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Before I go ahead and change anything, I'd like to make sure the following is okay within the Ovate Grade of the CGD: I find that the banishings I do don't last long enough, and that the LIRP and LBRP are ideal at different times of day: the LIRP is best early in the day, and the LBRP at night. So I'm considering switching to doing the LIRP in the mornings and the LBRP in the evenings; are there concerns with doing this?

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You can certainly do that if you like; I know of no problems with it.

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andrewskeen

Good evening Arch-Druid,

I really like embroidery; the more I practice, the more potential applications I see, magical talismans and devotional ikons both. Are you aware of any issues with making embroidered talismans using e.g. linen fabric? Or would you recommend avoiding linen/silk for explicitly enchanted items and sticking to cotton? I'm assuming this wouldn't matter for ikons or other devotional items.

Thank you as always for Magic Monday, it's a real treat.

Best,
Andrew

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I'm not aware that anyone has experimented with this, so the best thing to do would be to try various things, see what gets the best results, and share that with others. That's how our knowledge of magic grows...

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andrewskeen

So noted. I will report back here when I know more! (though this might take some years...)

From: (Anonymous)

An observation and some lore from Onmyodo / Taoism.

Observation) As far as I can tell, silk is actually a top rate magical conductor, not an insulator, at least in its raw or thread forms. Once it's been woven, what appears to happen is it begins to behave more like a magical faraday cage than a true insulative material. This would go some distance towards explaining why it seems both healthy and vital in ways that other insulators (like concrete and plastic) don't. Finally, I've noticed that thread-bare silk really doesn't seem to protect as well as a fresh piece, which is congruent with the idea of a matrix / faraday-cage behavior.

Lore) Embroidered talismans were explicitly used in a number of east asian systems. The most exoterically well known are the Mandarin Squares introduced to China under the Yuan dynasty. It's pretty common in japan to have a Mon (think family crest) embroidered on silk clothing. In onmyodo, this is taken a step further with things like planetary emblems (with the appropriate color robe of course) or sometimes even things like representation of spiritual aspirations, this latter for most likely providing the rational for the Yuan patterns too. I think that by intentionally interweaving the pattern with the silk, it overcomes the insulation effect as described above, and begins to behave like a normal etheric capacitor.

Good luck with this project, hopefully we'll get to see your results!

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This is fascinating, thank you.

I've been making small drawstring bags out of silk for my four tarot decks. I sew them by hand using cotton thread. So far I've completed three bags.

Yesterday I was sewing the fourth bag using silk thread for a change, and a meditation began to form in my mind.

I take a piece of fabric, measure, cut and fold it, stitch the seams, and make it into a new shape. My imagination, will and skill create this three dimensional object out of a flat piece of cloth.

This is a magical working.

Metaphorically, my life is a fabric woven by the Three Fates. With each stitch in time, my destiny is revealed and my purpose unfolds. My acts of creation alter the inner and outer worlds in tiny but meaningful ways.

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Anonymous, may I ask, what is the source of your knowledge or information about Onmyodo?

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Most of the people who practice that system are ridiculously discrete about it. Witch hunts may be a distant thing to westerners, but Onmyoji were the victim of Japan's only witch hunt; and that was during WWII.

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This is why I am asking (and I see that you’ve side stepped the question, which is your right, of course). I once met someone who came from a lineage of Onmyodo practicioners and it was his first experience of magical practice— and though he is still involved in esoteric activities of a different sort, it was clear he wouldn’t touch Onmyodo again with a ten foot barge pole. The state of the art seems to have been corrupted, with practitioners who engage in a lot of cursing (hence his distaste for it). Although I don’t know in any detail. Later that day, I idly said to my wife “once my Japanese improves sufficiently, wouldn’t it be interesting to study Onmyodo”— and exactly at that moment, as I spoke that sentence, was the one and only time that a fly just up and flew into my mouth in the sixteen years I’ve been in Japan, and I coughed and coughed to get it out. That was a message if I’ve ever seen one. It’s clear that regardless of the accuracy of any speculations about Onmyodo’s current state, the barriers to entry extend well beyond the material. This is why I was asking; I’m interested in how and why you would know these kinds of details at all.

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A while back, I asked about dealing with my mother, and you gave me good practical advice. I've realized now why you didn't give me the advice I was seeking, for occult methods of assisting with my goal: too many people skip material plane actions.

I will be moving out in July, and from there will systematically cut all ties with her, and the rest of my family as needed. This will not be easy, and I fully expect to need to deal with resistance from her; my question is thus not meant to replace material action, but to supplement it.

Are there occult methods which can be used with the level of training I have working through the Ovate Grade of the CGD to assist in severing the relationship I have with my mother?

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Not at the Ovate level. In the Celtic GD system, you don't start doing practical magic until the Druid grade. (This is standard in the GD tradition generally; in the Hermetic GD students didn't start work on practical magic until they reached the Adeptus Minor level.)

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For someone who has finished LRM and is now working through CoP/PoW, is there any problem with starting practical workings as soon as one has learned the relevant ceremonies?

In my case, I have learned the Rose Cross pretty well, am practicing the basic and elemental Opening/Closing, and the GIRP. I have identified which ritual modules I need in order to consecrate talismans, and am looking forward to trying it (although it is still many months of practice away).

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Not at all. Once you're working with Circles of Power, practical workings are an essential part of the curriculum. As soon as you can open and close a temple and perform the relevant invokings and banishings, that's your next step.

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OK, so I'm not just getting too big for my britches.
Thanks always for this forum and for the wonderful books!

From: (Anonymous)

I've been consistently meditating for a while now... and they seem to be propagating exponentially. I feel like I'm swimming in a sea of meditation topics now. My original method was to make a list, but the list is getting really long. Is that just how it is? Or do you have any recommendations for knowing what to focus on besides some mixture of curriculum and intuition? Is this what it is like as a magician, to be swimming in an ocean of fascinating little secrets you just don't have time to chase them all down?

