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George W. CareyThose of my readers who've been along for the ride for a while now will be aware that I'm engaged in an ongoing research project focusing on biochemic cell salts -- an offshoot of homeopathic medicine that uses 1ppm dilutions of the twelve mineral salts found in appreciable amounts in the human body. Partly that's a reflection of the fact that I've been using the cell salts for my own home health care for more than thirty years now, with good results; a lot of it, however, relates to the extensive interface between the cell salts and traditional American occultism, which was largely the result of the gentleman on the left, George Washington Carey. 

Carey devised a protocol for using the cell salts to improve health and also activate certain subtle centers in the human energy body, notably the pineal and solar plexus centers. I've published the protocol here on Dreamwidth and also conducted a controlled study with volunteers recruited here, which found a statistically significant improvement in general health among the participants. (There's a summary of the whole project here.)  In between other projects, I'm continuing the research; I recently got a line on one of the rarest works to come out of Carey's school, and should have a copy shortly -- once I have it, I'll be writing more about the protocol and its uses. 

In the meantime, I've been studying Carey's work in detail -- you can find many of his writings free for the downloading here, if you're interested -- and noticing among other things how much precise knowledge about human anatomy and physiology he wove into his system. I noted, for example,  that he pointed out (in his book The Chemistry of Human Life) that infectious respiratory diseases of the sort that cause lung inflammation could be treated by regular doses of two of the cell salts, Ferrum phos. 6x and Nat. sulph. 6x, four tablets each four times a day under the tongue, or as often as every fifteen minutes in acute cases. He also pointed out that illnesses that affected the epithelial cells lining the blood vessels, and caused problems with blood clots, could be treated by two others, Calc. sulph 6x and Kali mur. 6x, given with the same dosage and frequency.

All of which, of course, is passed on here as a matter of historical interest only. I am certainly not recommending that anyone use this approach in place of of standard medical treatment prescribed by a legally authorized health care provider. (If you happen to live in a state or country where naturopathy or homeopathy are legal, and your legally licensed naturopath or homeopath prescribes these, well, that's another matter and it's none of my business...)

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Date: 2021-08-08 03:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
I recall somewhere in the historical literature covering homeopathy that if cell salts are taken too much it could cause what it was trying to cure. Does Carey mention if with "as often as every fifteen minutes" had an upper limit in the patients that he treated?

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Date: 2021-08-08 04:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Fascinating. So after that they would go back to 4 doses until symptoms disappeared completely or stopped taking them altogether? That's such a weird way of doing medicine back then. We've progressed so much!

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Date: 2021-08-08 04:50 am (UTC)
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Interesting, I would hope for modern doctors to grab a history book and learn about how personalized medicine is done, I bet some modern methods would fit nicely with, you know, Carey'ing about the patient. I can't believe all the pirouettes they do to not even touch the patient. Now they even want AI to do it for them...

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Date: 2021-08-09 03:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Noted and downloaded. Such great statements from a book on the history of remedies! Even in the dedication. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it I guess. I'm sorry to say, J.B Chapman would be horrified had he had a glimpse of the future.

"To the millions of afflicted ones, who long have suffered under the old and pernicious practice of dispensing poisonous drugs, and who have waited anxiously for relief to come --this book is lovingly dedicated."

"All the essential component parts of the human body are great remedies".

"[...] and one who dissents from the accepted view is considered heretical. [...] from disease it becomes and at times very serious" from page 282. That's, quite timely isn't it and somewhat prophetic.

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Date: 2021-08-08 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] robertmathiesen
I remember those days!

Sometime in late 1950 or early 1951, when I was 8, I became ill to the point of total delerium with double pneumonia. I stayed in bed at home. and was visited once or twice a day by the town physician, who spent much of his day making house calls, and the rest of the time treating patients in a small office that was a part of his home. There was no hospital in the small town then, and probably there still isn't one there now. My pneunonia was treated with sulfa drugs, since the town physician couldn't get penicillin.

