Magic Monday
Jun. 28th, 2020 11:22 pm It's getting on for midnight as I write this, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Let's start things out with a quote again:
That's from Eliphas Lévi's The Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic, in case you were wondering -- and yes, Lévi used the word "android." (The word comes from Greek, androeides, "image of a man;" the feminine equivalent is gynoeides, and thus "gynoid" would be the word in English for a female robot. You're welcome.)
Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. Any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here.
"Thus disposed, the Tarot is a true oracle and responds to all questions with more clarity and infallibility than the android of Albertus Magnus, to such an extent that a prisoner without any books could, in a few years, if he had only a Tarot deck and knew how to use it, acquire universal science, and would speak of everything with a doctrine without equal and with an inexhaustible eloquence. This wheel is the true key to the notory art and the Great Art of Raymond Lully; it is the true secret of the transmutation of darkness into light, it is the first and most important of all the arcana of the Great Work."
That's from Eliphas Lévi's The Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic, in case you were wondering -- and yes, Lévi used the word "android." (The word comes from Greek, androeides, "image of a man;" the feminine equivalent is gynoeides, and thus "gynoid" would be the word in English for a female robot. You're welcome.)
Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. Any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here.
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With that said, have at it!
***This Magic Monday is now closed -- and yes, this means you. See you next week!***
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***This Magic Monday is now closed -- and yes, this means you. See you next week!***
And don't forget to look up your Pangalactic New Age Soul Signature at CosmicOom.com!
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Date: 2020-06-29 03:50 am (UTC)I'm planning to start LRM on Wednesday, and lack any spiritual background, so I'm aware there's probably not too much I can do, but any advice on how to protect myself for the next week will be greatly appreciated.
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:00 am (UTC)"Blessed be Thou, Adonai, enlighten me through Thy initiation."
(Adonai, אדני in Hebrew, means "Lord" and is the divine name associated with the material plane. It's the first of the divine names you'll study in the course.)
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:03 am (UTC)I found myself wondering the same thing the first time I looked at my chart! I double-checked with my parents, and they were both certain of the birth time- however, if I use a birth time 15 minutes earlier than my birth certificate says, it would give me a Pisces rising. On the other hand, my sun (in cancer) is square Jupiter and Saturn, and square my ascendant (and this opposed to my M.C.- Also opposed to Mercury, and sextile the moon, for what it’s worth). Would you say these are enough hard aspects to constitute a “really messed up sun”? (I’m still just getting my feet wet, and not very confident interpreting this sort of thing yet) And if not, in my situation do you think you’d stick with the chart as my birth certificate would have it, or would you amend the time back 15 minutes to get an ascendant that feels like a better fit?
Apologies for continuing to ask natal astrology questions which I know aren’t your area of expertise, and as always, many thanks!
-NPM
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From:The Left and Demonic Possession
Date: 2020-06-29 04:11 am (UTC)On Ecosophia.net, I believe it was Anon who asked if you thought the Left was possessed by demons. I think they are possessed by demons and I am going to be posting about why I think so on my Dreamwidth journal this Wednesday. If the post I'm writing gets too long, I'll have to make it a series.
I hope you are well. Thanks for your enlightening, life-changing work.
For all interested in my arrangements of the Orphic Hymns, I just released the studio recording of Helios: https://queeniemusic.bandcamp.com/track/orphic-hymn-to-the-sun
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:12 am (UTC)1. I've been meditating in the concept of the will lately, and I'm extremely intrigued by the concept that willing a single thing strongly for an extended period of time encourages that thing to manifest in our lives. If this is remotely true, it would seem to be one of the most important lessons we could possibly learn. In particular, what I find fascinating is the idea that internal struggle is a symptom of divided will, and that if the will is properly directed, there is no sense of resistance at all - this seems to turn a lot of pop psychology and contemporary self-improvement on their heads, since they're all about fighting yourself to "build willpower." However, what I don't understand is how the will is different from simply desiring or wanting something and working towards achieving it. How can we move from a want or desire for something to a will that can get the job done without internal resistance or self-sabotage? Subjectively, does the will feel differently from a desire or want?
2. Are you familiar with Peter Turchin and his academic work to develop mathematical models of history? Back in 2010, he successfully predicted a wave of instability in the US in the decade 2010-2020 (it seems pretty obvious now for those who have been paying attention, but hindsight is 20/20). Are you sympathetic to such ideas in general? Can history be modeled like an epidemic?
3. In the Qabalah, what is the difference between the forms and patterns of Hod and the images of Yesod? I'm guessing that since Yesod proceeds from Hod in the traditional order of emanations, its images are shaped by the patterns of Hod, but how do we know in practice if we're operating in the sphere of Hod or Yesod?
4. Is any distinction made in occult philosophy between feeling and emotion? Jung called feeling a judging function, and I get the impression that an emotion is something more physiological and automatic. Would you agree with this? Which Sephiroth correspond to feeling and emotion, respectively?
