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lonely walkThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more people start wondering why so many vaccinated people they know are coming down with serious unexpected health problems, the floor is open for discussion.  
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Date: 2022-02-08 07:19 pm (UTC)
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Wow you really did change your mind.
Where before you were ever the one that insisted, that “no it isn’t different this time”
Now you draw parallels to the start of the biggest thing that hit Europe in 20. Century.
Concern noted.

On a related note. Today I had a conversation with a friendly nurse, and we spoke about the parallels of this political campaign and the post ww2 political movement, also demonising an outside group.

Oh, and I would like to thank you for everything.
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scotlyn: balancing posture in sword form (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
If this message is seen by "Sinners4DiseaseControl".

I would really like to get some advice from you to help me source a radiation level testing device that I can make available to my patients for testing their homes, etc. I have sent you a private Dreamwidth message, where it would be better to take this off-topic discussion.

But you may not have realised that you have an inbox that people can send messages to. If you want to check mine, and then answer it privately, look at your "login" icon at the top left hand corner of this webpage. If you are logged in, there will be a link to "inbox" underneath it.
Thank you.

If you allow this message, JMG, I am also eternally grateful to you, also.

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Scotlyn, if she doesn't spot this in a day or so, I'll pass it on to her by other means.

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Alchemical Writers Group

Date: 2022-02-08 07:11 pm (UTC)
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Quick reminder if you would like to write in (virtual) community, the Alchemical Writers groups is gathering today at 4pm EST. More info and registration link here https://lu.ma/2ibdysdq

Looking forward to being with everyone today!

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I wanted to but...... something 'not junky' got in the way..........

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1914 and 2022

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Wow. Just wow. This gives me chills. Thank you for encouraging all of us to give attention to our devotions, to whichever God/Gods/Goddesses/etc. we honor. Those connections, it seems to me, may be all that stands between us and utter despair.

That, and welcoming spaces such as this.

Valerie

Update (and a vision from 1984):

Date: 2022-02-08 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
First, the update: Outside of an occasional coughing fit (lots of phlegm to cough up, not on a daily basis though) I seem to be getting slowly better. The sudden rush of sinus problems has instead turned out to be a reaction to Aspartame – something I had not had until recently. I know how it developed, and am likely to need to avoid it for the rest of my life (A milk allergy took a few years to work its way through, not necessarily counting on being able to outlast THIS allergy).

Second, the vision from 1984:
I was walking down East Grand River in Lansing Township (a part near East Lansing) on July 4th, and I walked by a display of a 1858 vintage fire engine within a glass house. I looked at it for a few seconds, then as I walked away I saw in my mind a glass building growing from it to encase quite a few stories and a soaring peak well up. Then, after a few second's pause, I heard some shattering glass in my mind and imagined the building falling apart – and the fire engine that was the reason for the original structure was nowhere to be seen.

Why would I speak of this? Because, unlike a lot of imagining I had gone through, I still remember that walk and what I remembered clear as day. The imaginings may have had details changed, but the walk itself is clearly remembered. And I know I've seen the building to crazy heights of things; I can't help but wondering if the past couple years has been "The breaking of Glass," or the laughing of the God(s) getting their amusement from us.

– Donald Hargraves

Thank you

Date: 2022-02-08 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear John Michael Greer,

Thank you, thank you, thank you for holding this space, and for keeping it civilized and on-topic.

Thank you, dear commentariat, thank you, thank you.

Cetiosaurus

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I second that. Both of it. Thanks!!

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Date: 2022-02-08 07:40 pm (UTC)
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/u8eW1cm9tRn7/

Oh my. From Christine Anderson of the EU parliament.

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Date: 2022-02-08 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for this. It's short but sweet, and most encouraging! In English but with German captions.

“Dear Canadians do not give up, you are on the right path, your bravery & determination to stand up for freedom, democracy & the rule of law has inspired others to stand up”. - Christine Anderson, EU Parliament.

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What you said...

Date: 2022-02-08 07:40 pm (UTC)
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Well, far be it from me to provide an intelligent reply to your intelligent comment... To me it looks like magic, in the way Couliano might have understood it. A powerful ceaseless relentless media barrage, an elite class that's more interested in looking smart than actually being smart, interested and motivated parties in power... And here we are... I'd be curious to know if, had he been available, Jung would've had a foretelling to provide, as her did in the case off the War To End All Wars. Perhaps he did... See Kingsley's Catafalque... Sorry if I'm being a downer, here...

