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support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

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Date: 2021-09-14 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The narrative is crumbling in the UK - here is a clip from a mainstream breakfast show. They are comparing the data from 12 September 2020 to the same day in 2021.
Last year there were 18 Covid deaths, and 218 hospitalizations. This year - 56 deaths and 1,000+ hospitalisations. The celeb Doctor is asked why when there were no vaccines last year?

All he can do is waffle to maintain the official narrative.

https://twitter.com/Gerard38delaney/status/1437502532616691718

However, the cognitive dissonance is still very strong. When the jabbed end up in hospital, the usual refrain is "I would have died without the jab."

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Date: 2021-09-15 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have had this discussion before. The standard pro-vax answer to this question is "It's because Delta is more serious than last year's COVID, and without the vaccine the numbers would be even worse now"

(notwithstanding the fact that the amount of testing now - especially compulsory testing of healthy teenagers in schools - is off the scales compared to last year, plus other factors) .
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