Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5
Sep. 7th, 2021 12:14 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Immune tolerance hypothesis
Date: 2021-09-08 04:53 pm (UTC)That said, I do think that tolerance induced by genetic vaccines may be making it worse, with the effect ascribed wholly to the infectiousness of Delta. Infectiousness is a function of viral load, duration of viral shedding, and frequency of asymptomatic/presymptomatic transmission, and if tolerance or some other vaccine effect increases any of those it would appear as increased infectiousness.
Mark L
Re: Immune tolerance hypothesis
Date: 2021-09-08 05:04 pm (UTC)"The induction of tolerance towards stimulation with TLR7/8 (R848) or TLR4 (LPS) ligands by BNT162b2 vaccination may indicate a more balanced inflammatory reaction during infection with SARS-CoV-2, and one could speculate whether such effect may be thus useful to regulate the potential over-inflammation in COVID-19, one of the main causes of death (Tang et al., 2020). On the other hand, inhibition of innate immune responses may diminish anti-viral responses."
"This may hamper the initial innate immune response against the virus, as defects in TLR7 have been shown to result in and increased susceptibility to COVID-19 in young males (Van Der Made et al., 2020). These results collectively demonstrate that the effects of the BNT162b2 vaccine go beyond the adaptive immune system and can also modulate innate immune responses."
"In conclusion, our data show that the BNT162b2 vaccine induces effects on both the adaptive and the innate branch of immunity and that these effects are different for various SARS-CoV-2 strains. Intriguingly, the BNT162b2 vaccine induces reprogramming of innate immune responses as well, and this needs to be taken into account: in combination with strong adaptive immune responses, this could contribute to a more balanced inflammatory reaction during COVID-19 infection, or it may contribute to a diminished innate immune response towards the virus."
The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v1.full-text
Mark L
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Date: 2021-09-08 05:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:08 pm (UTC)Re: Wheels Keep Turning...
Date: 2021-09-08 05:08 pm (UTC)I think I'm starting to see a market opportunity here.
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:15 pm (UTC)a) Am taking classes at a local university, and as class rep get to hear a lot more about what's happening than the average student.
b) Work at a Hydro company. As far as I can tell, there's no public listing of these rules, which raises all sorts of red flags. I've forwarded the rules to legal and we're discussing our options; we can't afford to lose more than a third of our workforce in a little under a month....
antibody testing
Date: 2021-09-08 05:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:29 pm (UTC)My first thought is that a chart for the time and date when the supernova first becomes visible would be the primary chart to follow, and as with all mundane charts, it would vary in its effects by location on Earth.
The beginning of the dimming might be worth examining, however. Do you happen to know the time and date when the dimming was first noticed?
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:33 pm (UTC)Re: Wheels Keep Turning...
Date: 2021-09-08 05:34 pm (UTC)I also feel drawn to these and wondered if you have any good resources. I was raised Christian(Episcopalian) but haven't been to church in years. Have no interest there and am also a polytheist.
Thanks.
Just data, no opinion
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00575-4/fulltext#seccestitle140
"The estimated protection against repeat infection after previous SARS-CoV-2 infection was 80·5% (95% CI 75·4–84·5; table 1)."
The re-infected may have been mostly people over 65, as the discussion at the end of the study determines older (recovered) persons had less vigorous immune responses.
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:38 pm (UTC)He is saying that 30% of the population are hypnotized to focus on the fear of covid. Another 40% are going along, and the final 30% are awake, but through being a disparate grouping, not able to mount a credible challenge.
He maintains that there is no point trying to talk sense to those under control of hypnosis.
One thing that you can do however, to fight fire with fire so to speak, although possibly unethical, is to direct them to an even greater fear (such as societal collapse, or vaccine injury danger for instance). By fighting 'magic' with 'magic' you can break the spell, and focus their attention away from irrational covid fear. After you do that, you can then deconstruct their fear of covid. The aim here is to fight the bleak prospect of us getting 'locked out' of society.
I have some training in Neuro Linguistic Programming and it appears to make some sense to me. In NLP we can break an addiction for instance by getting the subject to break their anchor to an addiction through 'anchoring' them to the nasty consequences of their addiction. My question is; does this seem logical according to practitioners of magic in this group?
I have been trialing an approach to some 'New Normals' lately; I focus their attention on the forthcoming 'super virus' that the vaccine is creating, just like the super bugs that are created through inappropriate use of antibiotics. I use over simplistic and frightening imagery, and try to paint a terrifying vista in a few short sentences. Before I do this I make sure I use the basic tools of NLP to generate good rapport with the subject; 'we can all agree on what evil it was to invade Afghanistan to steal their drugs, then abandon our allies in such a way' for instance. Now the seed is sown, they agree the powers that be are inherently evil - then I go in for the kill. It's important not to go for the kill to early. First you follow the subject, you must come across as agreeable. After you generate rapport, you lead them, when the time is right you focus their fear on something bigger.
It appears we have a duty to hang together to fight this darkness, lest we end up hanging apart.
Here is the video - well worth a watch I think
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uh8J0b7wQGxQ/
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:42 pm (UTC)I'm not sure if this would be what you're looking for though.
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:55 pm (UTC)Also, erm..., Covid-19 might not have originated in the wild...
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 05:57 pm (UTC)Re: IncellDX, long covid with Epstein Barr Virus (mononucleosis)
Date: 2021-09-08 06:01 pm (UTC)I have had presumed Long Covid (mostly better now after 18 months, except for lingering chest wall tightness/tension triggered by physical exertion) too. I was tested for EBV and it was negative. I know that others with Long Covid are experiencing EBV reactivation though.
-beneaththesurface
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Date: 2021-09-08 06:02 pm (UTC)The physical debris from the supernova is unlikely to substantially affect Earth, although it could potentially mess with some stuff in the Kuiper belt and make an asteroid collision more likely. The etheric or astral fallout, I am unsure of. If Betelgeuse goes boom, the boom will be far too bright in the night sky (possibly even the daytime sky!) to be missed...
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 06:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 06:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 06:08 pm (UTC)-beneaththesurface
(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-08 06:09 pm (UTC)