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That's just how it is -- especially for the first few years. You just have to get used to it. In terms of choosing topics for practice, I tend to choose a specific book or study course or set of symbols I want to work with, and focus on that for an extended period -- my current source of meditation topics, for example, is an old book on occultism that'll take me around three years to go through, pretty much paragraph by paragraph and in some places line by line.

From: (Anonymous)

Alright, thank you. I'm currently working on DMH/DH, but I was also interested in Astrology. Should I hold off until I'm all the way through DMH curriculum before I start reading about that sort of thing?

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No, you can read anything you like, and if you want to begin learning how to practice astrology that's fine too. The important thing is to stick to one system of magical practice at a time; astrology is divinatory, not magical.

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Is astrological magic, as in the Picatrix or Chris Warnock's correspondence courses, compatible with GD magic, or would it be best to take one at a time?

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They're compatible, and in fact a fusion of the two works better than either one by itself. Elect two good dates and times, one for making and the other for consecrating a talisman; make the talisman during the first, wrap it in silk or linen, and then on the second election do a full GD-style talisman consecration ritual. You'll see remarkable results. (You can also make a so-so election work very well with proper ritual, or simply make and consecrate the talisman in the right planetary hour.)

From: (Anonymous)

Intuition is your best friend. The fact that you've already met it and are willing to take its advice promises to make your contemplations eventually flow out optimally and effortlessly. Sometimes, you may find the least promising and most insistently distracting topic turns out to be the key to unlocking the flow of all the other, more obviously promising ponderings. That particular advertising jingle from your childhood may keep replaying endlessly for you to unpack some hidden secret in it. Or it may just be a distraction! Trust your intuition — it knows where you're meant to go.

Following a curriculum is a brilliant way to ensure that you are in fact exercising your will, rather than just watching the scenery pass by as you float along with the flow (not that that can't be a useful practice on occasion as well.)

We're all always swimming in an ocean of so many secrets we can't possibly pursue them all. What it's like as a magician is to begin to understand which ones you're meant to pursue, which ones to ignore, and which ones to ride like a mighty wave towards your destination. We're all practicing magic all the time, whether we know it or not. What magicians do differently than most people is to practice methodically enough to begin to get the hang of it — a little technique, a whole lot of effort, and just a splash of awed wonder is all it takes. Enjoy the swim!

— Christophe

From: (Anonymous)

I am rapidly starting to, thank you.

From: (Anonymous)

What planet rules bad faith?

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Depends on the specific mode of bad faith. If it's the temporary expedient of a liar, it's Mercury; if it's a long-term or permanent condition, Saturn.

From: (Anonymous)

Do you know if Pluto ruled bad faith while it was a planet?

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It seems to have ruled self-deception, certainly.

From: (Anonymous)

Does this mean that as Pluto fades out self deception will become less frequent?

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That's one of the things we'll have to wait and see about. On the other hand, self-deception was fairly common before Pluto was discovered...

From: (Anonymous)

OK, so what's up with Saturn ruling over long-term liars? Is Saturn prone to such lying, either to himself or his devotees? Does Saturn regularly deal in bad faith with his supplicants? Is this something to be on the watch for when dealing with Saturn, like knowing that Mercury enjoys playing the trickster? Yikes, that would add a whole new level of complexity to a god I thought I knew!

— Christophe

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No, no, calm down. Saturn's style of bad faith is the sort of thing you see, for example, in what intelligence agencies call a "mole" -- an agent who lives a lie over the long term, for reasons of his or her own. It's the bad faith of someone who has a hidden life or a habit they won't talk about, not the bad faith of a common or garden variety liar. Just as a good mole is utterly faithful to the spy agency that hires him, and people who have hidden lives will go to immense lengths to keep doing whatever habit they don't reveal to anyone else, Saturn is perfectly reliable -- he just doesn't talk about things to those who don't need to know.

From: (Anonymous)

Aha! So Saturn rules over the fourth pillar of "to keep silent." That makes a great deal of sense. As the creator of abundance, the three in one, the empat muka (four faces looking out in all directions), he would be the silent one. That is a particularly useful form of bad faith — hidden projects, hidden strategies, and hidden lives.

Like a mole, Saturn can choose which face he shows to whom, while continuing to keep watch in all directions. I do think that makes him a pretty wily god to wrangle with. He probably has limited respect for those who go around blurting out everything uncensored. As a matter of fact, I doubt he would have much respect for a worshiper who shared everything in his prayers. That would be Yahweh's shtick, after all, not Saturn's.

Who knew there was a god of holding your cards close to your chest? Saturn probably rather enjoys the challenge of not knowing exactly what we're up to. I'll be a bit more circumspect with him from now on to try to up the challenge. And I rather expect he'll return the favor in spades. Ha ha! This could be quite fun.

— Christophe

From: (Anonymous)

It seems like each of the planets roughly match a pillar, if you consider their personalities:
To know: Mercury
To will: Venus
To dare: Mars
To keep the silence: Jupiter

Very interesting.

From: (Anonymous)

I would not assign silence to Jupiter. It seems to me that as the planet of abundance, Jupiter rules blabbermouths, not those with the ability to shut up!

From: (Anonymous)

I meant Saturn. That's embarrassing.

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Would Venus rule the lies told to try to protect another's feelings?

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A fine topic for meditation!

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I already added it to the list!

From: (Anonymous)

Dear JMG:

I'll make this quick, so my cats live in the study where I meditate and perform the LBRP. One of my cats died sometime today in my study (I'm still processing this experience). Because she passed away in the study where I do my esoteric work 1) what is going to be the effect of death in my study, and 2) what would happen to her spirit if I continue to do the LBRP and other ritual in that space (assuming her spirit still lingers in there)? I don't know if any trials occur for cats in the afterlife, but I ask you to pray that she reach her intended goal safely, her name was Daisie Lynn. Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,
Cody.

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My prayers will be with her. You should practice your rituals somewhere else for three days if you can, so she can get through the Second Death undisturbed; after that, it'll be fine for you to resume practice, and there shouldn't be any lasting issues.

