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troubledThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 03:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Two jobs and a career gone in a few weeks. All but three of my work friends have become little more than irritated acquaintances the last couple of months. Out of a few friends and some secondary acquaintances all but 3 of us are refusing the shot to the end. I've been told to take the shot or be terminated by email from both jobs. I've applied for exemptions by email with both jobs. I've been refused exemptions by email by both jobs. I've had request for appeal by email ignored. Today I worked at MGH arriving 40 minutes early at 6:20am expecting to sit and have a cup of coffee before starting at 7am. As I walked in I was asked by the oncoming day supervisor if I could punch in and cover an ECMO patient that the night supervisor was covering because we were short staffed again. I did that without hesitation for my coworkers who needed me. I carried 2 pagers from the person who braked me during a short lunch break. I stayed about a 1/2 hour late today getting out at 7:50pm tonight which is not unusual. They begged me to work an overtime shift tomorrow which I turned down as I am working a second job later in the week. I have done this my whole career, starting early and staying late. Working through lunch or carrying pagers and phones. Working 2 jobs and overtime. Working 20 hours transport babys by air or ground from out of state. The turnover and discontent in this business is unbelievable. The treatment of people who have spent their lives swimming in blood, crap, and gore without totally losing their sh_t is unbelievable. These last few weeks with poison ivy burns and emails, emails, notifying me my career is over and all subsequent interactions by email is an unbelievable experience.

I don't have facebook, twitter, or anything else. My linkedin page was only in case I ever needed another job. I only posted on 1 other forum, The Daily Reckoning, 20 years ago and quit when everyone started fighting and calling each other Nazi's after a few post.

John, you made a comment or I read from someone else here that we, or non-physical entities, still feel like it applies to me/us, must be able to suffer and tolerate the burning off of our fossilized husk, our ego opinion of ourselves, before we can move on and/or grow to a new self. I'm picturing a chrysalis now. Maybe a salamander in a fire?

Sorry if this is corny or trite. I think I feel more than I think? I thank you John for a place where I've been able to talk, process, and vent in a way that I can't to those around me. I thank you for a place that is helping me find a new way to move forward in this life with your post and suggestive links. I thank MDs like Lunar Apprentice and John Day and a nurse friend of mine in her early 50s with a son in high school and a mortgage who have all stood strong against the shot and its coercions, and have helped me find strength in their examples. I feel grateful for this opportunity to take a stand in my life for something that is literally screaming for and at me to do this. To be in the company of the wonderful people that I have brought to share post on this website.

I've been looking back at old post on this website and I didn't realize how much I've missed in the last year and a half with my crazy covid workload. I realize what a transitional period this is for all of us - I can't emphasize that enough. This is a period of choice. An awesome opportunity to exercise one's will. A point of divergence for each of us for all of eternity. A period of immense pressure. God's will? Or do the times always seem unique and significant? Remember "duck and cover" in grade school? I do.

I'm feeling drawn to Christian mysticism and nature mysticism. I feel a desire to practice and preserve Western tradition. I feel familiar with the middle pillar practice through Eastern traditions. I get emotional when I read Christian mystics in a way that I don't with Eastern. I'm thinking I might be able to keep up with OSA and catch up with Levi/tarot with this tumultuous work period ending soon.

Thank you John. Thank you very much for this space and your time. It is sincerely and deeply appreciated. Den

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 05:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Incredible post, my friend - it really touched my soul. Best wishes to you over the coming weeks, months, and beyond.

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 06:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deng
Thank you. It's from the heart. Den

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I see an 'alternative' market for people like you who have medical skills but have been kicked out of the main market because of your sensible, logic thinking.

Something akin to a speak easy for medical matters.

Seems to me we'll end up there anyway during the long descent.

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mitchell2
So we will have consumers and health professionals locked out of the mainstream economy alike.
I think I'm starting to see a market opportunity here.

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 08:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
This whole discussion makes me think of the GP who went to my childhood church. Always carried his bag around in his car. Always had some parishioner or other flagging him down after church let out-- and there you'd find him, by his car, scoping the ears of some kid from the Sunday school, or looking at a rash on somebody's neck. No money changed hands: I think he filed it under "tithes and offerings".

But I think there will absolutely be a place, in the near future, for under-the-table medical services that look a lot like this. It is getting more important every day, IMO, to be part of a faith or other like-minded community. It'll make that transition easier. I wonder how transferable an RT skillset is to an outside-the-hospital setting, though. Trying to imagine what that would look like...

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I can confirm an alternative economy is already beginning to emerge at least in the UK (one of the most jabbed countries in the world). Very early days and very small but I know a couple who have turned their home into a fitness studio/massage studio and also with some clever modifications a venue for video shoots and video editing etc (they work across those areas themselves). It involves repurposing the living room and making it modular depending on the use desired etc - very clever.

They refuse to be vaccinated and are explicitly doing this as an alternative for people who are unvaccinated as vaccine passports start to bite (not yet - in fact the UK has surprisingly not gone as far as most of Europe or Canada etc - the government is planning to introduce passports this month but only for very large events - no doubt there will be mission creep but not yet - and it is not even clear if the legislation will pass yet - there is quite a bit of opposition even within the political class).

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] pam_in_florida
"I'm feeling drawn to Christian mysticism and nature mysticism."

I also feel drawn to these and wondered if you have any good resources. I was raised Christian(Episcopalian) but haven't been to church in years. Have no interest there and am also a polytheist.
Thanks.

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 06:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deng
I'm actually looking through this website for suggestions and guidance myself. I trust JMG and will settle on what feels right for me. I say take your time and do the same. Den

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 06:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
May you be blessed through the transition, Den.

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-08 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
yeah, Den... you're free now. i can FEEL it. it's beautiful. mad beautiful. can't you FEEL it???
things should get really and truly fun soon. and expand your concept of fun as you had to when you went into your field of blood guts agony and death in the first place.
(smile)
x
sincerely with much admiration and gratitude for your beautiful testimony-
erika lopez

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-09 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jdecandia
For what it is worth I am a nurse who is working at Stanford hospital and I recently lost my job due to the vaccine mandates. I also lost another per DM job at Kaiser due to the vaccine mandates even with applying for both religious and medical exemption. At the time that I realized what was happening to me it felt like the walls were closing in, however now I feel that I am actually very lucky because I was able to have some foresight to save enough money, I don't have any children, and I feel that this has freed up my energies to see beneath the surface and work on things that I otherwise would not have been able to. I do believe in a year that the situation will be very different if you ever want to return to bedside nursing although I'm currently looking outside the field as I feel that it will be quite a roller coaster over the next year. If you ever want to reach out to me my email is jdecandia@live.com

Re: Wheels Keep Turning...

Date: 2021-09-10 10:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
[personal profile] jdecandia
As one who was in Stanford Hospital as a patient, and also had two family members as patients, and we all received excellent nursing care, I am so sorry to hear this news. I could see then (pre-covid) how understaffed the hospital was, and how hard the nurses had to work. If I were in your shoes, by the way, I would have done the same, resigned. I think they are madder than hatters to mandate this "vaccine." And I think you are quite right, that in a year the situation will be very different.

In the meantime, and yonder, I wish you all the best.

E.
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