The one time I did have to go to a hospital (to have my [ruptured?] appendix out) a few years earlier, it was a pretty unpleasant week. The children's surgical recovery ward was kept quite dimly lit all day long, and we were not allowed to have anything to read, or any visits from parents, or indeed to interact much at all with anyone, even the nurses and the other children. When I asked why--I was that sort of child, always asking why--I was told that emotions got in the way of recovery, and the children in the ward would become too excited and happy if they could see their parents!!! Sounds crazy, right? Yet that seems to have been the medical norm back then, at least in that part of NY state.

The operation left me with am angry vertical scar that ran almost from my pelvis to the bottom of my ribcage, and it itched fiercely under its pink plastic[!?] dressing for a week or two after I came home. (I have grown much taller since then, of course; the scar did not lengthen in proportion as I grew.)

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Date: 2021-08-14 09:35 am (UTC)
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It's very untasteful to me that hospitals feel like laboratories and the patients treated as lab rats! A hospital should be cozy outside of the surgery room and the other stuff where they need sterility.

the Carey experiment

Date: 2021-08-08 12:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomactsofkarmasc
If we wanted to participate in the Carey experiment you linked to and the protocol in "The Biochemic System of Medicine" for a specific issue includes one of the same salts (interesting synchronicity...), for the Moon days, would we take the Moon dose AND the other protocol dose or just the larger of the two doses or would it be better to treat the issue first and then participate in the experiment later?

Re: the Carey experiment

Date: 2021-08-08 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you very much!

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Date: 2021-08-08 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi John Michael
Sorry - a bit off topic but related
may I recommend a book (the author is suitably dead)
Contoll of the Circulation
by Erdman
not an occultist but an amazing massage practitioner
who claims to have healed almost everything with simple massage protocol (warming or cooling the spinal nerves.)
I've used and sometimes the results are startling.
His case histories are sublime; something like
"Mr X was given up by his doctors but a course of treatment restores him to total health.
However he did need a short follow up 32 years later"
Worth reading for the case histories alone but the protocol is simple and effective
best
Lurksalong

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Date: 2021-08-08 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ilona9
I searched for the book Control of the Circulation by Frederick Erdman and found listings (published 1956) but I cannot find a copy of the book. I did find an interesting website:

http://www.erdman.org/
https://www.erdman.org/index.htm

A copy of the book might be available on archive.org, but I don't know how to search for it properly. If anyone finds it, please let me know. I'm interested for myself and also for a friend who is a massage therapist.

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Date: 2021-08-08 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I searched extensively via Archive.org and others and could not find it. Via WorldCat, it’s apparent that it is in several US university libraries and the Library of Congress. Otherwise it seems quite difficult to come by.

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Date: 2021-08-09 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I searched extensively via Archive.org and others and could not find it. Via WorldCat, it’s apparent that it is in several US university libraries and the Library of Congress. Otherwise it seems quite difficult to come by.

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Date: 2021-08-09 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Try this

https://www.handspringbodywork.com/erdmantherapy

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Date: 2021-08-08 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks, JMG. This is terrific information. I'm going on the 5th month of the regimen for my natal Sun sign and decan.

I haven't seen any changes, but I've learned over the years that one often doesn't really see changes until years later. That's why I've learned to note the dates of new endeavors like this one.

In many ways, we were much better off before our country became over-centralized.

Jon

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Date: 2021-08-08 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for this vital bit of history! Very eager to learn more about the rare acquisition from the Carey archives.
Jim W

Update

Date: 2021-08-08 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for the update! Especially the historical curiosity re using cell salts for blood clots.
Thank you for making this information available.

FYI - I started the cell salt protocol near the beginning of the study. During that time, I've worked to eat better (healthier & more local/regional foods), cut back on sugar (with little or no effort, but also because of greater awareness of how I feel when I consume more than a limited amount). I have no idea if the protocol has an effect on awareness or reducing cravings for unhealthy 'foods' or in any other way - I feel strongly that it has helped & it certainly hasn't caused harm.

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Date: 2021-08-08 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As long as we’re on the topic of cell salts, just wanted to mention that last month I was visiting my elderly parents in Michigan and went by the family owned health food store I have shopped at for a very long time. I was very pleased to see a fully stocked display of cell salts for the first time! The owners said they were requested by regular customers and they have been doing very well with sales. That’s positive!

