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worried conversationThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as we watch people who used to question the honesty of giant corporations fall all over themselves to insist that every word Big Pharma flacks utter is the unquestionable truth, and reports of harmful and fatal side effects from the vaccines mount up to unprecedented levels, the floor is open for discussion. 
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"This package, which is an extension of current mandates, grants Inslee the ability to enforce COVID vaccine mandates on all private businesses in the state of Washington and extends Inslee's emergency powers."

https://thepostmillennial.com/inslee-to-mandate-covid-vaccination-for-private-businesses/

I guess this is coming to all PMC-dominated towns and states eventually.
From: (Anonymous)
1. I don't expect this to ultimately go anywhere. My gut tells me we are past peak-mandate at this point, as the wheels continue to fall off the mainstream narrative (via vx failures and side effects plus Fauci experiment revelations).

2. I am baffled that so many mandates up to this point have been upheld by courts, including SCOTUS. To me, that is the more concerning part of this covid hysteria - the loss of any reasonable set of checks and balances across the three branches of government. When in the course of human events . . .

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From: [personal profile] seanbolger1
Noam chomsky is calling for the unvaxed to be segregated from society. Its very disappointing, I have followed his writings all my life and can't believe he would belive that. Here's the link for those of you who watch video.
https://youtu.be/WOl6VQVsNaQ
I still feel like something is going to break soon, there is a lot of pushback here in the UK and the vax passport appears to be failing in Scotland. Hopefully something big will change by Christmas.
Kind regards
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The following document, posted on the John Hopkins website in Oct, 2017 gives a good idea of what is in store.

Direct link to pdf document is here -

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2017/spars-pandemic-scenario.pdf


JHU website is here -

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/2017/the-spars-pandemic-a-futuristic-scenario-for-public-health-risk-communicators


My summary -

They game-planned everything including emergency approval of vaccine despite safety concerns, giving vaccine companies liability shield, how to lie about vaccine adverse effects, controlling digital platforms and so on. You will be shocked to know how much they planned.
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, that SPARS document is really shocking in how closely it parallels what happened in reality. Did they just plan exceedingly well? Call me skeptical. The longer this goes on, the more I come to believe that passports were the point of it all from the outset. To what end? We will see I guess.

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Date: 2021-10-26 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is anyone else watching the push to vaccinate the 5-11 year old age group with serious dread? If these shots cause even just the same number of incidents for children (and as a near universal rule, it's worse with children), this will be a lot of dead children, and an even larger number seriously injured. This is just the short term effects too: we have no idea what the long term effects might be.

This cannot end well....

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Date: 2021-10-26 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes. Beyond the health consequences of the poor, unfortunate children who get used as guinea pigs in this medical experiment, I fear for the psychological/developmental effects and the lessons learned by all the children growing up in a world where they are constantly told to fear a phantom disease, stay away from people, don't see many human faces... When the surviving members of this generation grow up and become the adults of the world, gods help us.

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Possible Fox-Related Fetal Defects?

Date: 2021-10-26 06:40 pm (UTC)
methylethyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] methylethyl
This crossed my newsfeed this morning:

https://twitter.com/Dr_ScottMc/status/1450747846970548226

Just a rumor at this point, but a possible, maybe, might be, (or maybe just coincidence or bad info) a statistically very high cluster of maybe allegedly fox-related pulmonary haemmorhage in neonates. I've been keeping an eye out for something like it (and will continue to do so, because I have no idea who this guy is, or if his info is any good) because AFAICT we started foxing pregnant women around late spring, so the crop of babies born to women who were foxed in early pregnancy should start showing up now, and continue into next year. At this point, that's an isolated, unsubstantiated datapoint. So it's just... I'm screenshotting it and keeping an eye out for reports like it, trying to find out if there's anything to be concerned about there.