From: (Anonymous)

Would the Egyptian mummification of cats interfere with their Second Death? Or with humans too for that matter?

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Yes, in both cases -- that, or rather that combined with the rituals that were also done for the dead, had that intended effect.

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Prayers for Daisie Lynn! I firmly believe animals have souls.

From: (Anonymous)

I am so sorry for your loss! My prayers are with Daisie Lynn and her companions.

--Sister Crow

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Hey jmg

Do you by any chance know of symbol-systems that can do exactly what the tree of life does, which would be to act as a map of the spiritual macro and microcosm?

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There are quite a few of them. Did you have anything more specific in mind?

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I’m thinking of anything that is equal in practical and theoretical application and complexity to the tree of life.

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Any shamanic system of overworlds and underworlds is comparable; the same is true of Hindu cosmology (and then some!) and Taoist cosmology. Western, Indian, Chinese, and Mesoamerican astrology also qualify. All of these and many others provide detailed maps of the macrocosm and microcosm, and have comparable application and complexity to the Tree of Life.

From: (Anonymous)

Norse-oriented: Diana Paxson's map of The World-Tree and the Nine Worlds, including the Well of Mimir and the halls of the Aesir and Asynjur

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Another good example.

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Hi JMG, I had an idea flash into my mind recently that the Catholic Eucharistic elements might map to the classical elements. My best guess after pondering this is bread (body) = air + fire, and wine (blood) = water + earth. Reason being that the flour comes from the aerial parts of the wheat and is heated/fired to transform it into bread. The grapes carry the terroir into the finished wine, transformed by yeast and suspended in water. Is there anything to this idea? I would like to explore this more If there is a resource your would recommend

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Hmm! I don't happen to know what resources there are on the symbolism of the Eucharist, but that makes sense. Can any of my Catholic or Orthodox readers help here?

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I was taught out of the old catechism, in which the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ, no more, no less. So I don’t think it has any correspondences, although there ain’t no telling what the new improved catechism might say! If you use it, though, be aware all the new rites have weak, spiritual power. Good luck in your research!

From: (Anonymous)

The Catholic church has scrapped transubstantiation too?

I guess it's just another Protestant church now...

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No, and
Even so, pretty much.

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Technically, no, it hasn't scrapped transubstantiation. But like a lot, it has focused on other aspects of the Eucharist, to the point that many Catholics, as individuals, no longer believe in transubstantiation. At, and after, the Second Vatican Council, there was a tendency to adopt a liberal version of ecumenism, where all Catholic distinctive beliefs and practices were de-emphasized in the rather mistaken notion that this would foster the reunification of Western Christians. So, it gives a strong appearance of Protestantism in Catholic garb, and is for many now. Officially, though, they try to maintain continuity with past doctrine and practice.

From: (Anonymous)

I don't have any written resources to offer, only my own insights arrived at within clouds of frankincense and the glow of candles over twelve years serving as an acolyte. I think the bread and wine each reflect one element while the other parts of the ritual reflect the other two elements, bringing all four into balance through the communion ritual.

Bread is fire and wine is water. The priest offering them up and blessing them is channeling the element of air or spirit. The parishioner is earth, consuming the fire and water given freely by air. By reenacting this consumption by and burial in the body, the four elements come into communion with each other. Ideally, they find a new balance there in the recipient, achieving a rising up in rebirth.

Hence, the gifts of impassioned nurturing and euphoric quenching draw the spirit of caring into a grounded vessel where they get dissolved so they can then coagulate back into a more balanced life. Communion would then be a reenactment of the great passion at the core of Christianity — a loving god, giving up of his abundant self in order to heal his flawed creation and alleviate its suffering (unfortunately, at some point, fire and brimstone got snuck in too, probably in Saul of Tarsus' confusing epistles.)

Not sure if that will be a useful metaphor for any less smoke-addled minds than mine. My church had to post warnings in the bulletin the week before we would be burning frankincense so that those allergic to the smoke or the kind of ecstatic reverie it obviously induced in me could find another place to worship. There's nothing quite like allowing your body to become the focal point around which a smoking thurible swings, transforming life-giving oxygen into a burnt offering, wafting up to god all around you. Ahhhh, how beautiful! Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

— Christophe

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While it does not address the classical elements, this is an excellent article on the Eucharist: http://www.gnosis.org/gnosis_eucharist1.html. I will add a disclaimer: I do not agree with everything the author writes in that article but, overall, I think it is a good read for anyone interested in the mystical and occult dimensions of the Eucharist.

From: (Anonymous)

Thank you and thanks to the community. There’s much to meditate here. (OP)

From: (Anonymous)

The short answer is that anything could be mapped onto the classical elements, but in this case it isn't supposed to. The longer answer is significantly more involved. First, the wine isn't pure wine, it's watered down as part of the ceremony. You have three elements to the communion, so it doesn't translate cleanly onto the normal four. Secondly, while there are a number of Tetrads in Christian theology, the elements aren't among them. Elemental theory did begin to influence catholic theology through Aristotle by way of the scholastic movement, but the form and understanding of the communion rite was well established long before then. The Eucharist is explicitly understood to be a sacrifice, in the classical sense of the term. It is the center point of the church's liturgical calendar, and the place where all elements of the faith are brought together, as well as man before god.

Leaving Christianity though, ceremonial consumption of both wine and bread existed in a number of systems at the time of the early church; most notably the Eleusinian and Dionysian cults. I take it as a given, if one is willing to be honest about how syncretic Christianity is, that their understandings of the rite would have had an at least unspoken influence on the entire order of affairs. That understanding; seeing the entire process of nature passing through grain, followed by the entire process of human civlization passing through bread-making, and seeing the uninhibited depths of the human psyche through wine (too say nothing of the same natural symbols as above) all be compressed into a single life-sustaining ritual that will be replicated less solemly multiple times through the rest of the week. The elements too make life, and sustain it. You have caught onto a really important connection, it just happens to be one that strays well outside of mainstream theological thought.

