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stressful conversationThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as we watch the reports of fatal and crippling side effects of the vaccines mount up, and more and more of the vaccinated report suffering from "the worst cold ever," the floor is open for discussion.  

***Update***:  Over the last day I've received attempted comments by people trying to derail the discussion here by dragging in various pet issues from conspiracy culture, including 9/11 and the Apollo moon landings. I understand that other forums skeptical of the Covid vaccines are getting the same treatment, and, ahem, it's one of the standard gimmicks that rent-a-trolls use to disrupt online conversations they don't like. I am therefore enacting a zero tolerance policy for such things. Anyone who tries to post something on a conspiracy-theory theme unrelated to the virus panic will be banned permanently from this forum, full stop, end of sentence. 'Nuf said.
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Steve Kirsch Slide Deck

Date: 2021-10-12 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Steve Kirsch has put together a very extensive powerpoint summary on what is going on. I appreciate his link to sources and his calculations.

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/All.pdf

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Date: 2021-10-12 06:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] escorcher
Not the narrative for most though of course.
Still all about how effective the vaccines are here in the UK and European news this week - this French 'close to government' study out yesterday and widely being reported on - 90% effective vaccines, everything's coming up roses, you get the picture:
https://www.epi-phare.fr/rapports-detudes-et-publications/impact-vaccination-covid-octobre-2021/

However, arguably, this is all falling in the news agenda right now here as supply chain difficulties and higher energy costs increasingly cast a shadow over the impending European winter. Petrol prices near me up 4p a litre in less than a week! (3% rise - if that continued for a year that'd be 150%+ increase.)

All making for a decidedly shaky time if the main narrative starts to look unsupportable.
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Fun data point

Date: 2021-10-12 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] team10tim
The Fauci documentary on Rotten Tomatoes had no viewer ratings until this week.

https://www.rt.com/usa/537203-fauci-documentary-rotten-tomatoes/

Critics rate it 91%

Viewers rate it 2%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fauci

Ah, the gap between the official position and public sentiment.

Re: Fun data point

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From: [personal profile] brenainn
I learned a few years ago that many critics, perhaps most, rate films based on the message of the film. The film can otherwise suck, but if it checks all the boxes for the latest leftist orthodoxy, they'll rate it highly. I suspect part of this is to encourage people to watch the film, and let the nefarious magic that goes into the hypnotic state of movie watching inch people toward acceptance of the latest orthodoxy. I think this is actually a fine example of the magic of the elites failing miserably, and they have no idea what to replace it with.

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Date: 2021-10-12 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Interesting that this was posted at 111 pm Well I have a quick question, what is yours and anyones opinion of the lumping in being covid sceptic with beliefs in chemtrails, flat earth etc ( I don't know much about these subjects and I don't want to accept cult of anything as a given )

and more important perhaps is everyone doing ok !? I have three children and I don't want any of them to get this treatment. I feel significantly more supported since these posts started in that the cognitive dissonance is being eased.

Are people feeling strong in being able to oppose treatment especially mandatory treatment?

Love to you all through this

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Date: 2021-10-12 07:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I think lumping those things together is a deliberate attempt to trash the objectors.

I also think being ostracized and having your reputation trashed for a perfectly reasonable thing like "I have doubts about this experimental medical treatment and do not wish to be a test subject" will make at least a few perfectly reasonable people willing to give the flat-earthers and chemtrail folks a fair hearing. Because now we're all in this together: why not?

Weird times make strange bedfellows.

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Date: 2021-10-12 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] the_copper_dragon
The less I'm getting involved on online discourse on Covid and politics in general, the more I've thinking of the eventual pop of the balloon, or back, that will signal the fall of the PMC. My question is whose head is most likely to roll first?

I dont think that it's going to be Fauci or anyone in the political realm, but they most certainly will be tossed right into the fire before more chaos ensues.

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Date: 2021-10-12 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I'm not even sure it'll come from the COVID side at this point, though it's anyone's guess.

Have you seen the latest from Loudon County?