Cautions and caveats and not leaping to conclusions on too little data, etc.
Edited Date: 2021-10-27 04:45 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2021-10-27 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You know, at some point the experiemnts being conducted here will go way way WAY past anything Nazi Germany did or even dreamed of doing.

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Authorization to supply or administer a poison

Date: 2021-10-26 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is directly from the website of West Australia government -

https://www.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-05/210305-Authorisation-to-supply-administer-COVID-vaccine-No2-Aus-Defence-Force.pdf

INSTRUMENT OF AUTHORISATION
AUTHORISATION TO SUPPLY OR ADMINISTER A POISON
[SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) VACCINE -AUSTRALIAN DEFENCE FORCE]
(No. 2) 2021

1. ! , Dr Andrew Robertson, Chief Health Officer (WA), acting pursuant to sections 197
and 198 of the Public Health Act 2016 (WA) [the Act] that gives power, for the
purposes of emergency management during a public health state of emergency, to
authorise a person to supply or administer a poison, hereby authorise the person( s)
occupying the class of position in Column 1 of the attached Schedule to perform
the statutory functions in Column 2 of the attached Schedule, subject to the
conditions, limitations or restrictions (if any) set out in Column 3 of the attached
Schedule.
From: (Anonymous)
Firstly, the State is called Western Australia.
More importantly, in legal terminology, all medicines are considered 'poisons' under the Poisons Standard. It's just a catagorisation and a reflection on this or any other vaccine.
After all, "die Dosis macht das Gift."

Follow the Money

Date: 2021-10-26 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As the health data is often convoluted, it might be interesting to look at the financial data. I took a look at Pfizers and Mercks second quarter report of 2021.

As expected Pfizer realized a huge increase in turnover. Besides the vax, they also make extra profit from sales of Vyndaqel/Vyndamax (for the treatment of Myocardiopathy) up +77% compared to Q2 2020 and Eliquis (for the treatment of blood clots) up +13%. Also an increase in the sales of various anti-cancer medicine. I leave it up to the commentariat to draw their conclusions… Source https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2021/PFIZER-REPORTS-SECOND-QUARTER-2021-RESULTS/default.aspx

Merck also reported a significant rise in oncological drugs and cardiovascular drugs (see pages 35 and 39 in https://s21.q4cdn.com/488056881/files/doc_financials/2021/q2/4b66a8e8-a34a-46dc-9f20-61b6ea11caed.pdf)

The Q3 reports should be released in a few days, before the end of the month. Considering all the evidence we have seen here, it wouldn't surpise me to see continued high demand for drugs for cardiovascular problems, myocarditis, bloodclots and possibly cancer.

Boccaccio

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From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for this !

Sapienter Si Sincere

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Date: 2021-10-26 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Apparently the Toronto Zoo is planning to vaccinate their animals now. Dear gods this just keeps getting weirder.

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/toronto-zoo-aiming-to-vaccinate-animals-against-covid-19

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Date: 2021-10-26 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Aren’t you aware that Penguin Flu is the greatest existential threat we’ve ever faced?! We narrowly avoided catastrophe with Zebra flu and literally tens of people were killed when Okapi fever broke out!

If these creatures didn’t consent to a vaccine they wouldn’t have put themselves in those cages!

We’ve already started a campaign of shunning the meerkats due to their strong anti-vax statements. We’re also thinking about putting the Pandas on notice if they don’t start to play ball with our mandates!

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A few data points from Europe

Date: 2021-10-26 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In Germany there was a sudden huge increase (more than 50%) in emergency admittance into 5 hospitals in late April/ early May 2021 for both cardiovascular and neurological issues. Most worryingly the high levels have stayed almost the same till now. See the last two graphs in https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/8877/SitRep_de_2021-10-20.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y The data is from the Robert Koch institute. This sudden jump is stunning. It coincides (with a few weeks delay) with the moment the vaccination campaign started to speed up (See https://impfdashboard.de/ under “Impf-forschritt”)


The situation in the Netherlands is deteriorating too. The government has announced that they “consider” implementing new measures only for the unvaxxed, following the example of Austria. The panic is enthousiastically fueled by the health minister and the MSM. Although the country has 39,900 hospital beds and Corvid patients occupy about 700, the surge in Covid is still blamed for the shortage in hospital beds. And of course the unvaxxed are the reason Covid is still around.

