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support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 03:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Around here, the loss of sense of smell would be somewhat of a blessing! The darn skunks are awful this year.

Your story made me wonder: are there any provisions to help those with no sense of smell detect a gas leak? Does there exist an alarm that’s triggered, like a smoke alarm? If there ever really is a serious Covid epidemic, or if we’ve already had one that’s been concealed by fudged statistics, many thousands could be unable to smell a gas leak.

—Lady Cutekitten

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lady Cutekitten,

Indeed! I had a stinker at my house this morning.

It's easy to find smoke detectors that also detect carbon monoxide. You can get them online, or have them installed by an electrician.

Chris in VT

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
We have a carbon monoxide detector. I was wondering about something that detects leaking gas that can blow up your house.

Some years ago, I was visiting parents when there was a weird loud thud outside and Dad immediately ordered everyone to the basement. That thud turned out to be the sound of a non-Hollywood explosion. At the end of the street a house was burning, giving off clouds of black smoke for hours. There had been a gas explosion.

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes. We have inexpensive carbon monoxide alarms on both floors of our house because my cookstove is propane gas. They're are about the same size as your standard home smoke alarm and we bought them at the big orange home store for roughly the same cost as the smoke alarms. There are also more elaborate alarms to buy online for either propane or natural gas if you're looking for something more substantial.

Beekeeper in Vermont

Re: Another wrong kind of breakthrough

Date: 2021-09-15 02:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Yes, gas leak detectors do exist! I want to get my parents one-- Dad has no sense of smell, and I can't count the number of times he's almost blown up the house with our gas stove...
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