Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 10
Oct. 12th, 2021 01:11 pm
The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, as we watch the reports of fatal and crippling side effects of the vaccines mount up, and more and more of the vaccinated report suffering from "the worst cold ever," the floor is open for discussion.
***Update***: Over the last day I've received attempted comments by people trying to derail the discussion here by dragging in various pet issues from conspiracy culture, including 9/11 and the Apollo moon landings. I understand that other forums skeptical of the Covid vaccines are getting the same treatment, and, ahem, it's one of the standard gimmicks that rent-a-trolls use to disrupt online conversations they don't like. I am therefore enacting a zero tolerance policy for such things. Anyone who tries to post something on a conspiracy-theory theme unrelated to the virus panic will be banned permanently from this forum, full stop, end of sentence. 'Nuf said.
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:27 pm (UTC)https://www.skirsch.com/covid/All.pdf
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:45 pm (UTC)Still all about how effective the vaccines are here in the UK and European news this week - this French 'close to government' study out yesterday and widely being reported on - 90% effective vaccines, everything's coming up roses, you get the picture:
https://www.epi-phare.fr/rapports-detudes-et-publications/impact-vaccination-covid-octobre-2021/
However, arguably, this is all falling in the news agenda right now here as supply chain difficulties and higher energy costs increasingly cast a shadow over the impending European winter. Petrol prices near me up 4p a litre in less than a week! (3% rise - if that continued for a year that'd be 150%+ increase.)
All making for a decidedly shaky time if the main narrative starts to look unsupportable.
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:27 pm (UTC)https://www.rt.com/usa/537203-fauci-documentary-rotten-tomatoes/
Critics rate it 91%
Viewers rate it 2%
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fauci
Ah, the gap between the official position and public sentiment.
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:29 pm (UTC)and more important perhaps is everyone doing ok !? I have three children and I don't want any of them to get this treatment. I feel significantly more supported since these posts started in that the cognitive dissonance is being eased.
Are people feeling strong in being able to oppose treatment especially mandatory treatment?
Love to you all through this
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Date: 2021-10-12 07:25 pm (UTC)I also think being ostracized and having your reputation trashed for a perfectly reasonable thing like "I have doubts about this experimental medical treatment and do not wish to be a test subject" will make at least a few perfectly reasonable people willing to give the flat-earthers and chemtrail folks a fair hearing. Because now we're all in this together: why not?
Weird times make strange bedfellows.
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:35 pm (UTC)I dont think that it's going to be Fauci or anyone in the political realm, but they most certainly will be tossed right into the fire before more chaos ensues.
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Date: 2021-10-12 07:34 pm (UTC)Have you seen the latest from Loudon County?
What is the latest from Loudoun County
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:38 pm (UTC)It does seem like we're in roughly stage 10 of your initial prediction so hats off to your foresight. If you'd told me ten years ago that an archdruid would be my go to oracle, I would have laughed myself out the door.
While the Osha mandate seems dead in the water, a number of important deadlines are coming due for the military, federal workers, pilots etc. Taking into account your's and Kim's readings of the mext 60 days, it feels like stage 11 will happen within this timeframe. Just look on how the press has had to spin the latest issues with airline pilots which certainly seems mandate related and not any bad weather. If they won't admit that blatant cause and effect, there's no way official channels will acknowledge widespread internal resistance and will simply, on paper, say everyone is vaccinated and we're all good.
The supply chain is looking even shakier this week. Definite limited shelves on the major retailers. I went into a Walgreens recently and the glass freezer doors had been replaced by lcd screens advertising the goods inside the freezer. But once you opened the door, 90% of the items were out of stock.
Also, it seems like Europe will have major energy and material goods this year. If ADE is a real thing, which it certsinly seems, then a cold winter + non reliable energy infrastructure is a bad combo for public health (very in keeping with that november lunar eclipse astrology you pointed out).
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:05 pm (UTC)https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c839be9-a966-49e8-b656-3eabd5c29c82_671x641.png
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:22 pm (UTC)https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/311703
Has to be refreshed every 6 months.
https://news.yahoo.com/israels-vaccine-pass-expire-6-102521992.html
Guess that's old news for most here
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:41 pm (UTC)Discussions are underway about requiring vaccinations to attend services.
I'm one of very few people who have chosen not to get the vaccine, first out of caution about unknown long-term consequences, and now out of concern about demonstrable dangers both to myself and others.
There will be soon be some discussions about the mandating vaccines. I'm not optimistic. (Though there is at least a small number of respected people who aren't completely in favor of a mandate.)
Those in favor depend on the assumption that vaccinated=safe. I need some citations of high-quality studies that document high viral loads and transmission of the virus from the vaccinated. Peer reviewed papers would be best. I am certain that videos from anything likely to be dismissed as a "right-wing conspiracy site" will be dismissed without even a click. Thanks for any specific suggestions.
