Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6
Sep. 14th, 2021 11:38 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 12:51 am (UTC)However, I don't know how to calculate how much of the paste I would need to take or how often. I haven't been able to find a page that gives a protocol for usage though I know people have mentioned using it successfully here and a few other forums I've browsed.
If anyone reading this has used it successfully I'd be grateful if you contacted me to explain the protocol you used. I have a Dreamwidth account so you can just send me an email there.
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 02:55 am (UTC)—Lady Cutekitten
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Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 06:05 am (UTC)However, this is anecdotal and I suggest you do backup research; for example, search the web to find out what the dose level is in Africa and India (where they use Ivermectin on humans). Denninger said they used a bunch of it in Uttar Pradesh, see if you can find the Uttar Pradesh health department website; they might say what dose they used.
The commentors on our forum further said that in the U.S., pony paste is sold in "syringe" looking dispensers that are marked off in pounds of body weight. Some have said that they also use it on smaller animals like sheep so that is probably why. (A whole "syringe" is usually enough for a 1250 pound horse.)
The commentors finished by saying, use the markings on the "syringe" to dispense enough paste for your body weight, and that you will thus be getting the correct dose (or near to it).
For what it's worth I have a syringe of pony paste for emergencies and there are instructions of how to jigger the "syringe" for a particular body weight. Look the package over, they should make it pretty clear.
Again, you may want to do the India/Africa research I suggest above.
- Cicada Grove
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 01:45 pm (UTC)Data is here
https://www.vmd.defra.gov.uk/ProductInformationDatabase/product/A006029
You should have notches on the injection. 1 notch for every 100kg of your body weight. Same as if you were a horse.
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 02:13 pm (UTC)No guarantees: https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/1438854045175746560?s=20
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 02:47 pm (UTC)"Quote:
Anybody do the math on proper horse paste dosage-- teaspoon?
No math is needed. The plunger is calibrated by weight, usually in 50 lb increments, and has a stopper than can be set to the proper place. Those calibrations are at the standard 0.2 mg/kg dose."
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3703665
You can use the search function and find other posts. Use "dosage" or "pony paste" and you'll probably get plenty of hits.
I'd recommend Market-Ticker for articles and discussion of covid and the vaccines. Discussions are on the NAD forum as he got harassed by someone relating to Ad revenue and had to segregate all posts pertaining to covid and the vaccines. Denninger has been all over this from the beginning.
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 04:26 am (UTC)Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 05:02 am (UTC)There is some publicly available information on the topic, though.
A physician named Vladmir Zelenko has published his treatment protocol at https://vladimirzelenkomd.com.
The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance has also published several treatment protocols on their website at https://covid19criticalcare.com.
Anyone trying to calculate a dosage for horse paste would need to convert to metric and do some math to figure out the proper amount based on body weight. The only advice I will offer is that if you're not sure of the math, get help from somebody who understands it.
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 09:50 am (UTC)The standard dosing rate for prophylaxis (FLCCC) is 0.2mg/kg.
Therefore if you weigh 80kg or 175 pounds you would use that weight reading on the syringe. It is the same for humans and horses.
If you need to take a larger dose of 0.4mg/kg for early treatment (FLCCC) then you double the weight reading to 160kg or 350 pounds.
Something to know about. I spoke to a compounding chemist (for humans and animals) about these drugs and from their experience they are well above food grade quality and pose no risk to human health. One of the main reasons they gave is that horses have much more sensitive livers than humans so the purity has to be very good.
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 11:12 am (UTC)Dosing for ivm is often in the range of 0.2 to 0.4 mg/kg. In round numbers, that's a dose of 18-36 mg for your 200 lb horse. A paste that's 1.87% ivm has 18.7 mg ivm in one gram of the paste. Your 200 lb horse would get 2 grams of paste to get the upper end of the normal dose.
Coincidentally, the FLCCC recommends an early treatment dose of ivm between 0.4 and 0.6 mg per kg, which would be between 2 and 3 grams of paste for your 200 lb horse. Per dose.
Totally unrelated to horse paste, the FLCCC website is
https://covid19criticalcare.com
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 01:06 pm (UTC)https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
Written by everybody's delightfully, irascibly bonkers Catholic spinster auntie, whom I would definitely never take medical advice from. What would my doctor say?
The horse-paste info is down the page a ways. Ctrl+F will find it quickly. Good luck on your postapocalyptic novel! ;)
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-18 07:20 pm (UTC)I've also posted very nearly the entirety on my site (as I've been grabbing and saving IM DOC's comments and insights).
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-19 01:17 am (UTC)Interestingly, I suspect that a lot of the double blind controlled trials that have been done by Pharma on Ivermectin use with covid has been done on an empty stomach to avoid confounding results; which would result in Ivermectin not going systemic and, thus, being less effective against covid, thus allowing Pharma to say that it’s not effective and sell you a $3,000 a dose drug that’s essentially useless *cough* Remdesivir *cough* or enroll you in the largest vaccine trial in history.
Brother Josephus
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-19 01:30 am (UTC)For the FLCC protocol for prevention. They recommend two doses, taken 48 hours apart and then once per week.
For the dosage of the doses:
For Durimectin and Bivermectin, it shows big 250 lbs increments and there are 5 little notches in each of those, so for a 200 lb body weight that would be 4 out of 5 of the little notches.
For parasite infections you are supposed to take Ivermectin on an empty stomach because you want it to stay in the digestive system. 'This is not what you want for treating covid.'
For treating or preventing covid, you should take it after taking a meal and I've been mixing it with olive oil as I believe it absorbs a bit better when mixed with oil (I heard the oil trick in a Eric Weinstein video). This allows to digestive system to absorb it into the bloodstream.
I've bought both Durimectin and Bivermectin and they come out of the same Canadian manufacturing plant (checked labels) and taste the same (not great, I have some water on hand to wash the taste out of my mouth).
I took the two initial doses (taken 48 hours apart), and then took one dose one time per week (for a total of 5-6 weeks), about the 3rd or 4th week I cut the dose in half as I believe it started to cause muscle cramping (only side effect I noticed). Also, I believe they say to not drink alcohol while taking Ivermectin to lower the risk of side effects.
I'll do another treatment in 6 months (that is how often they take in African countries to prevent parasites, and that frequency seems to have a profound effect on frequency and severity of covid. No need to trust me, go to Google and type "Nigeria covid cases". Nigeria has a population of 220 million people and have about 600 new cases per day vs USA with 330 Million people and 150,000 new cases per day.
If I get covid, I’ll start taking dose daily for 2-5 days along with Zinc, C, and D. Most that become really sick from covid are low in vitamin D, lack of Vitamin D seems to effect people immune systems and cause them to overreact to the virus.
Re: Duramectin
Date: 2021-09-20 05:51 am (UTC)Have a look at the calculating the dose of ivermectin...
Not medical advice just passing over a reference from a medical doctor.