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Date: 2022-02-08 09:11 pm (UTC)
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Mega cacomagic, I'd say.

I like how you put it, "an elite class that's more interested in looking smart than actually being smart"

I'd add: "an elite class that's more interested in signaling that they care about other people than, like, actually caring"

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Date: 2022-02-08 07:50 pm (UTC)
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James Kunstler has a good rant about the powers coercing us into getting vaccinated. Along with that are some very good (actually, startlingly horrifying) statistics from Dr Robert Mallone's substack.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/wake-up-call/

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those Malone statistics are absolutely jaw-dropping, yes.

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Date: 2022-02-08 07:56 pm (UTC)
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The typical story about how WWI escalated into what it bacame is that the various nations, aligned into blocks, all had their war plans ready to go. These plans were based on scientific calculations of call-up time, readiness prep, train schedules and marching times per kilometer, so that like a mechanical watch once the trigger was pulled it all went into action with no time to hesitate. For the trigger to the war, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, I've wondered at what role magic might have played.

There are interesting analyses of the strong interest in having this war, coming from a small circle of the British elite, based in England, South Africa and elsewhere, "Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War" (Gerry Docherty & Jim Macgregor). I have even read allusions to the possibilty that there was a magical component involved in the effort.

When I read of the curious chain of circumstances that were involved in the assassination by the assassination team of which Princip (the ultimate assassin) was allied, I wonder if it was just coincidence that finally put the Archduke, basically in his lap, or if there were additional forces being employed that made the end result occur, regardless of the misses and changes that almost surely could have derailed that particular attempt. See Assassination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand
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Building the Narrative to censor.

Date: 2022-02-08 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was on the way to the dog park with my dog Tanka, listening to an NPR segment, several experts interviewed about strategy, from moderating to deplatforming, the official response to "misinformation."

It was a cultivating of a way to talk about censorship while calling it moderation, justifying it, constructing a Narrative of what is acceptable. It is clear there can be no discussion about vaccine efficacy or harm/adverse events. There can be no discussion about the efficacy of any "off-label" treatment from Vitamin D to Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. There can be no discussion about the science or wisdom of vaccinating children. No discussion about unmasking children or anyone else. No discussion criticising vaccine passports.

All of it is thrown in the "misinformation" bin open for big tech to flag and remove, for all Democratic Party leaning media to censor and for liberals/progressives to dismiss without understanding, and to make a target for mockery and demonization. Anything considered "harm" can be censored. "Harm" can be anything that deviates from vaccine-only policy from NIAID (Fauci) the FDA, CDC, Phizer et al Pharma, officially recognized medical experts and the White House - and presumably any policy dictated by the White House including War in Ukraine against Russia or angering China in the bargain, distracting attention with war away from the Olympics -and presumably gender policy or CRT.

It was astounding to hear them justifying to themselves why it is the good and moral thing to censor, and how confident they are that they are the ones who deserve to define harm, that even questioning their right to decide what will be censored is "misinformation".

I suppose authoritarians always think they are justified, and find ways to justify anything.

WHD

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Date: 2022-02-08 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes. The Bolsheviks, the Nazis, the Khmer Rouge, the USA in Vietnam and Iraq. All had used some abstract higher good to justify the horrors they were committing.

It makes me worried about anyone who knows The One True Answer. A healthy dose of self- doubt moderates one's worst tendencies.

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Date: 2022-02-08 08:13 pm (UTC)
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It always puzzled me how quickly people threw caution to the wind re these experimental drugs/vaccines. The way people duly rolled up their sleeves when they were told to, was trance like. These were the same people who said they wanted to wait until the drug was proven safe first. It was a if a pied piper was leading them to the vaxx centres.

The same people who drink smoothies, do intermittent fasting and employ personal trainers decided to take experimental drugs as if they were down and outs on the streets. Could it be that there were malefic forces involved? BTW many of the jabbed up are spiritual people with a spiritual practice, not that that made much difference.

On FB I saw this posted which seems to have Kek's fingerprints on it yet again.

The first lockdown in the UK was on March 23rd, 2020. All restrictions were lifted on Jan 19th 2022. That’s exactly 666 days.