The Dutch health institute RIVM has declared that 80% of the hospitalized Covid patients are unvaxxed. This number makes no sense: in neighbouring Belgium it is 45% and in the UK it is about 30%, while the countries have comparable vaccination rates. A few hospital CEO’s have stated publicly that in their ghospital the vaccinated are in the majority, but other doctors second the RIVM statement. For people who do not follow and double check the news daily, it is impossible to figure out what is true and what is false. Some days it feels like I'm in a bad dream, with so many intelligent people seemingly not abble anymore to think straight.

Boccaccio

Re: A few data points from Europe

Date: 2021-10-26 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Somehow similar

Title: ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients — but many don't even have COVID

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid "Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic [...]

"Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others."

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Thank you

Date: 2021-10-26 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear John Michael Greer,

Thank you for hosting this forum. It has helped me so very much in these difficult weeks. And I am confident that it has helped many, many other people as well.

Thank you also to all who have commented here.

Cetiosaurus

Re: Thank you

Date: 2021-10-27 10:52 am (UTC)
sinners4diseasecontrol: Photo by husband atop Mt. Shirouma at dawn (Default)
From: [personal profile] sinners4diseasecontrol
I will add my thanks here too. Whether it is the good news thread or the bad news thread, it is so comforting not to have to face this alone. There are a lot of good sane people out there, mostly wisely keeping a low profile as the insanity around us crescendos.
I try to keep the number of my posts down, as I know John is really busy, but on the other hand, I am grateful to everyone posting here.

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New roots

Date: 2021-10-26 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just wanted to say, how sad it is to see what is going on in the world.

And to say that I think a lot of people are being a bit rocked around and opening back up to their own feet again.

So I would guess that a fertile time for new philosophies and belief systems is coming.

Just a wee light of hope for darker days.

The TCM concept of blood stasis

Date: 2021-10-26 07:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
I do not want to speak in too much detail, but having read a great deal about the clinical pictures arising from severe manifestations of Covid disease, as well as of severe sequela to foxing, it seems to me - and I am beginning to confirm in practice - that a great deal of clinical good can be done by people trained in TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) who employ the TCM framework of "blood stasis" when examining patients and designing treatments.

If you are a trained TCM herbalist or practitioner, I believe there is a great deal that can be usefully applied to current clinical pictures, from the following two reference works.
1) For general theory, and specific advice on constructing herbal treatment protocols - "Aging and Blood Stasis", Yan De-Xin, Blue Poppy Press, 1995.
2) For general theory, and specific advice on constructing acupuncture treatment protocols - "Pricking the Vessels", Henry McCann, Singing Dragon Press, 2014.

If you are a regular person looking for relevant treatment, and have a TCM practitioner near you, or are already attending one, it might be useful to ask if they are accustomed to examining severe Covid disease and/or post-fox damage through the TCM lens of "blood stasis", or if it is something they might consider.

I am not free to share case histories here, but I will say I have reason to believe this is a very useful avenue to be followed at present. For anyone interested.


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Shared this on the last open post but kinda late, so I'm sharing again.

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/ten-red-flags-in-the-fdas-risk-benefit

I also found a report about scientists suing the FDA for release of their data. Not sure if that's been posted before

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/scientists-sue-the-fda-for-data-it

Immune Equilibrium from Unglossed

Date: 2021-10-26 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hey JMG, I was writing a post in reply to Mark's post last week as you started this new Open Covid Post and I think it got lost. I think this theory is worth being widely read, as it basically disarms all germ-theory 'us vs them' medical / public health arguments, and at the same time is one of those scientific descriptions that helps to place us within the world and biosphere instead of continuing the war upon Nature and therefore, ourselves. I could even see it belonging in the 'good news' area.