Regrading resources, the catholic catechism is the authoritative resource on their views and should be available online,
The Orthodox have a lovely primer on the subject here:
https://www.oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/worship/the-sacraments/holy-eucharist
Pseudo-Dionysius is generally regarded as the highlight of Orthodox mystical theology. Anything attributed to him should be good, if not necessarily Eucharist focused.

You can find entire books on the subject under the name "sacramental theology" if you feel so inclined.

Finally, The independent sacramental movement has a number of mystics, some of whom have certainly written something about this, though I can't point to a particular resource.

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I would reverse the symbolism. If you start with body and blood, the body represents the feminine elements of Earth and Water, because it's solid (earth), mobile (water), and the receptacle of the spirit. Blood represents the masculine elements of Fire and Air, because it's hot (fire) and mobile (air). Blood also conducts oxygen (pneuma, breath/spirit) and is the source of energy (passion, thymos, fire).

From there you can incorporate the view that Jesus's Body (Earth), Blood (Water), Soul (Air), and Divinity (Fire) are all present in the Eucharist.

The thing about symbol sets, whether it's the four elements, the seven planets, the twelve signs, the 10 spheres of the Tree of Life, is that you can use them to categorize ANYTHING. The other thing is that while there are bad ways to do it, there is often more than one good way. The seven sacraments correspond to the seven sacraments in a pretty straightforward way: Baptism: Moon; Confession: Mercury; Communion: Sun; Confirmation: Mars; Matrimony: Venus; Holy Orders: Jupiter; Extreme Unction: Saturn.

On the other hand, you could also view Confession as Martial, because it's a kind of fiery purification, and Confirmation as Mercurial, because it involves a re-naming. That view probably works better for churches in which Confirmation occurs at the same time as Baptism, as the Moon and Mercury are the two lowest spheres and thus the first two steps on the ladder of initiation. Unless we know which view the church fathers had in mind, neither interpretation is "correct;" both are useful. But a system which assigned Extreme Unction to Venus, Baptism to Mars, and Communion to Mercury would not be very useful.

From: (Anonymous)

Are you familiar with autogenic training? It was developed in the 20ies from a form of self-hypnosis and is still being practized by a lot of people.

Are there similiar problems as with mindfullnes meditation or could it be a useful practice?

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Not JMG but)

I have a reasonable familiarity autogenics, though my practice has been focused more towards hypnosis. First thing to know about autogenics as taught by Schultz, is the assumption that somebody involved in the process (ideally a therapist, acceptably the patient) has read a very large manual about how the practice works, and is familiar with a large number of contingencies and modifications if something goes wrong. Schultz's student Luthe, removed much of this material and heavily simplified it when he began publishing in English. A Psychiatrist of my acquaintance has mixed feelings about the German system and regards the English/British one as unusable and dangerously broken.

Personally, I've had excellent results with self-hypnosis, so I thought it would be fun to experiment with autogenics, and I was wrong. Subjectively, it feels nothing like hypnosis. The sensations of warmth and heaviness are present in some forms of hypnosis but are not the dominant focus, and the mind engages with the process in a completely different manner. In most forms of self-hypnosis, some kind of discussion with the un/sub-conscious mind is a dominant part of the process, which is completely absent in autogenic training.

Autogenics left me feeling like I was partially asleep and underwater even after the session ended. More horrifically, it temporarily destroyed my ability to manipulate etheric/vital energies with breathing, which left me feeling like I had no control over my body outside of the same autogenic techniques. Finally, I had heart and breathing problems start to form if I missed a session; like I was in need of another "hit" to keep functioning. Normally hypnosis of course benefits from regular practice, but I've never had anything even remotely come close to such an unpleasant experience.

This might be an abnormally bad reaction, and I do have other esoteric work in my past, but I wouldn't recommend it. And the fact a physician who is normally quite open to this sort of thing regards it as dangerously broken makes me feel stupid for even making the attempt. I suspect this practice is the victim of the same cultural trends that created mindfullness meditation, and is thus a perfect analogue to it, even if not identical. Your mileage may vary though.

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Thank you!

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That's not something I'm familiar with at all, sorry.

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realmscryer

Good Evening JMG,

A question regarding The Dolmen Arch. I am practicing the exercise in Gradd Y Damcaniwr of learning to see phantom complementary colors. The expected complementary colors appeared readily from the initial attempts, though they look like a ring or aura around the painted dot. When I shift my gaze to white paper they then appear as the solid phantom dot of complementary color as expected.

Is the aura-like ring meeting the intention of the exercise? If not I shall endeavor to hover the color! I ask as it appears the paint is overpowering the phantom color so maybe I am only seeing an outer ring as a result?

I also wanted to verify imagining the phantom nature is the expectation for the Ocean of Color and Color Breathing exercises. Getting the same level of intensity as the physical paint may take a while. I have perceived vivid colors in my imagination before but usually in daydream or deeper trance like states.

On a different note, do you find interest in learning or participating in occult practices and interest in professional magical services (divination, spellcasting, talismans, ...) to be somewhat independent phenomena? If interest is waning on the learning side does it mean necessarily demand for professional services is in decline?

My guess is demand in each might be somewhat inverse or maybe not connected. People might value the services but don't have time, energy, or interest to figure out how to do it themselves.

Thanks,

Monochrome Vitriolic Skunk

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1) Don't worry about getting the imagined colors to any particular level of intensity; that comes with time and practice. If you're getting the "auric ring" you've gotten the point of the exercise.

2) They're correlated, but the supply of professional occult services increases and declines along with popular interest. Thus those people who stuck with occultism after the 1929 implosion of the Theosophical Society, and offered professional services, had much less competition than they had faced during the boom times, and even though the market for such services contracted there was still enough of a market that they did fine.

-- Persimmon Gibbering Mermaid

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Hi JMG,

I've been pondering the recent movements for recognition of transgender, nonbinary and other special gender or sexual identities. In particular, there has been a huge wave of people undertaking surgery and hormone treatment to better match what they see as their true self.

