Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Re: Unplugging from media

[(Anonymous)]

I remember reading that book and realizing that he had just explained a great many of the ridiculous policies being put in place in the name of "protection from Covid". They served to sever the link to reality, which, for a good many people, was already very tenuous at best. The fact they did nothing to reduce risks from Covid, or in many cases made it worse, was irrelevant: addressing Covid risks was never the point....

Re: Unplugging from media

[weilong]

This is where I start to stray into conspiracy theory territory, but it is a facet of the pandemonium that has bothered me since the beginning. Most, if not all, of the things that are being done in the name of stopping covid are, first and foremost unnecessary, and if that weren't enough, they are ineffective if not downright counterproductive. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out, either.

So why are we doing things that don't work to solve a problem that we don't have? It can't be for the reasons they are telling us; that much is clear.

Re: Unplugging from media

[(Anonymous)]

A mass hysteria mixed with government power grab would be sufficient: the masses (aka: the chattering classes) are demanding governments do something, anything; and so the government takes the opening to grab as much power as it can. It's a fairly common dynamic historically.

Re: Unplugging from media

[(Anonymous)]

"Most, if not all, of the things that are being done in the name of stopping covid are, first and foremost unnecessary,"

Your comment reminded me of a tweet I happened to come across a few days ago that said something along the lines of 'Have we quantified yet the number of lives saved by taping arrows on the floor of supermarket aisles?' I'll bet it's pretty much zero, along with the lives saved by all the other ridiculous rules we've had to endure. My husband, somewhat more patient than I, says that the people in charge have to look like they're doing something even if it's totally useless, which begs the question of whether they were doing anything especially useful before Covid.

Beekeeper in Vermont

Re: Unplugging from media

[weilong]

There's a book called "Bullshit Jobs" by David Graeber, in which he argues that, among other things, quite possibly a majority of "work" done in America these days is useless. I recommend it. It was informative and entertaining.

I agree with you that the rationale behind a lot of it seems to go:
1) We have to do something
2) This is something
3) Therefore we have to do this

Re: Unplugging from media

[(Anonymous)]

“Follow these rules and take this vaccine that doesn’t work for a disease you’re not worried about!”
“Why?”

That’s been it this whole time. My personal favorite example was having dinner at a restaurant in a suburb of Denver on New Year’s Eve in a tent.

Everyone knows you can’t catch COVID in a Tent!! That’s just “following the science!”

The dining room was closed because COVID, but you could eat outside, so a tent was set up over the patio of the restaurant because Colorado winter.

You go into the restaurant with a mask because COVID you walk twenty feet to your table and take the mask off because everyone knows it’s impossible to catch COVID at a table. Thank goodness we’re “following The SCIENCE.”

Everyone who has to actually work for a living has got this very wink wink nudge nudge “this is all for show” vibe. It seems like a speak easy or blind pig everyone rolling their eyes at this ridiculous, pro forma security theater.