However I was dismayed to discover that Hyland’s had discontinued their Teething Tablets! Those worked a miracle when my daughters were teething. They had in stock a German homeopathic product they said worked OK and cost a whole lot more. What are the mamas of grouchy babies in pain going to do now?

SundaraYogaShala

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Date: 2021-08-09 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] barefootwisdom
Taking this, together with the months-long shortages of some of the cell salts I've noted over the last year, I'd say it's well past time!

Though given the larger climate around the medical industry, this also seems like the worst possible time for *advertising* such a new venture...

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Date: 2021-08-09 12:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG,

This is probably a very silly question, but... when a protocol says something like, "Kali Phos 3" can you buy "Kali Phos 6" and split the tablet? Or does it not work that way?

AV

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Date: 2021-08-09 12:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yuccaglauca
Since I'm interested in that period of American occultism, I was researching a little of this history myself, but I found a few things confusing, particularly regarding the details of how Carey's recommendations may or may not have varied from later figures.

For example, I read in Formur's The Biochemic Handbook, "When two or more salts are needed they should be taken in alternation," (P. 8).

So when you mention that Carey would have said, "four tablets each four times a day," do you happen to know if he would have meant eight tablets at once four times a day, or alternating sets of four throughout the day?

And if he were to describe something involving four total salts, would that go up to sixteen at once or be split differently?
Edited Date: 2021-08-09 12:31 am (UTC)

Thank you

Date: 2021-08-09 12:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] claire_58
Many thanks JMG. This has certainly sparked my historical interest in cell salt therapies. I've also downloaded the Chemistry of Human Life.

Re: Thank you

Date: 2021-08-09 06:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] claire_58
Great, thanks again. That's where my main interest lies.

Re: Thank you

Date: 2021-08-11 04:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] claire_58
I've downloaded that one too and I've discovered that it's the main reference for one of my favourite tissue salt books. He's the man in that field.

Carey Books

Date: 2021-08-09 01:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG - I am not active in these type of health practices but can't help but be intrigued by 'Chemistry of Human Life' and the mentioned respiratory angle which I will give a serious look into.

Looking at the Carey site you linked I read his short 'The Anti-Christ', would you agree with his biblical re-definitions and his overall historical view?

I see The Tree of life looks like it expands on the above. Would this add constructive insight into to our tarot work?

The God-man looks like a great read to look into also.

Dennis G

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Date: 2021-08-09 02:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lp9
Thank you for this information! I'm still having good results with the cell salt experiment, having started on March 24,2020 (next round of extra salts is Tuesday). I have also found that sometimes if I am really dragging I will take four extra Bioplasma before my evening practices and my SOP is always super powerful on those nights.

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Date: 2021-08-09 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] barefootwisdom
For whatever it's worth, I've had similar experiences with adding the extra Bioplasma later in the day.

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Date: 2021-08-09 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I tried this a little while ago. Was rather lagging and struggling. It took two doses about 15min apart, but afterward I not only had the energy to focus and do it properly, but to go deep. My guess, if I were to hypothesize, is that a dose of bioplasma, under the right circumstances, “pretreats” the astral crud - rather like putting soap on a stain and leaving it to sit before putting it into the wash.

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Date: 2021-08-09 04:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
I am relatively new to this kind of stuff, but very intrigued. Any tips on how to find somewhere local to get cell salts?

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Date: 2021-08-09 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If you are in the US, you can get BioPlasma through Vitamin Shoppe. As far as the other salts, I bought mine through the two links in the first post of the cell salt series, but if you need a sampler, Vitamin Shoppe also has small vials of the salts available (mind the concentration and make sure you are getting 6x).

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Date: 2021-08-12 05:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
Thanks very much! I've been trying to cut back on what I'm buying online and do more local shopping, and we have a Vitamin Shoppe nearby, so I might check them out.

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Date: 2021-08-09 09:33 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG, are you planning to write a book on cell salts at some stage or is that too risky in the current climate?

As for stockists, I find I-herb is good.

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Date: 2021-08-17 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Reporting in that I received my cell salts direct from Hylands and started taking them on Sunday. Have my moon dates marked in the calendar this month and taking notes. Wish I had started with the first go round and thanks for leaving the porch light on for me.

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