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:47 am (UTC)2) I'm somewhat familiar with Turchin, and I have to say I have more respect for his models than I did before! History can certainly be modeled, though I tend to use narrative rather than numerical models; Oswald Spengler is a writer on historical cycles who's influenced me strongly.
3) An image isn't just a pattern. It's a pattern that expresses itself in mental equivalents of the physical senses -- think of seeing something "in the mind's eye," and so on. Those belong to Yesod. The patterns of Hod are not expressed in images; they're like the field of a magnet, which you can't see until you sprinkle iron filings onto the paper and they fall into lines that trac the patterns.
4) Words like those are tricky! The term "feeling" can refer to anything from intuitive flickers of the spiritual level to hardwired biological passions -- and so can the term "emotion," depending on who's using them. As a rule, the biological passions belong to Yesod, the location of the automatic consciousness, while what you're calling "feeling" belongs to Netzach.
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:13 am (UTC)I am perfectly willing to come up with my own original devotions. But I would greatly appreciate any help with at least getting started well and not making some basic error right out of the gate. If anyone is going to suggest the Orphic hymns, I got the sense that She thinks they're OK, but is a little bored with just getting that.
As ever JMG, thank you so much for this forum and all the work you put into it. Your sites are the coolest place in cyberspace.
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:54 am (UTC)As for what to say, if you go to the DuckDuckGo search engine and type in the search string "prayers to Athena," you'll get quite a few hits. Athena's a popular goddess these days, just as she was in ancient times, and as you'd expect, she gives her votaries the ability to think clearly and write good prayers.
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:56 am (UTC)Taken literally it seems impossible, but would you read this as an omen that Trump will win in a serious landslide?
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Date: 2020-06-29 05:21 am (UTC)To follow up on the "What if I was a spy in a recent past life?" theme that has popped up over the past couple MMs or so, I must curiously inquire:
(I was one of those who reported experiences that might point to living a past life drenched in espionage)
1. (a) Out of all the pantheons you are familiar with, which gods and/or goddesses preside over the realm of spycraft/espionage? (b) Would this be the same deity/force that presides over the principles which make secret societies and clandestine organizations/lodges function properly?
2. I live with a TDS case and lifelong leftist true believer. Suddenly I had a rather uncharacteristic rage (I'm not a particularly aggressive or hot-headed person) suddenly boil up in me today and it exploded out very briefly as I basically exclaimed, "the leftist insanity needs to cease and desist right now, a a civil war would not end well for them!"...among other things related to the current insane climate. The mood quickly subsided and later I observed to myself that it felt like I had some sort of "war energy" pass through me. I know things in general or going super-crazy right now on the astral level, but is there anything in the astrological weather as of late that would accentuate such moods or bring on sudden foreign-feeling energies into me? Could this simply be due to the lingering effects of the lunar eclipse? Granted I had performed SOP just a couple hours prior to this outburst, which might explain why this mood passed out of me so quickly and why I was able to analyze it in such a detached manner not long after.
3. I think someone on a previous MM mentioned that Athena/Minerva has a distaste for Druids (or Druidry). Does this mean she shouldn't be invoked during the SOP? Or does this mean that she shouldn't be invoked while doing an assortment of Druid magic practices?
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Date: 2020-06-29 06:06 am (UTC)2) I don't know of any general astrological factor that might cause that, but the Moon may have been in aspect to your natal Mars or something of that sort. Still, there are other things flowing through collective consciousness that are harder to track via astrology.
3) I've talked to fellow Druids about that and they ended up scratching their heads. They've had no problem working with Athena or Minerva. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Date: 2020-06-29 05:22 am (UTC)Thank you again.
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Date: 2020-06-29 06:06 am (UTC)Weather Effects
Date: 2020-06-29 06:28 am (UTC)Thank you for your knowledge and insight.
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Date: 2020-06-29 06:36 am (UTC)The part I am confused is if you step forward to do the pentagram you can’t trace the circumference because you are not at the center of the circle but if you do step back you can’t trace the circumference from the center of the pentagram to the other quarter because now the pentagram would be one step away from you which takes me to think that there is no stepping forward at all.
That is how I would picture it but I ask because on the sixth step you say to trace a line back to the east and then step back.
Or... is it more like: Say point O is the starting position, you step forward and you walk around the perimeter of a small circumference whose center is O with your feet, instead of pivoting, while tracing a bigger circumference with your hand and then stepping back to O? That would make sense.
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Date: 2020-06-29 06:41 pm (UTC)Space limitations for the circle?
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Date: 2020-06-29 07:07 am (UTC)However, having read Regardie's 'Art of True Healing', he seems to imply that Middle Pillar visualisations can directly affect the physical health of the body. Do you believe he is mistaken or is there something subtle that I am missing here?
I am particularly curious because having practised the MP for several months now, I have often experienced a very visceral sensation of vital energy circulating through my body in the immediate aftermath. If I had to guess I would say this is etheric activity. How is this possible if the planes are discrete and non-continous?
