Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

JMG, as a mundane astrologer, you might know this, but what would Betelgeuse going supernova indicate astrologically? I assume a lot of it would be related to the resulting charts, but are there things we can know in advance? What chart(s) would matter?

[ecosophia]

I'm going to have to research that. Fortunately there were several large and highly visible supernovas in the late Renaissance, which attracted a lot of attention from astrologers.

My first thought is that a chart for the time and date when the supernova first becomes visible would be the primary chart to follow, and as with all mundane charts, it would vary in its effects by location on Earth.

The beginning of the dimming might be worth examining, however. Do you happen to know the time and date when the dimming was first noticed?

[(Anonymous)]

No, but I know someone who will be able to determine this. I can ask and get it to you sometime this week or early next week.

[(Anonymous)]

Ben Davidson over at Suspicious Observers has a theory that the central sun sent out a magnetic sheath that will turn our sun's and planet's magnetics over and when that happens the sun will micro-nova. Betelgeuse is between us and the central sun, which is Sagittarius-A, so it went before we will. Once the poles flip our planet will stop and then rotate the other way. This will cause tsunamis on all of the west coasts of the earth and the sun will then rise in the west and set in the east. Drunvalo Malchezadeck also talked about this happening. It has been talked about by the Hopis and may be the origin of the great flood story.

[(Anonymous)]

That's...uh...not going to happen.

There is no force in the universe that could possibly reverse the rotation of our planet, although the magnetic poles can and do reverse with some regularity.

[(Anonymous)]

Begging your pardon, but I think you may not have correctly remembered what Ben said. First, some background. The more the astronomers look, the more they find nova that do not destroy the star. Next, the Sun produces a current sheet, with ripples above and below its equatorial plane. (While I generally don't care for WikiPedia, this is pretty useful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliospheric_current_sheet)

Ben claims there is a galactic current sheet emanating from the center of the Milky Way which is similar but far, far larger and more powerful than the Sun's. (I don't think he made that up, but I'd have to dig for references.) While the solar wind prevents buildup of much dust, debris or plasma between the Sun and Earth, the galactic current sheet goes through a lot of stuff in the Milky Way and pushes things along with it. Ben claims that the solar system passes through the galactic current sheet about every 12,000 years and that the dust, debris, plasma and energy in the galactic current sheet are sufficient to cause the Sun to produce a "micro nova". Ben's next claim is that the micro nova could couple enough energy into the Earth to unlock the mantle from the core, allowing the massive weight of ice on Greenland and Antarctica to move near the equator. Is he right? Who knows? How bad will it be if it does happen? Who knows? There is evidence that Greenland and Antarctica were once at least temperate if not warmer, so there is something going on. On the upside, humans have lived though it many times.

The dusty galactic current sheet hypothesis would explain Betelgeuse growing dim, flashing, then remaining dim, as the dusty wave propagates toward us.

[(Anonymous)]

This is the paper which first reports the phenomena as being worthy of notice: https://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=13341

I'm not sure if this would be what you're looking for though.

[open_space]

Here is a graph of the measured intensity. I assume it would be very close to the valleys bottom since dates report it to be October or December 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse#/media/File:Betelgeuse_AAVSO_2019.jpg

Perhaps not a supernova

[pam_in_florida]

Hubble Finds That Betelgeuse's Mysterious Dimming Is Due to a Traumatic Outburst

Observations by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope are showing that the unexpected dimming of the supergiant star Betelgeuse was most likely caused by an immense amount of hot material ejected into space, forming a dust cloud that blocked starlight coming from Betelgeuse's surface.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2020/hubble-finds-that-betelgeuses-mysterious-dimming-is-due-to-a-traumatic-outburst

[(Anonymous)]

not relating to it going supernova, but betelgeuse generally:

War and carnage are presaged by Betelgeuse. The star is indicative of great fortune, martial honors and “kingly” attributes. When rising or culminating the native will be a superior athlete, being endowed with outstanding agility and speed of body. Variable moods and the mind always anxious with the immediate problems of the day. When setting these anxieties may lead to a disturbed mind. Honors and titles will be given the native during his lifetime if the star is rising at birth. If setting, these honors and titles will not come until after death.[Fixed Stars and Judicial Astrology, George Noonan, 1990, p.45.]