What is the latest from Loudoun County

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Date: 2021-10-12 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tamanous2020
Hi JMG,

It does seem like we're in roughly stage 10 of your initial prediction so hats off to your foresight. If you'd told me ten years ago that an archdruid would be my go to oracle, I would have laughed myself out the door.

While the Osha mandate seems dead in the water, a number of important deadlines are coming due for the military, federal workers, pilots etc. Taking into account your's and Kim's readings of the mext 60 days, it feels like stage 11 will happen within this timeframe. Just look on how the press has had to spin the latest issues with airline pilots which certainly seems mandate related and not any bad weather. If they won't admit that blatant cause and effect, there's no way official channels will acknowledge widespread internal resistance and will simply, on paper, say everyone is vaccinated and we're all good.

The supply chain is looking even shakier this week. Definite limited shelves on the major retailers. I went into a Walgreens recently and the glass freezer doors had been replaced by lcd screens advertising the goods inside the freezer. But once you opened the door, 90% of the items were out of stock.

Also, it seems like Europe will have major energy and material goods this year. If ADE is a real thing, which it certsinly seems, then a cold winter + non reliable energy infrastructure is a bad combo for public health (very in keeping with that november lunar eclipse astrology you pointed out).

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Date: 2021-10-12 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
this seems to indicate it's not weather related ;)

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c839be9-a966-49e8-b656-3eabd5c29c82_671x641.png

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Date: 2021-10-12 05:40 pm (UTC)
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I posted this datapoint I found on messages from Italy in the last thread, if this happens I think it brings another component to JMG theory by extending the denial phase and demonising the unvaccinated it cannot get but worse:
In Italy, those vaccinated do not feel well, even if they have not had serious side effects. Those who are vaccinated with two doses, if they do not do the third, are passed as unvaccinated when they arrive in hospitals, because many end up in serious condition. But they do not want, the government, to admit that they were vaccinated. I'm talking from a reliable source.

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Date: 2021-10-12 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sounds like Israel where fully vaccinated means three shots for most now with fourth shot already planned

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/311703

Has to be refreshed every 6 months.

https://news.yahoo.com/israels-vaccine-pass-expire-6-102521992.html

Guess that's old news for most here

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I belong to a somewhat obscure religious community. Many members are older, and since it's in a deep blue area, fear of Covid and faith in the vaccines are both off the chart for many people.

Discussions are underway about requiring vaccinations to attend services.

I'm one of very few people who have chosen not to get the vaccine, first out of caution about unknown long-term consequences, and now out of concern about demonstrable dangers both to myself and others.

There will be soon be some discussions about the mandating vaccines. I'm not optimistic. (Though there is at least a small number of respected people who aren't completely in favor of a mandate.)

Those in favor depend on the assumption that vaccinated=safe. I need some citations of high-quality studies that document high viral loads and transmission of the virus from the vaccinated. Peer reviewed papers would be best. I am certain that videos from anything likely to be dismissed as a "right-wing conspiracy site" will be dismissed without even a click. Thanks for any specific suggestions.

All I have so far is one from the Lancet on Vietnamese healthcare workers, high viral loads, and transmission from vaccinated staff. Thanks for any more specific citations.

Donkey Oatey

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Date: 2021-10-12 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mitchell2
Moderna is banned in four European countries, Taiwanese politician (wang hongwei) now says vaxx is killing more than covid.

Edit - I couldnt find the link from wang hongwei's statement from last week - maybe it has been de-googled
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Playing Both Sides

Date: 2021-10-12 05:45 pm (UTC)
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Last week, I left a comment buried in a thread about a suspicion I have that whatever forces are behind the mess we're in are playing both sides.

As I've mentioned before, I got vaccinated earlier this year; I felt the sort of "It's OK, just do it" feeling that made the concern others were having at the time seem silly. I've recently found myself despairing over the possibility that this may lead to my death. If that sounds reasonable, consider that I have health conditions that pretty much guarantee that if there is a massive die-off due to the vaccines, I'll be one of the casualties no matter what. Moreover, the feeling is clearly interfering with my connection to the divine and dragging me away from the light.