The sexes of a person's physical, etheric and astral bodies tend to vary. Could it be that some of the people feeling gender angst are experiencing an attunement with their subtle forms? It makes sense to me that this big wave of medicalization is happening because in a society that strenuously denies all realities but the material, people who feel an opposite-sex embodiment can't integrate the experience spiritually, but instead conclude that they must alter their physical bodies to match what they feel.

It's also noteworthy that the epicenters of this phenomenon are large Western cities where people are rootless and atomized to the extreme. It makes me wonder if the spiritually barren landscape, like a sensory deprivation tank, is producing spontaneous spiritual experiences that people can't make sense of. What do you think?

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I think there are a lot of factors going on here. First, the human population of the planet is so high that very few of us get to spend any significant amount of time out of incarnation, and so a lot of people are being born with strong subconscious memories of their last incarnation still mostly intact. That probably plays a large role in gender dysphoria. I suspect you're also right that spontaneous spiritual experiences misunderstood by the experiencers are also involved.

But there's another huge factor that needs to be taken into account: the medical industry is heavily marketing the transgender phenomenon, for crassly financial reasons. Everyone who gets convinced by doctors and counselors that they're transgender is a permanent customer for pharmaceuticals, surgeries, and the cascading medical and psychiatric services that follow on from those. Since more and more people are backing away from corporate medicine these days, finding new ways to lock people into their services is an essential part of the medical industry's strategy.

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It is not that long ago that sex change surgery (as it was called then) was very hard to obtain in the United States. Some surgeries were done in Denmark, or in Japan or other parts of Asia. In the US most doctors both believed that transsexuals were mentally ill and that physical treatments were inappropriate, and they feared that they could be criminally charged for the crime of "mayhem" for removing a healthy body part. A few researchers were studying and treating trans people--I think there was a program at Johns Hopkins University, but I know most about the program at Stanford Medical School in the early 1970s. Patients were required to undergo psychological testing and review to determine how long standing and persistent their sense of opposite sex identity was. Once accepted into the program they would begin to receive hormone treatment which would cause some redistribution of fatty tissue--i.e. feminine hips and breasts, and reduced thickness of beard growth and other body hair. However for most male to female patients electrolysis would be necessary to eliminate beard. They would also practice speaking in a higher pitch and moving in a more "feminine" manner. Then they would be required to live fulltime in the gender they were changing to: adopt female name, wear women's clothing, etc. Only after a year or more of this would they be accepted for surgery. Interestingly, the head surgeon in the Stanford program was a Roman Catholic who didn't really believe in the process. However he worked with the other physicians in the program, feeling it was wrong to impose his religion on a medical decision. However he donated his fee to a program that provided free cleft palate surgery to children in underdeveloped nations. Since this was a research program at a teaching hospital no one was in it for the money. Obviously things have changed. BTW I know about this because my ex-husband (getting a divorce, if married was another requirement, probably advised by legal team to keep wives from filing lawsuits for loss of consortium) was a patient. She has been very happy with the results--no regrets reported. OTH one of our friends in the trans community died under circumstances that were ruled accidental but looked a lot like suicide of the "do something stupid and maybe I'll die and maybe I won't" type. So even with the screening not every result was good.

The US medical profession has undergone many changes toward a profit model. Doctors (and lawyers) were once forbidden to advertise their services, other than a office sign and a phone book listing--Dr. Henderson, Thoracic surgeon. Now we have radio ads for doctors who will prescribe the 'little blue pill' over the telephone or computer, not to mention the prescription medication ads. And many of the new drugs seem to be for diseases no one every heard of a few years ago. If advertising is a form of magic--convincing people that they need powerful drugs for every twinge is certainly malevolent magic IMO.

Rita

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I’m not quite getting why the current huge population would necessarily interfere with the natural afterlife processes. It acts as a kind of gravity well that pulls partially processed souls downward into materiality?

I can imagine this is a first in the history of earth and its attendant non-material environs.

Thanks.

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Because there are only so many human souls. As the number of bodies that need to receive souls goes up, the supply does not increase to match the demand!

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I've been revisiting the Law of One material recently and fwiw there's a teeny bit of discussion on this stuff, including some commentary on this being more common in cities: https://www.lawofone.info/c/Miscellanea?su=Homosexuality

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I’m the same poster from last week who asked about the exercises in this book.

So over the week I’ve consciously tried to silence my mind while concentrating on the second hand.

I feel that I can’t silence it completely for longer than 20 seconds or so while staring at the second hand.

What I experience is kind of like passing thoughts murmuring, just like sounds outside of birds, passing vehicles, but my concentration on the second hand itself is constant.

The exercise with the mental sound illustrates this too: I turn up the volume on my “OM”, there are whispers in my mind that come up, but I’m only paying attention to the OM just as if I’m having a conversation in a room with many people, there are sounds all around but I’m only paying attention to the conversation at hand.

Is my current degree of concentration sufficient to continue on, given that I’ve exceeded 5 minutes on each exercise?

I don’t doubt that concentration to the degree that all other thoughts are blocked out is possible, but I’m not sure that this is the required degree of concentration if for example one adds the head-moving component to the exercise too. At a minimum, one would have the intention to move one’s head, which is also a thought.

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Yes, at this point you can proceed. Good work, btw.

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JMG and commentors, for the Cell Salts, what is the best way to find the period when the moon is in your sign?

I am not familiar with astrology. Would like to double check myself that I am doing this correctly. Have my birth date and hour, so know what combination of cell salts to take. Want to make sure I am taking them on the correct day. Any websites or other information is appreciated.

Thanks for the help and advice.

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Any almanac -- the Old Farmer's Almanac, for example -- will tell you where the Moon is; so will any astrological calendar, and you can also get the information from websites like this one.

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I've been going over last year's journal and one thing I noticed is that I tend the want to be either drunk or do something of high intensity like hiking when the moon is on my sign. Has anybody else experienced this? I was thinking that that might also be one reason why Carrey said to avoid alcohol.

JMG do you know why this could be? I don't know if this also happened before I started the protocol unfortunately but maybe the station of the moon gives me a boost that I need to channel better?

