
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Date: 2022-04-27 01:23 am (UTC)I would take a deep breath and accept that there are things we cannot change - like human nature.
I am trying not to despise or wish ill to the fox cultists but sometimes it happens. I try to accept that I am human but change track and think about something positive - like garden planting this spring.
So whatever happens will happen and I think people that profess love and pray for the foxed are just as misguided as people that wish ill on others. Either we have free will, in which case why pray for them?, or we don't, in which case why bother?
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Date: 2022-04-26 11:14 pm (UTC)Perhaps we went so crazy down here that the whiplash is taking us away quicker? Only a very few people still wear masks in my area, and everyone seems to have moved on. The government's too are so caught up in election mania they don't want to rock any boats.
As I've said before, maybe we are seeing the light and dark of our national character. Not caring enough to resist totalitarianism, but also not caring enough to enforce it.
Re: Strange Oz
Date: 2022-04-27 12:42 am (UTC)I got myself a mask exemption and cultivated a cheerful and polite "you can stick your COVID and vax BS" attitude. Mostly worked.
I feel for the people who were coerced into the jab. If you had to support a family you were trapped. The data on injuries and deaths is awful. The worst may still be to come, with some terrifying predictions floating around.
VIC is about to sack a load of teachers for not getting the mandated booster.
The current lull may be down to Mr V. Putin. He's caused another tear in the fabricated and delusional reality the elites and their followers live in.
Someone on the election trail had the cojones to say "zero carbon is dead". More truth leaking out, followed by major flapping of lips and green platitudes.
Crunch time may come if injuries and deaths get a lot worse and people put 2 and 2 together.
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Date: 2022-04-27 12:58 am (UTC)3 players die within a week
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Date: 2022-04-27 09:07 pm (UTC)For us, it's just a puny clutching of the chest and falling over.
Are you not entertained?
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Date: 2022-04-27 12:58 am (UTC)Like JMG, I don't think Elon is a savior that will take humanity to Mars and apparently free the internet.
I do wonder though of the reason he bought Twitter and seems to be allowing free speech (the nerve!).
One possibility is that the mass formation experiment is complete (successful or not, I don't know) so now it's okay to allow the plebes to vent online again. The easiest way to save face if to have a hero like Musk "force" the bad guys to do it. If this is true, we might see FB, Goog and the rest slowly reverse their policies (or change their CEO to reverse their policies).
Of course it could be some cesarism going on too and definitely Musk makes a better "dear leader" than Trump.
Re: Twitter
Date: 2022-04-27 09:37 am (UTC)Perhaps its a case of a changing wind. Because related to Ellon allowing free speech on TVitter, Exxon has banned the display of non-corporate flags like pride en blm:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/exxon-bans-outside-flags-being-flown-company-flagpoles
If this trend continues, wind is changing indeed.
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From:Stress Relief
Date: 2022-04-27 01:28 am (UTC)I highly recommend Miniature Calendar. It always brightens my day.
—Princess Cutekitten
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Date: 2022-04-27 06:15 pm (UTC)Murmuration
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Date: 2022-04-27 02:28 am (UTC)This is a similar short video of Canada, population of 38 million, and Afghanistan, population of 39 million. Once again, Covid deaths in Canada skyrocket after the implementation of vaccines and Afghanistan's numbers stay low. https://t.me/c/1411019203/1206
Neither video addresses how many people have died from the vaccines without testing positive for Covid, i.e. heart attacks, strokes, blood clots, palsies, seizures, etc.
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Date: 2022-04-27 02:42 am (UTC)https://rumble.com/v128lrv-the-explosion-of-cancer-and-latent-disease-the-lipid-nanoparticle-platform-.html?fbclid=IwAR0J0_5T7LxYQA5Wnma0ljBlqnZI9ZirV42jfGKkTW12_setEG2tHwQSM64
In this video, he briefly mentions how various studies have shown how the lipid nanoparticles are behind a lot of illnesses as they deposit themselves in various parts of the body and do not degrade. The result is increases in colon and breast cancers, re-awakened viruses such as herpes, Epstein-Barr, Varicella zoster and cytomegalovirus. He suspects that a lot of the ‘long covid’ cases are actually these re-awakened viruses. He also touches on the reported increases in deaths among the working-age population. Quite a lot of info squeezed into a 5-minute video!