My point is, despite everything that's going on, I think it's important we not let our fear overcome our virtues. Don't let the demons get more than they've already been given.

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From: (Anonymous)
I think many acquiesced to the jab with exactly that sentiment, having been immersed in an ocean of coercion. Both of my kids (27,32)submitted in this way, somewhat reluctantly, but wanting to get on with their lives. It is very difficult to contemplate that the vax could cause them permanent harm or even death...very grateful for Stoic philosophy. I'm actively lobbying now for no booster shots and they seem to have realized the folly in that con. There's a pretty large segment of the jabbed who were thoroughly coerced and pressured to submit so if Stage 11 starts obviously manifesting those folks are going to be mighty angry. Completely agree that Fear is the enemy...may we all find the courage to endure.

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From: [personal profile] mitchell2
Latest from Dr Bhakdi explaining how the Covid Vaccine Attacks Blood Cells
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4JQpNrnLLX97/

Germany update

Date: 2021-10-12 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bluemoose
Saw on a report today that in Germany up to 10 % of patients now in Intensive Care are fully vaccinated (119 out of 1186). According to experts this was to be 'expected' because of the rapid rise in vaccinated population. Article is in Polish but looks like info taken from „Der Spiegel” at least the experts comment.

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So 90% of intensive care patients are non-vaccinated or partially vaccinated?

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Date: 2021-10-12 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Two bits of news from Canada:

1) The Globe and Mail published an article yesterday about the waning effectiveness of the vaccines:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-covid-19-outbreak-in-bc-indigenous-community-fuels-concerns-over/

It's notable because it is a mainstream source of Canadian news. It's behind a paywall, but a choice quote:

"Ahousaht Chief Councillor Greg Louie helped set the tone by being first in line to receive his vaccine. He says 92 per cent of eligible community members got their first shot during that January clinic, after public-health officials ran information sessions. Most residents returned for their second shot four weeks later. (The province later increased the recommended interval, based on clinical trials that concluded that getting the second dose six to eight weeks after the first may provide stronger protection.)

Now, eight months on, First Nations health officials are concerned the protection offered by the vaccine is fading, just as the more dangerous Delta variant is spreading. Since Sept. 4, there have been more than 50 cases of COVID-19 in Maaqtusiis, involving five households, with additional cases among Ahousaht members living off-reserve. A breakdown of how many cases required hospitalization was not provided.

“We have seen higher rates of COVID among fully vaccinated individuals – as high as three times the rate among the general B.C. population,” said Dr. Shannon McDonald, acting chief medical officer for the provincial First Nations Health Authority (FNHA)."

2) Here in Nova Scotia, the Halifax Examiner today published what amounts to be a victory lap for the vaccines and the recently imposed vaccine mandates (which started on October 4th):
https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/featured/in-nova-scotia-unvaccinated-people-are-being-hospitalized-with-covid-at-50-times-the-rate-of-fully-vaccinated-people/

Shouldn't be behind a paywall. As I wrote last week, most Nova Scotians got their vaccines throughout the summer, so they're at their peak effectiveness. No mention of what may happen as the vaccines effectiveness starts to decline... Includes some data about recent cases as well.

Fauci in The Hall of the Mountain King

Date: 2021-10-12 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I saw this linked to in the comment thread of The Daily Sceptic - a good UK site - it’s a short bit of video and then a montage set to Greig’s Hall of the Mountain King - well worth a view -Fauci’s pronouncements on vaccine efficacy given the appropriate‘treatment’. Funny
https://youtu.be/TSZMtSPX3iE
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https://ground.news/article/grace-smith-wyoming-school-student-16-arrested-for-refusing-to-wear-mask-in-school

tl;dr: School goes on full lockdown when unmasked honors student Grace Smith attempts to attend school.