Thanks to Mark for linking to unlgossed in the last open post. Brian's theory of Immune Equilibrium is incredibly interesting, and I think there are a lot of ways where it or some future modification of the theory could be applied widely in ecology and evolutionary biology. For now its applications to getting us out of the current insanity in both medicine and public health would be immense.

https://unglossed.substack.com/p/burned-all-my-notebooks

The first paragraph is below.

Equilibrium

Viruses are a part of us, and vice-versa.

There is no meaningful distinction between the endogenous and viral, exogenous component of the genome of humans or other species; together they make up the super-genome for every organism or colony of that species. All species-specific, endogenous genomic elements whose phenotypes are “exploitable” by viruses are equally validly explained as elements designed to better sustain a rich virome, improving the odds of competent horizontal gene transfer in general and enabling calibration of likelihood of horizontal gene transfer according to environmental and stress stimuli. Thus, the immune system of any given species for which there is a virome (likely all multicellular life at least) does not and cannot favor the survival of one component of the super-genome - endogenous or viral - over the other.



-Levi



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Date: 2021-10-27 10:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
I, too, read and loved this unglossed post. The main gist that I got (lots of the detail takes focussed attention to follow), is that, if you use JMG phrasing, he is essentially proposing that a "participation" immune system model explains a number of phenomena much better than the prevailing "control" immune system model.

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Hypothesis stage 10 and beyond

Date: 2021-10-26 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
To JMG and all:
I was reviewing JMG's hypothesis again, especially stage 10, because Stage 10, Hoping for a Miracle was "what's coming up next" when we started this discussion twelve or so weeks ago.
Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) was part of stage 10. I have been seeing vaccinated people get colds and flu lately, but nobody seems to be dropping dead of the colds and flu. Of course, it is not winter here yet.
What vaccinated people seem to be dropping dead from are heart attacks, strokes, and cancer. That leads me to my first comment. Maybe stage 10 will not be all about ADE. Maybe Stage 10 will last for 5 years or more and it will be about ever increasing cardiovascular problems and cancer. I say that with a lot of sadness because I would rather people I love did not die prematurely from any of the above. But it took 6 years or more for Vioxx to be pulled off the market and a lot of people died before that happened. Based on what I am seeing, maybe these "vaccines" will have a similar time to be exposed as killers. I would appreciate opinions about whether it looks like Stage 10 will be something that lasts years -- until everyone wakes up to the fact that the vaccines caused their immune systems to become deranged (so, cancer) and/or caused clotting (so, cardiovascular problems).

Second comment is that blaming the unvaccinated and punishing them with everything at their disposal looks to be moving into VERY high gear. That Walensky woman was taking about counseling and reeducation for people who refused vaccination. And, as someone has already commented, Chomsky might as well have advocated for concentration camps for the unvaccinated. Any comments on how close we are in the USA to something more draconian for the unvaccinated and what the reaction might be?

Where I am right now, in a very blue place, masks are recommended but not mandated most places and no one is checking vaccine cards except at white collar workplaces and a few entertainment venues. So white collar work is not open to the unvaccinated, and neither is live entertainment, but there are plenty of retail and food service jobs, restaurants and movie theaters where no one asks your vaccination status. I guess if I lived in Florida or Texas, I would not be concerned with this issue. I have been looking to move...

Re: Hypothesis stage 10 and beyond

Date: 2021-10-26 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mitchell2
My hunch is this is not a message for the unfoxed so much, although it clearly is to some extent. Of greater significance is the push to foxinate children, which is a wrong, an order of magnitude higher, if that was possible. Separately, the booster is around the corner for the outfoxed. Maximize propaganda in the run up to the booster phase. The pressure on the unfoxed will by definition be applied to the outfoxed, and we all know that is going to be a funny time. That is when the narrative is most at risk of being lost. I've heard some people say that everyone has taken a side already. I disagree - I have a lot of outfoxed friends who are determined not to let it happen again. The lines will be drawn after the booster phase.