Because these lipid nanoparticles are very persistent, it looks like they will be hammering the highly vaccinated populations for a long time to come. I am wondering if the jump in hepatitis cases among children can be linked back to this. Who knows what horrors are yet to come? Yikes!
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Date: 2022-04-27 07:44 am (UTC)I haven't posted in this particular series of posts before though I've checked in every now and again.
Those of you who like video media may find this interesting and useful, there is a transcript below the video:
https://peakprosperity.com/study-mrna-vaccines-dont-reduce-deaths/
It's a analysis of a paper that's still in peer review which presents a randomised controlled trial looking at all cause mortality after each of the main vaccines.
Here's the paper itself: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489
Upshot from the study itself: mRNA same as or worse than nothing. Adenovirus good, even for heart attacks??
Of course it is only one study, more research needed, so on.
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Date: 2022-04-27 09:28 am (UTC)Check out Jeffrey A. Tucker's interview with Hadaway about how he did it.
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-attorney-who-won-the-mask-mandate-case-in-florida-an-interview/
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Date: 2022-04-27 10:44 am (UTC)My wife is double-vaxxed; I am not. We both have the same cold right now. (Or possibly Omicron, but what's the difference?) Now, in the old days, she never got sick; if she did, it was minor and ignorable. This time, not so much. I'm certain she will recover (unless some god deliberately wills otherwise), but her symptoms are about 5x worse than mine right now.
OTH, I do notice how colds are suddenly spreading like wildfire now that masks are off in my area. Looks like they weren't as useless as some people thought!
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Date: 2022-04-27 07:47 pm (UTC)"Anecdotal Mr. Burr."
"Mr. Mason, surely..."
"Mr. Burr please approach the bench."
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Date: 2022-04-27 11:29 am (UTC)https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1519002162721865728
Canada - keep your kids safe from this psycho
“You're gonna be able to get your vaccine as soon as you turn five ... I know you're excited, I know you're eager"
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1466928568420732933
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Date: 2022-04-27 01:16 pm (UTC)Interesting discussion on whether the jabbed are starting to age abnormally fast.
If you look after your health you can prevent it but if you live a typically unhealthly lifestyle and got jabbed, well, not great...
Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Reactions
Date: 2022-04-27 04:20 pm (UTC)David Wood
First Dose of Pfizer on 04/03/21
Denver, Colorado
30 yrs old
EXCERPT
Q: What is your life like now, after getting the vaccine?
Since August 2021 I’ve been in and out of all different types of doctors offices. I’ve been gaslit by almost every doctor I’ve seen, all claiming it was just anxiety. After months of fighting for more testing, we finally captured an arrhythmia on an event monitor. It was non-sustained ventricular tachycardia that lasted about 4 seconds. The only way I can describe it is that it feels like a machine gun going off in your chest. It’s so sudden and quick you don’t have time to react. After that I went in for an emergency procedure the next day for blockages in my heart (angiogram) which came back normal with no signs of coronary artery disease. My cardiologist then recommend we get an MRI to check for structural issues that would cause this, including myocarditis. Thankfully my MRI came back showing no inflammation and no damage. I’m baffled because, to this day, my heart still feels off and I'll have random chest pain and heart rate spikes that seem to be tied to flare ups. At this point, it feels like an autoimmune response.
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Q: What do you wish others knew?
I wish folks understood that this is a real issue and people's lives have been stripped from them. Everything we take for granted on a daily basis has been taken away. I wish they knew about the lack of support from these companies and governments. Not only has our health been stolen from us but our financial wellbeing has been destroyed as well. To me these vaccines were a textbook definition of a solution that is worse than the problem.
READ THE COMPLETE Q & A
https://www.realnotrare.com/post/david-wood
Re: Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Reactions
Date: 2022-04-27 07:47 pm (UTC)Which is to say these really bad cases are often not a simple mechanism like clotting or heart inflammation, but rather multiple systems ceasing to maintain the delicate balance that keeps our bodies healthy.
It could be autoimmunity, the body attacking its own tissues seemingly at random. That is probably most likely given what we know about the shots.
It could be a disruption of the central homeostasis centers in the brain.
Perhaps it could also be a disruption on an energetic/etheric level.
I'm sure there are other possibilities, and we have discussed many of them to death here, but these sorts of "integrity failure" issues are extremely debilitating, often impossible to effectively treat, and difficult to pin on a particular cause.
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