Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 4

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Re: The Entity

[(Anonymous)]

If someone you knew were to have sold their soul, what would it look like? I ask because my mom has been involved in hard core TDS, and now pushes the Covid narrative on me really, really hard; she is absolutely adamant that I need a vaccine now, but that it is also entirely my choice, and has pushed this really, really hard.

I've also found that for years she would disrupt my spiritual practices, even if she had no way of knowing I was doing them; that she's somehow able to push all of my buttons, including saying things which seem cleverly designed to push my buttons, but only if she knew things she had no way of knowing; and has aggressively pushed against any effort I made to walk away from my miserable middle class life. I'd attributed it to the devouring mother archetype and a terror at the end of the myth of progress; but now I'm not sure.

As far as I know, she never did any of the rituals contained in the Magic Resistance; but if I had ever found out she was, my response would have been to walk to my landlord's office, break my lease then and there, call a friend in another city and get a place to crash while I sorted out a job there. (I'd also take nothing but the clothes on my back, and first chance I got get new ones and dispose of the old ones; I would take no chances here)

So, if she is under demonic influence, they'd want to keep it secret from me, because otherwise I'd bolt, and they'd lose their best link to me; so it's entirely possible she was involved; it's also possible that they found other uses for her that didn't involve magic.

The thing which disturbs me though is that I can date a precise day, back in June of 2015 when my mother suddenly acquired a very bad case of TDS, and seemingly acquired a new personality. I dismissed it as my imagination (I was a materialist atheist at the time), but in light of this, I can't help but wonder now if she sold her soul, and that change in personality was the demon moving in...

(If this is the case, it suggests the start of the process was back in 2015, which I think fits; TDS was well established by the time the election happened)

Re: The Entity

[ecosophia]

It's unlikely that the formal process was involved, because that takes ritual magic. On the other hand, demonic obsession is a possibility.

Re: The Entity

[open_space]

How to combat demonic obsession on a loved one?

Re: The Entity

[ecosophia]

Obsession is always at least partly voluntary, so all you can do -- unless you're a very experienced mage or an equally experienced mystic -- is pray.

Re: The Entity

[(Anonymous)]

What do you mean it's voluntary? Does this mean that victims of obsession can free themselves?

Re: The Entity

[ecosophia]

Yes, if they really want to. The problem is that they generally don't want to.

Obsession is only possible with the consent of the person obsessed -- demons are weak on the planes we inhabit and can't force their way in without that consent. Even if it's given, if the obsessed person refuses to cooperate and seeks spiritual help, the connection with the demon can be broken quite easily. In most cases, though, obsession is like addiction: the person in question chooses it, and until they stop choosing it, nothing and no one can change the situation.

Re: The Entity

[open_space]

How can we distinguish between demonic obsession and ordinary human self-sabotage? If the obsessed be willing to cut-off and accepted, would it be "quite easily" as in getting in touch with divine beings by prayer and perhaps a few family members praying for you? Or still under the category of for the very-experienced-easy?

Re: The Entity

[ecosophia]

Dion Fortune discusses the differential diagnosis of obsession in Psychic Self-Defence, which I'd recommend, if you're interested in this.

Re: The Entity

[open_space]

Definitely! Moved to the top of the stack.

Re: The Entity

[(Anonymous)]

What does it look like if someone who's obsessed decides to break free?

Re: The Entity

[ecosophia]

See my response to Open_space above.

Re: The Entity

[(Anonymous)]

What could experienced mystics do in that situation? I understand that a mage could do ritual.

Dot.

Re: The Entity

[ecosophia]

An experienced mystic, through prayer, can bring through the energies of the divine presence with quite a bit of force -- that's why miracles happen now and again around mystics. If he or she does that in the presence of the obsessed person, that makes conditions intolerable for the demon, and it leaves. The mystic can then pray for the person to be healed of those limitations of consciousness that made it possible for the demon to get a foothold, with a fair likelihood of success.

Re: The Entity

[kashtan]

Interesting that you mention June 2015, because that was the precise month when I had a major shift myself. No, it wasn't about Trump, I considered him a fringe candidate that had little chance of being elected until six months later or so, so I wasn't even thinking of him at the time. June 2015 was the month when California passed a law that eliminated exemptions for vaccine mandates. Even though I've never lived anywhere near California, hearing about it and that it was the Democrats that were the major push behind it was what "redpilled" me, though I wouldn't hear that term until several years later. I knew trends on the leftward side of things often begin in California and spread from there, so it was at that time that I realized that the left would be pushing an increasingly dangerous authoritarian agenda, and increasing vaccine mandates were bound to be a part of it and possibly what would eventually lead to a crisis. I actually think in retrospect that the trend started around 2012/2013, but it was June 2015 that I but together in my mind what was going on.

Before June 2015 I wasn't much of a fan of either party, but I still thought that Republicans were the worst (with a few exceptions such as Ron Paul), and the Democrats were at least marginally better. That ended that month. Even though I wasn't paying much attention to Trump yet, possibly the feelings associated with the start to his campaign influenced me on a more subtle level too. Anyway, that month was an important one in shaping the political landscape that continues through the present.

I should say that back in 2015 and 2016 I tried to deny what I was feeling, hoping that I was wrong and the Democrats weren't turning into the sort of authoritarians they've ended up becoming, but they've ended up fulfilling the worst of my fears that started at that point.

So, I find the hypothesis of people selling their souls after Trump's election interesting, and it would explain much of what's going on, but I also think things were being set in motion before that time.