Could it be that the booster rollout is being delayed because to do so now, like it was split tested in Israel, would be catastrophic for the narrative. The results of the split test were not good apparently. There were lots of protests, and I'm finding it hard to get up to date numbers - but it seems like it is 50%. From a sociopathic business perspective, it seems good sense to castigate the unfoxed, and jab as many kids and outfoxed as possible, and to do so quickly before the narrative falls apart, or before branch foxians start screaming too loudly for their next dose, because, you know, it wears off. At the same time it shouldn't be done too quickly, because the unfoxed still have a voice. Its all a balancing act.

Of note - I dont think its good to lie in wait of the narrative falling apart tomorrow, there might be agood bit left in it, or it might not fade in a collapse manner at all.
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Not Covid but sicker than ever...

Date: 2021-10-26 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
More evidence that the vex creates tolerance instead of immunity? The following link is from Neoliberal Public Radio and of course deliberately clueless as to the possible correlation.

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid

quote from article:
"Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others."

Hmm, apart from suicide attempts, those conditions sound exactly like what you'd expect in this situation.

Re: Not Covid but sicker than ever...

Date: 2021-10-27 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
and now you cannot exclude suicide attempts as a covid/vaccine problem -

https://insiderpaper.com/mild-covid-triggered-suicidal-thoughts-3-teenagers-us/

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When is this ending

Date: 2021-10-26 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When did those in touch with higher planes and do on day that this would all peak? I'm so exhausted by the narratives that make no sense.

From NSW health in Australia:
"Natural immunity vs vaccine immunity. Is there a difference?

COVID-19 vaccination gives most people effective and long lasting immunity, which may be stronger than immunity from infection.

Natural immunity varies between people depending on severity of illness and other factors, however vaccination gives most people a strong immune response.

Being vaccinated will also protect you against variants. People who have recovered from COVID-19 might not have the same level of protection as the variant could be different to the strain of COVID-19 they were infected with.

Vaccination gives a “boost” to natural immunity that can help give long-lasting strong protection.

If you’ve recovered from COVID-19, there’s no need to delay your vaccination. Speak to your doctor about your individual circumstances.

More information: https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/connect-coronavirus-public-engagement-resources/covid-immunity-natural-infection-vaccine"

Re: When is this ending

Date: 2021-10-27 11:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sinners4diseasecontrol
Somehow I am reminded of cigarette ads in the 60s.

Eugyppius on Original Antigenic Sin

Date: 2021-10-26 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/more-on-original-antigenic-sin-and

Basically, OAS is likely occurring and will continue to occur, but it also happens with the flu and flu vaccines, the result being that flu vaccines only appear to be effective if you measure effectiveness in a biased way.

Mark L

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Date: 2021-10-26 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] emilyknapstad
Can you give us the ballpark of hospitalizations / deaths?

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Date: 2021-10-26 08:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stcathalexandria
JMG -

Would you be wiling to share more about what changed for you to open up the discussion here? What were the signs for you that our predicament had shifted to the point you want to commit more energy to it?

For me it was when the masks got put back on vaccinated people end of July/beginning of August. I really thought vaccination was the off ramp for the hysteria and the testing would be adjusted to make Covid go away as vaccines rolled out.

Thank you for the time you've dedicated to this for us all to share!