All I have so far is one from the Lancet on Vietnamese healthcare workers, high viral loads, and transmission from vaccinated staff. Thanks for any more specific citations.
Donkey Oatey
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:08 pm (UTC)Edit - I couldnt find the link from wang hongwei's statement from last week - maybe it has been de-googled
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From:Playing Both Sides
Date: 2021-10-12 05:45 pm (UTC)As I've mentioned before, I got vaccinated earlier this year; I felt the sort of "It's OK, just do it" feeling that made the concern others were having at the time seem silly. I've recently found myself despairing over the possibility that this may lead to my death. If that sounds reasonable, consider that I have health conditions that pretty much guarantee that if there is a massive die-off due to the vaccines, I'll be one of the casualties no matter what. Moreover, the feeling is clearly interfering with my connection to the divine and dragging me away from the light.
My point is, despite everything that's going on, I think it's important we not let our fear overcome our virtues. Don't let the demons get more than they've already been given.
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:52 pm (UTC)https://www.bitchute.com/video/4JQpNrnLLX97/
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Date: 2021-10-12 05:55 pm (UTC)1) The Globe and Mail published an article yesterday about the waning effectiveness of the vaccines:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-covid-19-outbreak-in-bc-indigenous-community-fuels-concerns-over/
It's notable because it is a mainstream source of Canadian news. It's behind a paywall, but a choice quote:
"Ahousaht Chief Councillor Greg Louie helped set the tone by being first in line to receive his vaccine. He says 92 per cent of eligible community members got their first shot during that January clinic, after public-health officials ran information sessions. Most residents returned for their second shot four weeks later. (The province later increased the recommended interval, based on clinical trials that concluded that getting the second dose six to eight weeks after the first may provide stronger protection.)
Now, eight months on, First Nations health officials are concerned the protection offered by the vaccine is fading, just as the more dangerous Delta variant is spreading. Since Sept. 4, there have been more than 50 cases of COVID-19 in Maaqtusiis, involving five households, with additional cases among Ahousaht members living off-reserve. A breakdown of how many cases required hospitalization was not provided.
“We have seen higher rates of COVID among fully vaccinated individuals – as high as three times the rate among the general B.C. population,” said Dr. Shannon McDonald, acting chief medical officer for the provincial First Nations Health Authority (FNHA)."
2) Here in Nova Scotia, the Halifax Examiner today published what amounts to be a victory lap for the vaccines and the recently imposed vaccine mandates (which started on October 4th):
https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/featured/in-nova-scotia-unvaccinated-people-are-being-hospitalized-with-covid-at-50-times-the-rate-of-fully-vaccinated-people/
Shouldn't be behind a paywall. As I wrote last week, most Nova Scotians got their vaccines throughout the summer, so they're at their peak effectiveness. No mention of what may happen as the vaccines effectiveness starts to decline... Includes some data about recent cases as well.
Fauci in The Hall of the Mountain King
Date: 2021-10-12 06:50 pm (UTC)https://youtu.be/TSZMtSPX3iE
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:10 pm (UTC)tl;dr: School goes on full lockdown when unmasked honors student Grace Smith attempts to attend school.
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(today) NYT, one of the loudest pushers of pro-vax propaganda, lets a post through that admits kids get near-zero benefit from the jab.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/20-months-in-the-new-york-times-one/
Anyone else feel a long-awaited change in the air?
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:25 pm (UTC)According to your hypothesis of August, is the world still at stage 9 or is it edging towards stage 10? You may comment only about the US situation if you wish.
Thanks!
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:28 pm (UTC)It's one thing to remain silent because you haven't seen evidence it works, but after using it yourself, continuing the narrative is criminal. Revolting.
"According to Dr Pierre Kory, MD, MPA, and verified by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), 100 to 200 congressional reps and/or staff and families who contracted COVID-19 were treated with the Front Line Ivermectin protocol."
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/09/report-100-to-200-congressional-reps-and-staff-were-treated-with-ivermectin-protocol-from-front-line-covid-critical-care-doctors/
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Date: 2021-10-12 10:51 pm (UTC)archive if the tweet vanishes: https://archive.is/0n7dA
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:39 pm (UTC)A few days ago, there was a bizarre news item on the BBC whereby some unnamed person supposedly had examined studies of the effectiveness of Ivermectine and found them all to be fraudulent and claiming that these studies were all false science.
The shrill tone of the unnamed person and the definite condemnation by the newscaster of these studies were bizarre. Since when are newscasters the final authority on science I wondered.
Has anyone seen that news item? It made headlines for at least half a day.
The BBC has a reputation similar to Pravda during the good old days of the Soviet Union now, but this was rather extraordinary. As if they really went out of their way to shoot down that drug.
I wonder if that is not an early sign that the elites are beginning to lose control of the narrative.
