ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 37

The pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, as the corporate media scrambles around looking for something else to talk about and the excess death numbers ratchet remorselessly upward, the floor is open for discussion.

Current Mood: contemplative

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From: (Anonymous)

A minor data point. Here in eastern Canada, I have had several conversations with unrelated people in different social circles (at work, friends, etc) that all express the sentiment: "why did I bother to get vaccinated?".

I was in a work meeting last week where someone complained about getting very sick from Covid, and someone else in the meeting piped up to say they were hit pretty hard by Covid, too, and so why did we bother with lockdowns and vaccines?

My wife was speaking recently to a friend, and this friend said more or less the same thing. I can't prove this, but because these people are openly talking about this not just to me, it seems that it is a sentiment that is spreading. Especially because some of these points were made in a work setting, where people tend to be more cautious. Whether this undercurrent will turn into something bigger remains to be seen.

I haven't known anyone in my various social circles to "die suddenly", nor complain about strange illnesses or symptoms. But in a company of several hundred people, I would very likely notice if someone died. So far the talk of higher excess deaths isn't something I can validate with my own anecdata.

But the shift in attitude I wrote about above is something that caught my attention.

From: (Anonymous)

Interesting! Here in northern Germany, people are slowly dropping the masks (the mandate ended two weeks ago).
I‘ve heard of several possible vax deaths, and personally know two people with somewhat severe vax damage. Those two cling to the idea that „it would have been much worse without the shot“ and are ready for the second booster.