Then,
(today) NYT, one of the loudest pushers of pro-vax propaganda, lets a post through that admits kids get near-zero benefit from the jab.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/20-months-in-the-new-york-times-one/

Anyone else feel a long-awaited change in the air?
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Boy I wish this one wasn't behind a paywall! His brief summary and quotations make me wonder what the rest of the article says. The article does, indeed, feel portentous of change.

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Stage 9 or stage 10?

Date: 2021-10-12 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello!

According to your hypothesis of August, is the world still at stage 9 or is it edging towards stage 10? You may comment only about the US situation if you wish.

Thanks!

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Date: 2021-10-12 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] goats_and_roses
Congress critters have been using ivermectin and HCQ on the down low. So they know it works. I wonder if we will ever find out which congress people did this while not speaking up about it being suppressed in favor of Pharma- preferred expensive (and often fatal) cures.

It's one thing to remain silent because you haven't seen evidence it works, but after using it yourself, continuing the narrative is criminal. Revolting.

"According to Dr Pierre Kory, MD, MPA, and verified by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), 100 to 200 congressional reps and/or staff and families who contracted COVID-19 were treated with the Front Line Ivermectin protocol."

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/09/report-100-to-200-congressional-reps-and-staff-were-treated-with-ivermectin-protocol-from-front-line-covid-critical-care-doctors/

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Date: 2021-10-12 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jpc_w
A tweet on this very topic: https://twitter.com/drsimonegold/status/1447465392469946368?s=20
archive if the tweet vanishes: https://archive.is/0n7dA

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The BBC & Ivermectine

Date: 2021-10-12 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi!

A few days ago, there was a bizarre news item on the BBC whereby some unnamed person supposedly had examined studies of the effectiveness of Ivermectine and found them all to be fraudulent and claiming that these studies were all false science.

The shrill tone of the unnamed person and the definite condemnation by the newscaster of these studies were bizarre. Since when are newscasters the final authority on science I wondered.
Has anyone seen that news item? It made headlines for at least half a day.

The BBC has a reputation similar to Pravda during the good old days of the Soviet Union now, but this was rather extraordinary. As if they really went out of their way to shoot down that drug.

I wonder if that is not an early sign that the elites are beginning to lose control of the narrative.

Any thoughts anyone?

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Date: 2021-10-12 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My University Librarian sister keeps saying the same thing. (She is double waxed and just got her 13 year old waxed.) I told her they wait until people are in hospital and nearly dead before giving the IVM, and that's not when it works. Not that they would deliberately design the studies like that or anything.

On a personal note, in my little city state of Canberra in Australia, people only started getting waxed in the last couple of months and our Chief Minister is now telling everyone we'll get to 97 or 98% waxed. My husband is waxed but my 24 year old is not and my 20 year old has a history of anaphylaxis so he could get a genuine medical exemption if he needed one. So the boys and I may be left standing in a sea of corpses who trusted the government.

IMHO people who trust doctors haven't been sick enough to learn.

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Date: 2021-10-12 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] trustycanteen
It seems like the Southwest airline shutdowns might be related to the vaccination mandate. Many hospital workers where I live are getting fired for not getting vaccinated as well. I wonder how much these policies will contribute to the accelerated decline of industrial society.

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Date: 2021-10-12 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It seems like the Southwest airline shutdowns might be related to the vaccination mandate.

Yes, that seems pretty clear:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-a-southwest-airlines-pilot/comments

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The truth is out there… but there are A LOT of people who are not ready to engage. My partner and a friend of ours had a conversation this weekend about friend’s brother, pretty ill with heart issues and swelling ankles etc without a whiff of insight about vaccine related damage (they are both vaccinated - and very intelligent people) - likewise, read or watch MSM in the UK and the message is -it’s all good- genuinely I think this is a religious movement and all who believe the religion of progress as it gets more shaky, as we pass more limits to growth, the more they double down. I’m not expecting the consensus to change anytime soon: I’m expecting it to tighten with scapegoating ramping up. Until you see, you cannot see.
Falling Tree Woman.