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Date: 2022-02-09 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was explaining ( or out loud wondering ) to my son last night about popular conspiracies and I said off the cuff "if you picked up that hat there" a red hat on my chair - " we could also link that to a popular conspiracy and become very paranoid." He picked up the hat and read a number on the label which oddly ended in 666. It proved a point for me in my mind at least that webs are far bigger that individual power though many are riding a wave of it, how many will be tossed off?

I cannot understand the connection between those who have been outward rebel activists and this sudden allegence to the "narrative" either. It's sad.

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Date: 2022-02-08 08:18 pm (UTC)
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I wonder, at what point would you start calling what's happening in Canada - a general strike?

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Date: 2022-02-09 12:10 am (UTC)
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The convoy's actions have been carefully measured and restrained. Public support for a more general strike will be much stronger because of all this careful preparatory work.

If, God(s) forbid, things turn violent in Ottawa because of an official overreaction, I hope

#Trudeaunanmen Square

breaks the internet.

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Freedom Convoy

Date: 2022-02-08 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello, JMG, and commentariat.
There has been a tremendous amount of discussion regarding the Freedom Convoy 2022 that descended upon Ottawa, Canada the week before last. I'd like to offer a little bit of on-the-ground insight, if I may. I've been attending the protest every single day that it has been in town (I live about twenty minutes away by foot from Parliament Hill.)
Firstly, - and I'm not going to dwell upon this subject for too long,- I have not witnessed any incidents of violence, or bigotry from the demonstrators. I have seen no racist flags, signs, or stickers. I haven't even seen any signs of graffiti from the anti-mandate crowd. This is not to say that everyone participating in these protests has no history of prejudice, but I think that it is noteworthy that someone can attend for twelve(?) days in a row and find no evidence for what the media is making out to be a prevalent element of the convoy.
Secondly, while the majority of demonstrators belong to the working class (truckers, etc,) I have also spoken to a number of people firmly situated in the salary class (doctors, engineers, government workers, etc.) The main difference seems to be that with the exception of some of the healthcare staff who have already been laid off for noncompliance with vaccine mandates, members of the salary class are by and large less vocal about their participation. They are less likely to carry signs, and more likely to cover up their faces. This essentially confirms what JMG, and a lot of other people have pointed out these last couple of years: it is far more acceptable to oppose draconian COVID countermeasures in the working class than in the PMC/salary class. This has also been my experience in personal life.
Thirdly, the demonstrations show no signs of slowing down. There are indeed fewer people during the week, but it is still not unusual to have 1-2,000 (excluding those inside vehicles) people between the lawn of the Parliament buildings, and the National War Memorial on a Monday afternoon.
Finally, yes they are attempting to choke off the supplies. On Sunday, the Ottawa Police began issuing tickets, and arresting those who tried to bring fuel to the truckers. The police also seized a considerable amount of fuel that was being stored at one of the encampments. That being said, many people are finding ways around this (I am not encouraging anyone to break the law by saying this, just giving an update based on my own observations, and what I have heard.) The truckers I have spoken to also say that they have more than enough supplies of most kinds. Before the ban went into effect, I was helping to distribute things like wet wipes, socks, food, and hand warmers to the convoy. Most of the truckers thanked me, but said that they have already filled their vehicles with donations ranging from clothes, to food, to entertainment (board games, and such.) Fuel is an issue at this time, but I suspect that those boys in the convoy really will keep doing what they say can't be done.
Let me know if you have any other questions, or comments about the happenings in Ottawa. I'll be happy to provide what information I can. Thanks so much for making this such an amazing space for discussion, JMG, and everyone.

Ottawanon

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There's a rumor going around that the Ottawa police (or some of them, at least) have been turning a blind eye to gas cans, despite the order from on high. Can you give us any more details of your observations of the cops on the scene - their attitude and behavior?

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A single .html file that has all the posts and comments, you can just unpack it and open it in you browser (I edited a bit the styles so to make elements and blockquotes more visible):
https://mega.nz/file/odBlmICb#Jz_mFFPY9PmPDl9a6GGdEiNhCcblhndsoTKukckyiAU

The .epub (open ebook format) all open threads and comments is taking a bit longer I will post it here later

the .epub

Date: 2022-02-09 04:53 am (UTC)
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Here is the updated .epub (open ebook format) of the hypothesis and all open threads and comments
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Dr Malone

Date: 2022-02-08 08:39 pm (UTC)
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https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/a-health-public-policy-nightmare?