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The Moon governs instinct and biological tides, so that would make sense. You might take a look at your natal chart and see what aspects affect the Moon; that might also be involved. By all means see if you can put that energy to other uses, as getting drunk isn't a particularly helpful habit.

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Interesting thanks! My moon is in aspect with Mercury while retrograde in a conjunction but that doesn't say much to me. It is also in a sextile with Mars and opposed to both Neptune and Uranus.

It definitely isn't, fortunately it is not one that has taken a part on my daily life but usually on the first day when the Moon is in my sign I do find myself with a beer in hand or getting out.

On a related note once I read here ,I think, that famous people might get too much energy from their admirers --in several forms-- and sometimes that leads to substance abuse. What is it that gets channeled to them and why does it manifest that way?

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1) Moon opposed Neptune and Uranus would explain that.

2) They're on the receiving end of torrents of astral and etheric energies, which overload their auras. If they can't discharge the excess, it leads to overactive emotions (and thus to substance abuse in an attempt to numb the hyperactive emotional life) and to sexual excess (since that's a standard way to release etheric energy).

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1. I always feel awkward about posting without a salutation, so – Hi, John!
2. OK – I took a few weeks off Druidry to take a Reiki workshop. Not for me, tyvm. Since I missed Belteinne under the don’t-mix-magic rule, should I double back and observe the rite, or just head to the next holiday?
3. And I’m pretty sure I’m supposed to study Druidry because the Reiki instructor sent a red, a blue, and a green stone with my class certificate… which I discovered in the box in that order. Goal to send AODA application set for Saturday. And I’m very surprised by what’s fallen out of my head while writing the essay.
4. Are you familiar enough with either The Crane Bag by Robert Graves, or Pagan Rituals: The Crane Bag by Joanna van Hoven to recommend one or both? Or are there other titles on the subject you like?
5. The weather finally cut me a break. Rototilling started with a favorable Moon sign.
6. Why do I keep getting into conversations where the mostly imaginary Green Wizards’ Benevolent and Protective Association is discussed as if it were real? It’s gettin’ weird.
Many thanks.
Rhydlyd

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2) Just head for the next holiday. Belteinne's over.

4) I haven't read either one. Graves' The White Goddess is a fine gallimaufry of personal visionary experience and crackpot scholarship, on the other hand, and is not to be missed.

6) You should start sprouting tentacles shortly. ;-)

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Funny you mention tentacles – The GWB&PA venerates Alita the Battle Angel as their goddess of war and medicine…

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I've read Van der Hoeven's "Crane Bag." I'd assumed it would be a guide to, well, making and outfitting a crane bag. What it actually is, is a brief overview of Druid ritual and ritual tools for beginners. The author trained with OBOD and is a founder of The Druid College. Since I've been practicing AODA-style for a few years now, the book was fairly useless to me, but as always, YMMV.

--Sister Crow

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Many thanks, Sister Crow!
R

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Hi JMG,

One thread of questions that threaded its way through the Magic Mondays for a while was around working off the karma of others. I don't remember the exact wording - it was slightly different every time - but it sounded to me as taking more karmic load onto oneself than what's due so that to ease the burden for everyone.

On one level it sounds good and a part of me admires people who do that. Another part of me thinks that this might be the vice opposite but equivalent to gaining money and wealth that one hasn't earned. If our physical life on Earth can be seen as a learning experience, wouldn't working off someone else's karma do that person or group of people a disservice?

Isn't there some raspberry jam to be stuck to the fingers this way?

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You can't really take on anyone else's karma; deities can do that, humans can't. (Old-fashioned ccult authors like to say that when Jesus said "your sins are forgiven you," what he was doing was literally taking the person's karma on himself.) What you can do is take on a larger than usual share of the collective karma that our species has piled up, thus clearing the air for everyone. As far as I know, there's no problem with that -- well, except that the person who does this can expect to have dumpsters of misery unloaded on them.

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Does that imply that Jesus became a deity while incarnate or is it just a way of speaking?

I thought of this while contemplating the life of Jesus recently and what you've said of mystics. It seems to me that somehow he willingly went for crucifixion, he seems to have known before it happened, and thus by submitting himself to something horrible he took in a bunch of collective karma and forgive a large amount of sin.

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Depends on which version of occult Christian theology you favor! Dion Fortune and George Winslow Plummer, the two Christian occultists I've studied most closely, both held that Jesus was distinct from, but functioned as a vehicle for, the Christ, a divine principle which descended on him at the baptism in the Jordan and departed from him when he "gave up the ghost" during the Crucifixion. I think pretty much everyone in that scene agrees that he knew that crucifixion was on the schedule, and accepted it willingly.

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Dear JMG,

A few weeks back, I asked a question on here about psychedelics and their effects on the subtle bodies. I was wondering how this would apply to other intoxicants, such as alchohol, or cannabis? What would be your advice in partaking of such things in a safe and healthy manner?

Also, you mentioned that hypnosis does not go too well with Golden Dawn magic. Would I be advised to stop using guided hypnosis audios when I undertake the CGD?

Thanks!

Luke

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1) Use 'em in moderation and never do practices while you're still feeling the effects.

2) I'd recommend dropping them, yes.

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Thanks! - Luke

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Here's a little more Law of One that seemed relevant, talking about LSD including some mention of non-physical effects. I revisit this material like every 5 years or so and keep seeing more in it as I've learned more occultism and other stuff:

https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=LSD

Dion Fortune said this in Applied Magic:

The part played by drug addiction in the seamy side of occultism has been greatly over-rated. The drugs used are of the vision-producing type, such as anhalonium and hashish, and these are not drugs of addiction in the West. In the quantities in which they are used for occult experiments they are unlikely to do permanent harm.

The drugs to which people become addicts are those which either produce exhilaration and immunity to fatigue, or those which deaden consciousness and make a troubled life more bearable; under neither of these headings are to be found any of the vision-producing drugs. No one is likely to induce vision by their use sufficiently frequently to run any risk of addiction; and in any case, anhalonium is not habit-forming.