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Hooray for lockdowns

Date: 2021-10-26 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The propaganda machine is in full swing here. A David Attenborough narrated hagiography of lockdowns full of sweeping orchestral music and pictures of cute animals. As somebody who lives in a city that has been locked down for almost a full year (curfews, travel limits, the whole works) this makes me wanna throw up.

https://tv.apple.com/au/movie/the-year-earth-changed/umc.cmc.3fob3t7nfhehpb3ilgynzxmnu

Re: Hooray for lockdowns

Date: 2021-10-28 07:14 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hilarious! As soon as the BBC pull David Attenborough on you, that's when you know you're about to get slapped with some hard propaganda. He's like the nuclear option.

- Triplet

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Date: 2021-10-26 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] emilyknapstad
Fda just approved vaccine for 5-11 years olds oh and
MORE - Dr. Ruben on the FDA panel: "We're never gonna learn about how safe the vaccine is until we start giving it. That's the way it goes."

https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1453101825402576899

Btw besides the beagles he tortured he also experimented on orphans in new york

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/wasnt-just-beagles-monkeys-faucis-nih-also-funded-medical-experiments-aids-orphans-ny-city/


This man is evil incarnate .

I want off this ride .

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Date: 2021-10-27 12:53 pm (UTC)
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I wonder if he's giving it to his own children

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Date: 2021-10-26 10:17 pm (UTC)
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At some point I think we are going to need to establish an unvaccinated mutual support league to offer some help to people being thrown into poverty by these mandates.

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No need for a secret handshake

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Date: 2021-10-26 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kashtan
Geert Vanden Bossche has made a short-term prediction regarding Israeli case numbers.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/what-happens-if-israel-fails-the-stress-test

I've been following him since the spring, and most of his predictions haven't involved a time frame. He did say a month or so ago something to the effect that we won't get through the winter without immune-evading strains that are more deadly for the vaccinated emerging, but here we have an even shorter term prediction, one we should know if it comes to pass by the end of the year. See the chart toward the end of the page.

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Date: 2021-10-27 12:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Haven't read this yet but Berenson had an article on his substack today about a new variant that completely evades the vaccine. https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/a-vaccine-evading-variant-is-here/comments

No telling whether it gains dominance and whether it'll be more deadly or produce ADE. Consider, however, that just completely evading the vaccine could end up looking like ADE if the vaccine has compromised immunity or if there is an OAS effect in place and if you assume that more unvaxxed have developed immunity.

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Waves

Date: 2021-10-26 10:30 pm (UTC)
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We Brits love our data. As biased as the BBC are, they still provide it daily on this helpful page:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

An interesting thing I've noticed recently is that if you look at the map of the UK with case numbers (the one that is mostly red, with some burgundy), this map basically changes in waves on approximately a monthly basis. The areas that are currently burgundy were orange/yellow a few weeks ago, while the rest of the country was burgundy, and so on. In January, everything went red/burgundy all at once, then practically dropped to zero in May/June until about July time (guess what ramped up a gear in July?), when things went exponential fast (blamed on Delta). What this screams to me is the OAS hypothesis mentioned here before - people are now getting repeat infections over and over again, presumably as they are not producing N antibodies. They may not get quite as ill/be hospitalised/die if the vixens are indeed working as stated, but repeatedly harbouring moderate levels of infection and just barely keeping it at bay can't be good for you over the long term, surely?

Another good graph to look at is the excess death one near the end of the page. Notice how much the non-corona deaths are creeping up? (Ignore the weird dip, it's a national holiday, or as we call them, bank holiday, reporting quirk)

Also, the flu has recently hit my office *hard*. It's like the Mary Celeste at the moment.

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Date: 2021-10-28 03:42 pm (UTC)
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The Flu? On the comeback tour after missing 2020 completely?

Are staff saying it must be flu because they all got vaccinated?

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Date: 2021-10-27 12:23 am (UTC)
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Uh oh. The people in this week's pic are all stressed out again. Last week they seemed to be doing so much better. Poor things!

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Date: 2021-10-27 01:33 pm (UTC)
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I thought they looked like they were all suffering hangovers from overdoing it at last night's office party, lol.

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