The science presented here could go a long way to confirming JMG's divination that the vaccine will be potentially more deadly than the virus, long term. He and now others are asking why no study has been done until now, on the persistance of vaccine made spike proteins. This study is suggesting that the amount of spike created is greater than some seriously ill covid patients, and that it persists in the body at least 60 days, which is only as long as the study tested for. This is especially alarming as the official story in the media since the beginning is that the spike stays in the upper arm, and only persists for days. But they had no scientific bases apparently, to state that so categorically. They didn't know, it was just essential to the vaccine-only, safe and effective narrative.

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Regarding the spike protein remaining in the injection site (bio-distribution), I wrote up in detail a note to a friend suffering an adverse reaction. I will repost that here. The Japanese Ministry of Health required additional reports from Pfizer prior to approval...


Here is the original Pfizer document, in Japanese.
https://www.pmda.go.jp/drugs/2021/P20210212001/672212000_30300AMX00231_I100_1.pdf#page=16

There are two major issues indicated but not clearly. These are bio-distribution and transmission/shedding.

Data on page 7 in English shows bio-distribution. This is the primary issue. The failure of the injected serums to remain in the muscle. The evidence is now beyond dispute that the clotting and micro clotting health problems are a result of the spike protein NOT remaining in the arm muscle but traveling throughout the body. As it does, it can cause damage to blood vessel linings, create clotting, and accumulate elsewhere in organs.

The evidence for clotting is beyond doubt at this stage. Clotting is not the only issue with the spike protein in the body, however. It is now well-known that the spike protein is itself pathogenetic, that is, toxic.

This is the possible cause of your own problems with the serums. (There are also issues with the actual mRNA lipids as well, but that is a different set of issues.)

Regarding shedding, key terms used in Japanese

代謝 metabolism (aisha)
糞中排泄 fecal excretion (Kuso-chū haisetsu)


In short, the report lists test results demonstrating injected material is removed through bodily processes.

This key paper reviews many of the known issues as of spring, 2021. (the data is far more demonstrative now)

From: International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice, and Research, 10, 2021Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/51
This is very comprehensive but to focus on shedding, from page 62

2. Vaccine Shedding
There has been considerable chatter on the Internet about the possibility of vaccinated people causing disease in unvaccinated people in close proximity. While this may seem hard to believe, there is a plausible process by which it could occur through the release of exosomes from dendritic cells in the spleen containing misfolded spike proteins, in complex with other prion reconformed proteins. These exosomescan travel to distant places. It is not impossible to imagine that they are being released from the lungs and inhaled by a nearby person. Extracellular vesicles, including exosomes, have been detected in sputum, mucus, epithelial lining fluid, and bronchoalveolar lavage fluid in association with respiratory diseases (Lucchetti et al., 2021).A Phase 1/2/3 study undertaken by BioNTech on the Pfizer mRNA vaccine implied in their study protocol that they anticipated the possibility of secondary exposure to the vaccine (BioNTech, 2020). The protocol included the requirement that “exposure during pregnancy” should be reported by the study participants. They then gave examples of “environmental exposure during pregnancy” which included exposure “to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.” They even suggested two levels of indirect exposure: “A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception.”

This raises the stakes from Pfizer’s report to the Japanese. (Of course, as is well documented now, Pfizer manipulated the tests and submitted falsified conclusions and then wrapped those in the confusion between absolute and relative risk. “Metabolism" in that report is now given to include skin contact (sweat) and inhalation (breathing). Further data also shows urine and saliva as a transmission route along with feces and breast milk.
Evidence for SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein in the Urine of COVID-19 patients

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.27.21250637v1

Antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines are detectable in saliva

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.11.434841v1

Here is a Canadian interview with Dr Bryam Brindle
https://www.covidtruths.co.uk/2021/06/dr-byram-bridle-canadian-vaccine-expert-we-made-a-mistake/

the fellow to whom the Japanese Pfizer report was leaked. Needless to say, he has been viciously attacked ever since. Those links are also easy to find, disputing all of the above.

I think that is about enough for the moment. Coffee done.