The risk to which these drugs expose those who use them is psychic, not physical; they may, if the experimenter is not an expert occultist, thoroughly competent in sealings and banishings, lay their user open to psychic invasion, and even obsession, because they open the doors of the astral to the unprepared consciousness, and as every swimmer knows, it is one thing to swim out, and another to swim back. I am not prepared to deny that they have a place in occult research, but such research should only be undertaken by those who are properly equipped, both as to their occult and their scientific attainments, and is in every way undesirable when done by those who are merely seeking a new thrill.

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I found that passage interesting when I first came across it because cannabis doesn't always have a reputation for being vision-producing. I have had visions while under the influence, but only when I've been using it on occasion/after a long hiatus and also while I've been keeping up a regular meditation practice. And who knows how true those revelations were... When I've done qi gong while under the influence and with my eyes closed, I can *really* feel and sometimes see the energy moving around. It's probably healthier not to mix the two, but I also feel the movement much less explicitly in this case.

It doesn't have this effect for me if I use it more regularly. To the contrary, I will stop dreaming. I might have a vague recollection of JMG or someone else saying it can make your aura more opaque? I've felt more shut off from people with regular use.

Please read my comments as another vote for moderation, if at all! And note that I don't do any ritual magic, so again I defer to JMG here.

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It is worth remembering that despite some biologists protests to the contrary, different types of alcohol have some very different effects. Mead, rum, and wine for instance, are all used in certain rituals and are, too my mind, most emphatically NOT interchangeable.

I don't have any firsthand experience with cannabis, but I do know that some Sufi groups use it. Interestingly, they regard prior secular use as a disqualifier for using it for spiritual purposes. There is a sizeable body of alchemical lore in Persian and Arabic centered around ingesting and transforming a wide variety of substances.

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Dear gracious host, may I ask a few practical questions about learning natural magic and the planets:

1) I recently thought that Dr. Bach’s 38 Flower Remedies were excellent tool for learning to judge your own magical will and intention (besides their primary effects on the psyche) - because they work so quickly. Like when I take Cherry plum to calm my anger and the next day I can’t seem to get out of bed, which never happens on other days. Does this sound like a good plan to practice this kind of judgement?

2) I’m starting to learn natural magic with your beautiful encyclopedia. You list amethyst as helpful to find lasting love and to avoid intoxication. Am I right in thinking that an amulet containing amethyst could help in finding and leading a „sober“ relationship (as I have experience with co-addiction; have done journaling and other work on that).

3) Should such an amulet contain colors and plants of Venus (love) or Jupiter (like amethyst)?

4)Am I right that „finding one’s tribe“ would be a matter of the Moon, rather than another planet? (As a German speaker I wondered why the word „like“ expresses resemblance/kinship, but also sympathy in English - both can be correspondences of the Moon, if I understand right)

Thank you, your advice is much appreciated!

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1) That's an interesting approach! Yes, if that works for you, by all means.

2) Yes, very much so.

3) If the primary goal of the amulet is to bring love, it should primarily have Venus correspondences, but you can mix in a little Jupiter -- those two planets relate well together.

4) Yes, but be careful with "finding your tribe," as it might lead you to people who share the same problems you have!

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4) You are right, of course. I should have specified that without children or siblings of my own, I feel the need to be part of a family - there is some things friends don't account for just as much. This is the Moon's domain, I guess?

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In that case I'd say Venus rather than the Moon, since Venus rules love of all kinds, not just romantic love.

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Even love and care for younger people, as if they were your children?

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The phrase "love of all kinds" does imply that, yes.

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If I am already halfway through a course of magical study and practice, is it advisable to be also taking on the book club about the Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic?

I'm at the stage in the DMH where I'm scrying the Ogham fews in preparation for pathworking, and I get the sense that studying Levi is going to be illuminating, in the sense that the different symbolism will cast light on what I'm learning in the DMH. Especially since Lévi is referenced there.

I don't plan on giving up the DMH, just adding the book club study alongside it.

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You should be fine doing the two together. We're not going to be getting deeply into Lévi's practical methods.

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Where might one go to get details on Lévi's actual methods?

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He gives some of his methods in the book we're about to study.

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Would you recommend trying to take him up as a proper magical system?

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No. As I noted in my post, he was at the beginning of the modern magical revival, and his methods are tentative movements in the direction of a fully functional magical system.

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More SoP:

1. In the closing of the SoP it's clear the down and up beams of light meet in the sphere in the solar plexus. It's not clear how they meet in the opening. I've been avoiding focusing on that part of the visualisation. The one time I imagined them meeting at the sphere in the head, it felt like it short-circuited and the energy dispersed.

2. Thinking about the difference between Earth and Spirit Below, it seems like Earth is the biosphere and shallow lithosphere, and once it gets molten it's Spirit Below.

3. I'd been imagining the Fire landscape as a midday summer in a lush park and it wasn't particularly effective. Then I moved it to moorland, which is a notoriously flammable environment. The effect was much stronger and I could even hear the crackling of fire around me.

4. Do you ever enhance the imagery to make it stronger? For example imagining yourself in a whirlwhind or under a waterfall?

5. One sign of a good connection with each element I noticed is feeling what's under my feet. Grass or soil for Air, sand for Fire, smooth pebbles for Water, and snow for Earth.

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1) Depends on which version of the opening you're using -- there are several. The solar plexus generally is a good place to bring the energies together.

2) That's certainly a workable symbolism.

3) Nice! I use imagery from the American Southwest -- red rock buttes, creosote bush, the sort of desert pines that go up like torches the moment a spark hits them, and the sun's heat crashing down with physical force -- but then I've been there. If moorland is what works for you, exccellent.

4) All the time. I don't do whirlwinds, but when I invoke air I feel the wind in my hair, and salt spray from the ocean flings itself against me when I invoke water.

5) Good. Yes, that sort of detail works very well.

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1. I'm using this version - https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/57125.html. It says the upcoming beam fills the body with light without being specific how. Would the effect be much different if they met at the point below the navel - where you had your hands to say "By the earth beneath me" and send the beam of light downwards?