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Date: 2021-10-12 09:16 pm (UTC)
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100% agree. I see a lot of statements about "bubbles popping", "shift in the winds", "break in the narrative" and in a normal year, we'd be shifting course given the news that is out on vaccines and Covid. We are very clearly not in any sort of normal situation and something has a hold on people. I'm expecting people to go right to the grave with inscriptions on their headstones touting how great the vaccines are.

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Go, DeSantis, Go!

Date: 2021-10-12 07:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
State of Florida just fined Leon County (Tallahassee) $4 million for subjecting county employees to a mask mandate.

A letter from the office of Gov. Ron DeSantis to Leon County officials states the county is being fined nearly $4 million over subjecting county employees to a mask mandate.

AND

the FL DOH released a list of businesses under investigation for trying to mandate employee vaccinations. $5k fine per violation.

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-businesses-requiring-vaccination/37928032

The governor's office says:

"'Commonly accepted practices for crisis management' do not include forced-masking and coercing people into getting medical procedures under threat of termination. These policies do not protect citizens; they violate citizens’ rights."
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I have been considering packing up and moving to Florida or Texas, or maybe somewhere else of a similar mindset. For some time I have been thinking the US is heading toward a secessionist movement and a month or more ago I posted on Market-Ticker that Biden could begin backing down and go down in history as merely the worst US president ever, or he could continue on and be remembered as something much worse.

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Thank You

Date: 2021-10-12 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG,

I just want to say a huge thank you for referencing the Fraternitas Rosae Crucis in previous discussions. I have begun the application process for their School of Soul Science course and referenced their Tenet on Immunization in my request for religious exemption in regards to my employer’s vaccine mandate. I literally know of no one whose request has been approved; yet, this morning I was granted approval and I will be able to keep my job and I largely attribute that success to the Rosicrucian order. So thanks! I probably would have lost my job if not for your acknowledgment of them.

Also, as part of my reasoning, I said that I believe all aspects of existence have consciousness, including viruses, and that viruses have a malignant spiritual dimension to them. Due to the nature of vaccines containing (or in this case producing) various aspects of the target virus, I said that vaccines contain that malignant energy within them and thus act as blood and body pollution. Does this line of reasoning actually hold any water?

Re: Thank You

Date: 2021-10-12 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Perhaps not as well as you'd like...

"Every cell in our bodies contains viral DNA. Human endogenous retroviruses, and elements thereof, make up about 5 to 8% of our DNA. Most are inactive, fossil remnants from infections of germ cells that have occurred over millions of years during our evolution. Some of them are suspected to be associated with specific diseases, but the protein products of other endogenous retroviruses are essential for placental development... Furthermore, the conservation of some of the viral sequences in vertebrate genomes suggests that they may have been selected for beneficial properties over evolutionary time."

-from Flint et al. Principles of Virology: Volume 1 Molecular Biology. 2015

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Date: 2021-10-12 07:18 pm (UTC)
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Is it possible that in the US the late stage 10 will never come:
Meanwhile the people who refuse to get vaccinated won’t budge no matter how much furious rhetoric and punitive policy gets dumped on them. Once this becomes clear, authorities will insist that everyone but a few holdouts has been vaccinated, in the fond hope that people will believe them one more time.
Australia already has, Belgium and others.

But in US the PMC class seems so stubborn, I wonder what can happen out of it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/911-system-jeopardy-first-responders-are-not-down-mandated-jab