Using DuckDuckGo to search on: pfizer report japan shedding canadian

-trtumi

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Long corona

Date: 2022-02-08 08:40 pm (UTC)
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Articles on BBC news today (which I only read to know about what the MSM is trying to push as an agenda, and what to watch out for):

- 2 arricles on miscarriages (there has been a low-level baselune of these about every 2 or 3 weeks since about September, so clearly they have increased in frequency)

- An article on long corona. About 2 million are apparently suffering from it, and conveniently it has remarkably similar symptoms to side effects of certain gene therapies. Of note, however, is the fact thar a lot of sufferers noted improvement in their symptoms from cold water swimming. Anyone familiar with Magic Monday will see where I am going with this...

This is obviously not medical advice, but I have thought since the beginning that corona the disease (as opposed to the virus itself) is primarily a disease of the etheric body. I know when I caught it (or what I assume must have been it, as I wasn't tested) in April 2020, I had a week of just utter exhaustion - I have never felt tiredness like it. A lot of people in the West have weakened etheric bodies from poor quality food and sleep and from working jobs that keep them (literally) in the dark, leave them no time or energy to exercise and make them miserable. EM pollution probably doesn't help either. After being struck with a disease that depletes the etheric body, they are then effectively in 'overdraft' and consequently have no energy or strength and so get the long corona symptoms.
I imagine the gene therapies do something similar, by informing the body to effectively attack itself.

Taking this logic forward though, anything which stengthens or heals the etheric body should be expected to relieve ongoing symptoms, though this is obviously just a thought experiment and not medical advice...

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Interesting. I had a similar thought when I heard (mostly unvaccinated, so not related to the shots) people talking about their „corona experience“ - some of it sounded very much like a (short/light, and sometimes not so short/not so light) version of a dark night of the soul to me. Like people working through a lot of spiritual and/or energetic stuff in very short time. Whether that was triggered by corona, or corona was triggered by that, is anybody‘s guess.

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Apologies JMG if this is too conspiratorial, but around November last year, I happened on a few comments in some of the less well policed skeptic forums which referred to something called "operation Marburg". Now anyone who knows their biological agents will get alarm bells ringing from that, but from a little digging it seemed to be linked to a plan to 'get' everyone who avoided the first round of vixens by making them need a vixen to that, or just outright killing them. Then the passports, etc can continue as originally planned. I'm not sure how practical that plan is in reality, but it's a plausible idea I guess. Then in December/January significant parts of the large country to the west of the Pacific ocean were locked down due to, officially, corona outbreaks,but unofficially, haemorrhagic fever outbreaks.

So where I'm going with this is - what if an increasingly desperate ruling class, about to be pushed from power by a popular protest of, say, truck drivers, decided to try to wrest control back with a new, unexpected biological threat, re-justifying all of the pandemic beaurocratic machinery?

It would certainly fit the description of a "mass casualty event", as seen in people's dreams.

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Date: 2022-02-09 12:26 am (UTC)
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Well, what really worries me is that there are still samples of smallpox, and it wouldn't take that big a mistake for it to get out. Frankly, I'm amazed it hasn't yet, but add to this that a lot of the people involved in storage of the samples are caught up by the Covid hysteria and certain astrological indications and inner plane experiences, and I find it plausible that some lunatic will release smallpox at some point in the near future.

Given just how many of the infected smallpox kills, and that it blinds a large number of survivors and causes a host of other long term problems on top of that, this would be a complete catastrophe, and the sheer scale of the panic is likely to be unlike anything we've seen in decades.

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My mother went to the hospital today for a heart pain and not feeling well. If anyone feels inclined to please send prayers her way for her recuperation, complete healing from this vaccines and her well-being, I would appreciate it very much.
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I'm sorry to hear that open space, prayer incoming.

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Date: 2022-02-08 09:11 pm (UTC)
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Well guys, like many others ([personal profile] rintrah, also Igor Chudov has been speaking about this quite a bit), I don't know if this is over. And for once I'm not talking about restrictions and mandates and the Ottawa stuff, I'm talking about COVID in general. Because I had a "first" yesterday.

Let me back up. I live in a backwater part of Canada where we've had very little COVID so far (which is why people are still scared of it); it was only a month ago that I met anyone who had even had COVID, ever, and I still don't know anyone who's had a serious case.

So yesterday, our nurse comes to me and says, "I've got one for you, another guy with that weird post-booster rash, man we've been seeing a lot of that haven't we!"

I think, y-yeah... we sure h-have...

Anyway she brings me this guy, late 50s, doesn't look in the full picture of health to begin with, and he describes this rash he got a few days after his booster, like so many others I've been seeing. We talk about it, blah blah blah, and then we're just about done, and he says...

