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Astrology edge cases
Date: 2021-12-13 10:20 am (UTC)What is the usual way to deal with this problem? Would I just read the charts from both ends of the time period and pick the one that seems to fit better? Do they average out? Or is there some general rule about edge cases, that when something is right on the edge of two areas in the chart, it counts for both, or always for the clockwise one, or something else?
Re: Astrology edge cases
Date: 2021-12-13 05:38 pm (UTC)Re: Astrology edge cases
Date: 2021-12-13 08:04 pm (UTC)Re: Astrology edge cases
Date: 2021-12-13 11:17 pm (UTC)1) Use the approximate time of the birth (e.g., morning or evening or night) to determine the Moon sign;
2) Count thirty-nine weeks earlier than that to find the date of conception (or use the date of conception from the parents... they might know it ... ahem ... intimately).
3) Make the chart for the day of conception, and put the Ascendant in the same sign that is the *Sign of the Moon in the birth chart*;
3a) There's a fudge factor here: it can be the sign of the Moon, or the sign opposite the Moon (if the person knows, for example, that they were born in the daytime or at night time... this allows for roughly 12 hours of difference to get the right time of day if it's known);
4) The sign that the Moon is in, in the conception chart, is the sign of the Ascendant in the birth chart.
5) The degree (and minute) of the Moon in the conception chart, is the degree and minute of the Ascendant in the birth chart.
Now... I have run this procedure for the charts of five or six of my friends with known birth times, and found that it accurately predicts the birth degree within about three degrees — that is, it's good for people with middle-of-sign births, but not people who are born very close to the change-over from one Ascendant sign to another. The Moon moves just a little more than 12° 53', or 12.88°, or 773' (minutes) per day — or about 32-33' minutes, half a degree, per hour. So, roughly 2/3s of the days in any month, the Moon will be in a particular sign, and only that particular sign on the day of your birth... there's a lot of wiggle room there. But when you make the Moon sign of your birth chart into the Ascendant of your conception sign, there's considerably less wiggle room, and you may be able to narrow your chart down to a specific 2-4° range using this method.
I have asked Christopher Warnock and some other astrologers about this method, with mixed results. The more traditional astrologers regard this as guesswork and adding additional layers of fudge-factors and wobble room to an already imprecise process when you have an accurate birth time. Others feel that it's nice to be in the right range of time, even if you can't get it exactly; and that it's nice to have a historically attested process to follow even if you know it yields only guesswork. And it's worth saying that I now have guidance from some astrologers and astrological enthusiasts that anything involving in vitro fertilization, or premature births, yield wildly inaccurate results.
William Lilly himself says that the method is better than chance and worse than an accurate birth time. This is what I've found in the (two) consultations I've done using this method.
I hope this helps.
Under stars,
Andrew Watt
Re: Astrology edge cases
Date: 2021-12-14 12:12 am (UTC)