Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 24

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Unless you are an experienced winter camper, do not attempt anything like hiking and camping in the boarder regions. Even in the summer. There's a reason why this is the longest unfortified border in the world, and it isn't because Canadians and Americans are so nice (though that doesn't hurt). It's because Mother Nature takes care of vast swathes of it without humans getting involved.
I understand there are similar problems regularly with folks trying to hike across the southern US border. It just doesn't get as much media attention: the numbers are in the statistics rather than tragedy range.
Nature isn't nearly as nice as represented. You can handle camping and hiking in those areas, if you are physically fit, have the right equipment, training, and experience. Otherwise, please don't try it.

BoysMom (who has lived near the northern boarder and done winter camping)

[(Anonymous)]

Also, any trail near the border will be patrolled; so anyone trying to get across the border will need to know where they are going, get a long distance away from any path going near the border, and can navigate in wilderness, you will get lost.

So trying to cross the border illegally is a completely insane idea.

[hearthspirit]

They'll nail him to the wall for the media attention though. Human trafficking families doesn't get the attention it always deserves with the mere southern statistics, but this oughta do it.

The ironic part, really, is that this all went down between the two main historic communities of the Métis that was divided in half and arbitrarily assigned "American" and "Canadian". Pembina was the southern half of the Red River community, the base of the summer buffalo hunt, and the route between the two was the first north-south trading centre west of the Missisippi between what would become the two nations - via, of course the "halfbreed" Métis nation. Obviously, they used to cross this region all the time (not usually during the winter of course, but being exceptionally tough campers, they could hack it), as did their indigenous parent stock before that.

Once the border went in, Canada went about giving out scrip and exterminating Status for Métis trapped on this side, and the US declared that there was no such thing as a halfbreed, you were either white, or Indian, or not actually human at all - with somewhat upsetting !but educational! -consequences for those of us with grandparents buried on that side who were rather unceremoniously unburied with a plow.

I feel like there's some sort of meta-statement about this, but I just can't put my finger on it.