... yeah I actually had COVID a while ago, before I got boosted.

And I think to myself, you poor benighted fool, you got BOOSTED after you already had COVID?!? Who told you that was a good idea? Are you not aware, sir, of the growing body of alternative literature suggesting that boosting impairs your immune system and so forth?

Of course he isn't aware; he's just some normie.

And so my point is, I don't know what will pan out. Hopefully not mass death. But I can easily foresee, over the next year or two, a world where people who keep getting boosted... keep getting COVID... and the non-vaxxed don't, or at least not as severely. Just like others have predicted. We'll see. I don't have a good feeling about it.

I guess the next thing I'll wait for is to meet my first person who's had COVID twice.

-Bofur

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Meanwhile, if you're a pray-er, pray for Ottawa. The tension in the air right now is as thick as glue.

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Date: 2022-02-08 11:42 pm (UTC)
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Bofur,

I appreciate your updates and anecdotal stories. I am an un-foxxed Canadian, and am waiting with a sense of trepidation on both the outcome of the Ottawa/Canadian protests and the long term consequences of the vixens.

I have prayed every night for the Freedom Convoy and all who support them. I don't know how they've done it but seems to me that they're guided by some higher force or power that protects them from being drawn into the quagmire just waiting to swallow them up.

Tim PW

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Date: 2022-02-08 09:18 pm (UTC)
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More fun times in NY state.

Legislation is pending on a vote for a bill that would put all adult vaccination records into a State held database.

At the same time, do y'all remember Assembly Bill A416? That was the one that would have given the Governor of New York State to detain anyone that he/she determines is a "threat to public health" at detention centers. The language in the Bill was broad enough that it could easily include unvaccinated people. The Bill was withdrawn due to much widespread criticism.

Well, now unelected Kathy Hochul is trying to backdoor it as a "regulation" - Cuomo was famous for doing this when the legislature wouldn't give him what he wanted - and it would basically give Hochul the same powers as in Bill A416. From the site linked below:

" Clearly, the failure of the bill in the legislature prompted Hochul to try to give herself completely new powers via regulations. Regulations are supposed to be minor rules devised by the bureaucracies to implement a law passed by the legislature and signed by Governor. But Hochul is attempting to give herself entirely new powers through the regulatory back door. Regulations only require a posting in the Register, a New York State publication, and waiting a specified period for public comment.

Cuomo used to do this all the time. If he could not get a bill he wanted passed in the legislature he would simply write regulations that did the same thing, and our feckless legislature rarely did anything to stop him or to protect their responsibilities as lawmakers."

I live here in a small city in upstate NY, and have been on the fence about moving( I'm rather invested in a small urban homestead I've managed to cobble together here). This is a rather hard nudge to the "get out while you can" column.

https://www.votervoice.net/AUTISMACTION/campaigns/91110/respond?utm_medium=email&_hsmi=202439905&utm_content=202439905&utm_source=hs_email

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Date: 2022-02-09 12:57 am (UTC)
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Hmm…so they want to know who has been vaxxed and who hasn’t AND they want to be able to send people to camps. I don’t see any way those two totally separate desires could meld in any detrimental way.

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This is the latest from the Brownstone Institute website.

“The Honking Will Continue”:
A Conversation With BJ Dichter
BY LAURA ROSEN COHEN
FEBRUARY 8, 2022

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-honking-will-continue-a-conversation-with-bj-dichter/

BJ Dichter is one of the organizers of the Canadian Truckers for Freedom Convoy and its media spokesman. I had an opportunity to speak with him earlier this week about the situation in Ottawa, the convoy’s strategy and about some of the political elements that are at play as this extremely fluid situation makes headlines and continues to inspire people all over the world.

I joked with Mr. Dichter that my first question is actually how on earth did I not know about him or hear about before now? I often joke about myself that I’m a “redneck Jew”, but it’s a pretty lonely club in Canada. I guess there’s at least two of us now…

BJ, thanks so much for making the time to talk to me, I really appreciate it. Let me preface my first question by saying that I saw you do a podcast interview recently with Professor Gad Saad of Montreal, in which you described your brilliant media strategy. For those who haven’t seen that interview, or know about it, essentially your strategy is that you are not speaking to any mainstream media-only independent media. You further explained that as a result of this policy, the public needs to be aware that anything said about you in the mainstream media, or anything said by a politician about you is complete conjecture and fabrication because they have no direct line or access to you. They are unable to quote you directly. Zero access.