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The way I do it is I send a narrow and intense shaft of light all the way down to the center of the earth, while the light that comes back up is a broader beam that literally fills my entire body. It doesn't blend with the descending shaft -- they remain distinct.

But by all means experiment -- this is a flexible ritual and can be worked in a variety of ways.

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booklover1973

Hello JMG,

do you know of a good version of the Book of Lambsprinck? I didn't find much in the way of books or on the Internet.

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I've always used the one in the Hermetic Museum, either the English or the Latin edition.

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booklover1973

Thanks!

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JMG,

Thanks as always for hosting this forum. As a Christian, I'm thinking of digging into Gareth Knight's material. At the moment though, I'm also in the Ovate grade of the OBOD course. I know you warn often against mixing systems... would this be a problematic mix, do you think?

Thanks again,
Ryan M.

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I'd encourage you to finish the OBOD material before you take up Knight. One system of practice at a time!

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Much appreciated! Thank you!

Ryan M.

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I'm not sure what to make of this, except that I won't buy this book:
https://imgur.com/a/ZLRvGdu
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094ZQ1GW5
It's sad to see Vallée falling down like this. Keep your Passport to Magonia copy close to hand.

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Yeah, that's really sad. On the other hand, he may have been paid by the Air Force to shovel smoke.

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Can one accidentally cast a hex by will and ill feeling alone, sans ritual? I'm pretty sure TSW and I wish it didn't.

My wife seems to have a bad habit of this. She'll wish ill on someone or some group in and tolerably enough those ill-wishes come true. She's never happy about it afterwards, because I suppose the rasberry-jam principle applies.

If you want an example, the best one is what she (accidentally) did to me: back when we were dating I went away to school, and she declared privately with venom 'I hope he gets sick' so I'd have to drop out and return home. Well, I dropped out, returned home, and went to the local cow college with her, just like she asked for. My health never recovered and she has to deal with a sickly husband, which she didn't want. That's not the worst curse, either. If her willpower can do good, it's not as clear when that has happened. (Probably because it's easier to sharpen the will with anger, at least in the short term.)

Aside from the obvious "tell her not to curse people," do you have any advice? She doesn't believe in magic, so that doesn't work. I worry for the karmic blowback she might build up. She's not generally a negative person; she just gets upset sometimes and lashes out in a way that she doesn't think will hurt.

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Yes, this is a real thing. Your wife is what used to be called a witch: a person who vents negative energy at other people in a way that hurts them. Can you point out to her that very often, when she ill-wishes someone, nasty things happen and she feels bad about it?

There are ways to stop this, but almost all of them direct the negative energy back at the person who sends it, and the consequences of that can be pretty grim.

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Not the OP - if one recognizes such behavior oneself, what can be done about it?

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Stop doing it. It's not an unconscious action; the habit of focusing intently on ill-wishing can be broken, if you choose to break it.

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I have a friend who doesn't believe in any of this stuff. But she is pretty psychic in terms of noting weird energies in places and so forth. It is probably a "complete coincidence" that her ex-husband became so ill at his second wedding that he beshat himself. I kid her that the reason she doesn't want to study Wicca is that then she would bound by the rules.

Rita

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I'd be interested in JMG's thoughts on this. I know this sort of strategy works on my own negative thoughts, but it might be different if hexes are involved.

This seems like a manifestation of a kneejerk negative thought of anger. If you get cut off while driving, you may have a flash of rage towards the offending driver. Your wife seems to take that energy and put it into a specific thought. It's sort of like a coping mechanism to that initial flash of rage.

I personally have more self directed negative thoughts, and can benefit from engaging with the thoughts. I'll have an unending feeling of "I hate myself," but once I ask "why do I hate myself?" I'll either come up with nothing or some stupid thing I did earlier in the day, and realize that cycling through these thoughts isn't going to help in either case.

I see two things happening: the feeling is acknowledged, and the reaction I'm having to the feeling is shown for what it really is.

Something similar might work with your wife: engage with the feeling, actually talk through the horrible things she wants to happen to this other person as a form of catharsis, and then once that point has been reached, revisit what's actually happening emotionally.

I wonder however: will this actually affect the hex? Is the hex still in effect even if after some reflection you've calmed down?

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kimberlysteele

Late to the party as always but I wrote an essay about this topic called The Power of "I Don't Do That Anymore". Hope it helps someone.

https://kimberlysteele.dreamwidth.org/12184.html

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Thank you for sharing! This has added a few topics to meditate on for me.

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Just wanted to share this. As I started High Magics first paragraphs and started contemplating, them I wondered: "Is it only I alone who have created this experience, or is it objective reality? Does the Master have the same feelings as I or would mine amuse him? Are my thoughts new, unique, my own, or have the Master and many before him experienced and thought exactly the same?"...This is actually a quote from the glass bead game, but the funny synchronicity to this is these were my thoughts the day before I read that passage. I do feel like since I started reading Levi, things have been opening up.

Now an unrelated question. Looking to start practicing the hexagram rituals this week. Is it ideal to do the lesser and greater hexagram together or does it matter if they are mixed with lesser or great pentagram(lbrp then girh and vice versa)?

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1) Good!

2) Start by practicing the Lesser version -- invoking and banishing. Then work up to a ritual sequence, in which you banish with the Lesser to clear the space, use the Greater to invoke and then banish a planet, and then clear the space again with the Lesser. (The invoking form of the Lesser is almost never used in practice, just in training.)

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Hi there JMG and community!

A while ago I stumbled upon the teachings of Barry Long through a book about child raising (I work in a kindergarten in Germany).

He seems to talk about the same stuff I read in between the lines on your blogs and those of the community.

It just resonates a lot more with me, because most magic teachings are to "dressed up" for me ( like druids in robes and hats, sorry :) )

But I trust this community and you with their experiences and would like to know if anyone knows about Barry Long and if he is "safe" to inquire further.

Thanks to all

- Alex

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I'm not familiar with him or his work at all.

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