The axe falls for me in November

Date: 2021-10-12 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
To everyone who is either a Federal Government employee or a contractor and who is not getting vaxxed: I just wanted to extend my best wishes and my solidarity with you. I am a contractor and the company I work for set the date this week: the unvaxxed will be fired in November. My son-in-law is a Federal Government employee and he was given until November 9. He is planning to file a religious exemption and has been told that in his agency, religious exemptions may be a rubber stamp, i.e., if you take the time to fill out the paperwork, they will rubber stamp it and you will stay employed. I am not sure if that is true, but he is trying it. It might be true, since they have spent a lot on training and will lose if he is fired. As for me, I will put in my resignation in November. Folks have recommended that I force the issue and make them fire me, but I don't feel like I can take it, to be honest. The contempt, hostility, and in my face telling me I am unclean has made staying impossible. I am working hard not to wish the worst for the smug jerk who is the CEO, and who is incidentally very well connected to the ultra woke in the Democratic party. I am not political at all, but the CEO is absolutely the face of evil. Just wanted to put it out there: if you are suffering, being beaten down, and losing your job, you are not alone. I don't know what the future will bring, but there are a lot of us...

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Date: 2021-10-12 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Thank you for saying this. I am sorry you are going through this. We are also. Hopefully, someday we can all find each other and have a beer (or herbal tea).

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Date: 2021-10-12 07:41 pm (UTC)
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Hopefully this opens the floodgates of doctors willing to step forward. This one is certainly not the only one who has observed the dangers of the vaccine.

"1/ ICU doc letter to FDA: “I can no longer silently accept the serious harm being caused by the C19 vaccines... my sincere hope reaction to this letter will not be to focus on me but rather to focus on addressing the serious safety issues with these products"

https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1447997725837074433

I suppose it's too much to hope that a major news outlet or two would pick it up.

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Date: 2021-10-13 02:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Direct link to the letter: https://www.sirillp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Letter-Regarding-Covid-19-Vaccine-Injuries-Dr-Patricia-Lee.pdf

It's really worth your time to read.

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Remarkable headline

Date: 2021-10-12 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
Headlines are written by different staff members than article writers. They can sometimes be quite a bit different in their agenda than the article. This headline made my jaw drop:

“‘The president’s decline is alarming’: Biden trapped in coronavirus malaise”

From a Politico article at:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/11/biden-coronavirus-pandemic-515764
And yes, they used a featured photo that is not at all flattering.

The content and intent of the article is about the plummeting approval rating of the person who is daily televised reading from the Presidential teleprompter. But I have to think that the headline writer was trying to send a cryptic message (or even incantation) about the physical and mental health of our elected Executive, that Brandon guy.

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Date: 2021-10-12 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ah, the dreaded 'malaise'! One of the most dangerous words in the American political lexicon. Echos of Carter for sure; doubtlessly not used unintentionally.

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Date: 2021-10-12 08:20 pm (UTC)
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I'd still argue the best position for any government to take on this would be to say "We will treat our citizens like adults and allow them to make the best decision for themselves based on their values and their particular situation. Likewise, we will allow parents to make the necessary decisions for their children on the same basis.".

I'm no fan of the paternalistic theory of government.

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Date: 2021-10-13 05:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This really is the only sane response for a government. Especially since if the person takes it and has a poor response it's on their shoulders that they chose to take it. If they were pushed into it through government mandates etc, who is responsible? That's downright risky footing.

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Let’s go Brandon

Date: 2021-10-12 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
Has the meme (see title) advanced to the point where social media are starting to censor it? If/when that happens, I predict the meme will morph to the almost-uncensorable “LGB.” Also is easy to say, and flows off the tongue.

Two friends, both vaccinated, who have Covid-19; one had to go to the hospital. Another friend is lawyering up for a fight with their employer over vaccine mandates. It’s true: the rehearsal is over.

Re: Let’s go Brandon

Date: 2021-10-12 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This meme will be a real test. Before Covid hit there were large protests in Hong Kong. They were being censored to an extreme level, and the protestors had started to come up with memes and sayings to get around this. So, the test is, are we at Hong Kong levels of censorship, or not quite there yet.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-07-16/memes-hong-kong-protests

https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/blog_post/why-do-hong-kong-protesters-use-pepe-the-frog-as-an-icon-for-freedom-and-democracy/

This might be the closest equivalent. Will 'Brandon' be our 'Winnie the Pooh'?

https://www.wionews.com/world/why-chinas-president-xi-jinping-fears-winnie-the-pooh-313823

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