That’s correct, and that is the main reason why this has all been so frustrating for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Up until now, Justin Trudeau has never lost a battle and he never had any challenges to his will. And that is because everything about him was filtered through the mainstream media. He had uninterrupted deference from them. That’s gone now. Now, many people are mad at him, not a “fringe minority”, and his government now and for once, he has to answer to them. He isn’t going to have a choice about that and calling us a “fringe minority” will ultimately force a complete about face. The mainstream media is unable to run interference for him now.

An “about face”? Tell me a little bit of what that might look like. What do you predict?

I believe it is inevitable that all political parties will be looking for a scalp, and also a way out. In order to save face, they will probably claim victory over the coronavirus, say something about Omicron, how well the vaccines and their policies protected us, they’ll tell us that we should just thank them and they’ll say ‘you’re welcome’ and then they will immediately move onto their next policy disaster, probably back to climate change.

Do you get the sense that there are any adults in the room in the federal government or within the municipal government of Ottawa? What are you hearing?

I understand from several very well-placed sources that the Liberal caucus is at odds with the Prime Minister and that several Members of Parliament are very embarrassed by the situation. Not a lot, but there are some. And there are obviously others who do not want this mess to be their legacy, so it’s a matter of ego for some. But this will be their legacy if they keep doubling down and they certainly do not want that.

Have any members of the Progressive Conservative party met with you? Or are they also just “standing in front of trucks” and saying nice things about you? Shouldn’t they be doing more? I mean, this is political gold. They didn’t take the knives out when Justin Trudeau’s blackface photographs surfaced. When are the knives coming out? Ever?

Never underestimate the PC party’s ability to score on their own net.

That certainly seems to be the case. You also mentioned in the Saad interview that the problem in Canadian politics isn’t that Canadians “want” Liberals or Trudeau in power, but that we don’t actually have a functioning, actually Conservative opposition. That is an excellent point, and I agree completely. Can you please elaborate on that?

From a marketing perspective, the PC’s are complete morons. They are so controlled in their messaging that all they get out to the public are these over-worked, over-thought out milquetoast messages that nobody cares about. That is the problem. They only think in terms of mainstream media. They need to do a regular, comprehensive and thoughtful sweep of alternative media and understand alternative media platforms. When I explain this to them, they say ‘oh but that’s American, we’re Canadian’. Then I try to explain that we live in a globalized world, and urge them to at least try to understand what is happening in the global media landscape or basically that they will die (as a political force). The other problem is that the federal “Conservative” party is controlled by three lobbyists and their lobbying firm Crestview Strategy. Of the three founders of that company, two are Conservative (Mark Spriro and Rob Smith) and one who recently resigned is a Liberal, Rob Silver. That’s a real problem.

(Note: Rob Silver is married to Katie Telford, the current Chief of Staff of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s office. Rob Silver, founded the firm but resigned after his wife became Chief of Staff.)

Without giving away any plans, what do you think is going to happen next? The Mayor of Ottawa is calling for a mediator to step in, and provincial governments seem to be moving toward declaring an end to mandates and Covid restrictions. What do you see playing out?

Well, we’ll see what happens, but it all depends on how stubborn the federal government remains. I thought we were actually a week away from the signs we are seeing today, such as the ones you mentioned. I know that some very influential individuals have been reaching out to highly placed members of the federal government and telling them to calm things down. Calls are coming into the federal government from all over, saying the same thing.

What are we to make of the confiscation of fuel and food for the truckers and for making honking illegal for the next few days in Ottawa? It must be illegal to confiscate food and fuel-never mind immoral.

It is certainly not legal to confiscate those things. It is illegal and they are just trying to hide illegality behind the Emergency Order. None of those actions will stand up in a court of law. They will never be able to justify those actions in front of a judge. These are pressure tactics.

How does it feel to be inspiring Canadians and inspiring similar freedom movements and protests all over the world?

Yes, it is a nice feeling. It is great to inspire people, but sometimes it’s also hard when I get emails and calls from people telling me about what these mandates have done to them, the damage, and what it has done to the people they love over the past two years. That’s really hard. But it has been so busy that I don’t have a lot of time to think about it or talk about it.

Can you give us an idea of what’s next?