Any thoughts anyone?
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Date: 2021-10-12 08:09 pm (UTC)On a personal note, in my little city state of Canberra in Australia, people only started getting waxed in the last couple of months and our Chief Minister is now telling everyone we'll get to 97 or 98% waxed. My husband is waxed but my 24 year old is not and my 20 year old has a history of anaphylaxis so he could get a genuine medical exemption if he needed one. So the boys and I may be left standing in a sea of corpses who trusted the government.
IMHO people who trust doctors haven't been sick enough to learn.
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Date: 2021-10-12 10:27 pm (UTC)Yes, that seems pretty clear:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-a-southwest-airlines-pilot/comments
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Date: 2021-10-12 06:44 pm (UTC)Falling Tree Woman.
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From:Go, DeSantis, Go!
Date: 2021-10-12 07:02 pm (UTC)A letter from the office of Gov. Ron DeSantis to Leon County officials states the county is being fined nearly $4 million over subjecting county employees to a mask mandate.
AND
the FL DOH released a list of businesses under investigation for trying to mandate employee vaccinations. $5k fine per violation.
https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-businesses-requiring-vaccination/37928032
The governor's office says:
"'Commonly accepted practices for crisis management' do not include forced-masking and coercing people into getting medical procedures under threat of termination. These policies do not protect citizens; they violate citizens’ rights."
Re: Go, DeSantis, Go!
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Date: 2021-10-12 07:05 pm (UTC)I just want to say a huge thank you for referencing the Fraternitas Rosae Crucis in previous discussions. I have begun the application process for their School of Soul Science course and referenced their Tenet on Immunization in my request for religious exemption in regards to my employer’s vaccine mandate. I literally know of no one whose request has been approved; yet, this morning I was granted approval and I will be able to keep my job and I largely attribute that success to the Rosicrucian order. So thanks! I probably would have lost my job if not for your acknowledgment of them.
Also, as part of my reasoning, I said that I believe all aspects of existence have consciousness, including viruses, and that viruses have a malignant spiritual dimension to them. Due to the nature of vaccines containing (or in this case producing) various aspects of the target virus, I said that vaccines contain that malignant energy within them and thus act as blood and body pollution. Does this line of reasoning actually hold any water?
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Date: 2021-10-12 08:21 pm (UTC)"Every cell in our bodies contains viral DNA. Human endogenous retroviruses, and elements thereof, make up about 5 to 8% of our DNA. Most are inactive, fossil remnants from infections of germ cells that have occurred over millions of years during our evolution. Some of them are suspected to be associated with specific diseases, but the protein products of other endogenous retroviruses are essential for placental development... Furthermore, the conservation of some of the viral sequences in vertebrate genomes suggests that they may have been selected for beneficial properties over evolutionary time."
-from Flint et al. Principles of Virology: Volume 1 Molecular Biology. 2015
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Date: 2021-10-12 07:18 pm (UTC)Australia already has, Belgium and others.
But in US the PMC class seems so stubborn, I wonder what can happen out of it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/911-system-jeopardy-first-responders-are-not-down-mandated-jab
The axe falls for me in November
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Date: 2021-10-12 07:41 pm (UTC)"1/ ICU doc letter to FDA: “I can no longer silently accept the serious harm being caused by the C19 vaccines... my sincere hope reaction to this letter will not be to focus on me but rather to focus on addressing the serious safety issues with these products"
https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1447997725837074433
I suppose it's too much to hope that a major news outlet or two would pick it up.
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Date: 2021-10-13 02:45 am (UTC)It's really worth your time to read.
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Date: 2021-10-12 07:54 pm (UTC)“‘The president’s decline is alarming’: Biden trapped in coronavirus malaise”
From a Politico article at:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/11/biden-coronavirus-pandemic-515764
And yes, they used a featured photo that is not at all flattering.
The content and intent of the article is about the plummeting approval rating of the person who is daily televised reading from the Presidential teleprompter. But I have to think that the headline writer was trying to send a cryptic message (or even incantation) about the physical and mental health of our elected Executive, that Brandon guy.
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Date: 2021-10-12 08:20 pm (UTC)I'm no fan of the paternalistic theory of government.
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Date: 2021-10-12 08:22 pm (UTC)Two friends, both vaccinated, who have Covid-19; one had to go to the hospital. Another friend is lawyering up for a fight with their employer over vaccine mandates. It’s true: the rehearsal is over.
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Date: 2021-10-12 10:46 pm (UTC)https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-07-16/memes-hong-kong-protests
https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/blog_post/why-do-hong-kong-protesters-use-pepe-the-frog-as-an-icon-for-freedom-and-democracy/
This might be the closest equivalent. Will 'Brandon' be our 'Winnie the Pooh'?
https://www.wionews.com/world/why-chinas-president-xi-jinping-fears-winnie-the-pooh-313823
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