Obviously, I can’t get into details, but I can assure you that we are very well prepared. We have very comprehensive plans for accelerating our campaign and the Trudeau government will be politically challenged if it continues on its current path. This will continue to be a public relations disaster for the government.

Thank you so much for speaking with me today. When the videos of the convoy started coming up, I felt the first signs of hope in almost two years of this tyranny and I know I’m not alone. So many of them have made me cry with gratitude, relief and resolve. Please convey to the truckers and all the supporters on the ground how grateful I am personally, and on behalf of all the Canadians from coast to coast standing with you to reclaim our freedoms and liberty.

Thank you.

N.B: At press time, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has announced an end to vaccine mandates and passports, Alberta’s Premier Jason Kenney is expected to make an announcement about mandates toward the end of the business day and a Liberal Member of Parliament from the Trudeau’s government has broken ranks and gone public for a road map to ending mandates and full disclosure from government on the scientific data behind maintaining restrictions.

Author

Laura Rosen Cohen
Laura Rosen Cohen is a Toronto writer. Her work has been featured in The Toronto Star, The Globe and Mail, National Post, The Jerusalem Post, The Jerusalem Report, The Canadian Jewish News and Newsweek among others. She is a special needs parent and also a columnist and the official In House Jewish Mother of internationally best-selling author Mark Steyn at SteynOnline.com
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Wow! This is gold! And hot off the press, too!

Things are really shaking up politically on Parliament Hill. As was mentioned in the article, a Liberal Minister of Parliament (and not a greenhorn, either) has broken ranks and criticized Trudeau for dividing the country and not having a plan. Trudeau will surely boot him out of the party (in Canadian politics, party loyalty is supposed to trump one's conscience). Meanwhile numerous Conservative Ministers absolutely hammered Trudeau (who showed up in person for a change). The amazing thing is that at one point, in response to a Conservative member asking Trudeau 'what's the plan for ending the mandates?', the Prime Minister simply walked out of the House of Commons while it was in session. Absolutely breathtaking! (maybe he has a case of long-pretend-Covid)

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More anecdata: The sole childhood friend who communicates with me regularly (other friends having quit due to my "anti-vaxx and anti-Covid restriction" stances) just contracted Covid and is having a rough time. He just got his booster recently. He said he's glad he got Covid to "get it out of the way." There are a lot of topics we don't discuss in order to keep the peace, but I fail to understand his position on this one. I'm hoping he gets well soon, but I have real concerns due to a brief visionary experience I had awhile back. I'm hoping it was astral static or just my fears manifesting in a visual form.

I'm no longer as concerned about vaccine mandates and the like, and I think a lot of restrictions may start dropping here in the USA at least. All the same, I have started feeling like we are in a sort of calm before a storm. Praying for the Canadian Truckers and people standing up for freedom all over the world, and hoping for the best.

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Date: 2022-02-09 12:03 am (UTC)
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>got his booster recently.

>to "get it out of the way.

Oof.

-Bofur

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Science and hubris

Date: 2022-02-08 09:42 pm (UTC)
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Nick Farrell has posted an interesting piece on the hubris of the scientific establishment and the status of science reduced to a faith. Nothing new for your readers, JMG, but Farrell expands on the subject giving his point of view about the limits of what magic can achieve and on the fallibility of the gods.

I'll post the link for those interested: https://www.nickfarrell.it/science-and-hubris/

Which wolf will you feed?

Date: 2022-02-08 10:07 pm (UTC)
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Took my wife for her second shot today. Was just as angry as the first but weighted down with a lot more sorrow. She didn't want it but felt that she had to. I hate having to aid and abet my wife in what I consider to be the worst decision in her life. We have such young children... my blood boils but it's done. It was a bright, sunny day but all too warm for the northern climes. Heavy traffic to the clinic... A big stupid sign on check-in that read 'Let's Crush Covid.' I would have preferred 'Let's Go Brandon' but let's be real, the mania is so thick right now, fever pitch and in that state, all I can think is the fable I came across many years ago. Two wolves, one all the worst and the other all the best, and I the unwitting or willing caretaker of both. And to JMG's opening statement, I wonder if all the good will in my heart could really affect anything to the better, rage is so much stronger right now. That horrid wolf is well feed but still so hungry. My striving for something better is why I come here week after week but it feels very dark just about now.

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Deep breath brother. Keep breathing deep breaths. The sun will shine again.

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