How also would there be a mechanism for a healing modality like Acupuncture which, unless I'm mistaken, works primarily with with the etheric body, and yet is often reported to directly (i.e. without any further action apparently having occurred on the physical plane) affect physical health?
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Date: 2020-06-29 07:48 am (UTC)Above: Helios
Below' Selene
East: Hermes
South: Aries
West: Aphrodite
North: Chronos
..praying to Zeus a little bit before the beginning and after the end.
Any thoughts?
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Date: 2020-06-29 08:14 pm (UTC)The second is the "I am a puppet and the stars are the strings" reaction, the idea that if something's in your horoscope or an upcoming transit or whatever, you can do nothing about it. That's not true at all; there's a lot of wiggle room.
Finally, you get the opposite mistake from these two, which is the "The stars do what I tell them" attitude. You've got wiggle room, but it's not infinite; if you've got an afflicted Venus, you're going to have some relationship trouble to deal with, even if you can finally work through it and get your love life on an even keel. The horoscope establishes limits and basic directions, and those aren't necessarily flexible, even if you can shape the way they work out in your life.
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Date: 2020-06-29 04:19 pm (UTC)Litany of the Saints; Memorare; Our Father; any Psalm where the psalmist is asking for help. Also make a good confession and receive Holy Communion as often as you can—and while you’re in the booth, mention spiritual difficulty and if the priest is not totally corrupted, he should be able to offer suggestions. Do NOT mention demons or Satan—that’ll cause any modern priest to recommend a psychiatrist. (They’re required to do that before they go any further with a complaint about demons.). Just say you are deeply struggling internally with the faith. Also, when the phenomena start bothering you, don’t forget the simple tactic of repeating the name of Jesus over and over. Good luck!
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Date: 2020-06-29 08:25 pm (UTC)Is it just me?
Date: 2020-06-29 09:07 am (UTC)PREAMBLE
If one were to consider that humans are consciousness experiencing a reality through a physical bio-electric body and that we live on a planetary body that has an 'electric' nature (e.g. we are the electric fleas on the electrical planetary dog); then in times of planetary changes/instability, since we exist within and as part of this system, not above or beyond, the idea of 'humans as the pinnacle[TM]' seems likely to be tested.
Things I have been chewing on:
1. The instability of planetary systems manifesting through human behaviour
2. Might the energies/deities/etc that humans connect to, reflect/be affected by such instability
3. In times of shifting patterns and relationships, the use of additional strategies to maintain a dynamic equilibrium
Of course some strategies are best kept internal and different systems have their approaches and methods that may not be compatible, so not necessarily a simple thing, but I digress.
Saw a cartoon that said:
"My desire to keep up to date and informed is at odds with my desire to stay sane."
I have been choosing to limit the amount of attention given to some things because the news/general media and tech interfaces seem increasingly discordant and like they are reflecting/sucking into a great madness - that avoidance and internal work usually works well (e.g. no television since 1992) but the need for other measures to support seems to have been increasing of late.
i.e. it seems important just now to 'do stuff' in order to keep energetic equilibrium - so I am going with that.
For example - a core part of my practice is noticing emotional states and then choosing whether I am going to go with or change a state to some other (based on 5 elemental processes) - a practice I have been doing for nearly 40 years - recently, some of the potential emotional stuff has been more intense than usual but without an obvious source.
It isn't just that there is more noise than signal
It is difficult to put into words, but things seems to be 'shifting'.
It could be just time to alter practice/path, or it could be something gastrointestinal and I just need to stay-off the beans, or, a third alternative is that things are actually getting weirder as the world oscillates between extremes while a new equilibrium is waiting to appear. Humans as part of this 'electrical/energetic field' are not immune - A good time to be alive but not necessarily comfortable or pleasant.
Of course even if correct, there is no reason why that new equilibrium should show up in the short term and this roller-coaster might still be on the climb before actually beginning its run.
A QUESTION
Things ebb and flow for me in terms of intensity of practice - might I ask, have you or people you know experienced the need to adapt or change long-term practices in recent times (by recent I guess say last 12+ months) to maintain efficacy?
Various thoughts and ideas have popped-up, but any different thoughts/perspectives/ideas on how people are finding/navigating the world at the moment would be much appreciated.
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Date: 2020-06-29 10:32 am (UTC)I have a question relating to old friendships that turn towards sour interpersonal relations. Without going into details, trump derangement syndrome has led to a deterioration of civility, increased hostility and aggression, and now outright projection and anger in a circle of friends I was part of. I decided to move away and wanted advice as to how I can insulate myself, and indeed protect myself from recrimination manifesting in my life loving forward. I practice SoP daily but have no other real experience or practice in these matters.
For what it's worth, I'd prefer to remember them as friends and wish them no ill will - just to let them be and have the same courtesy returned.
Thank you,
Anonymously
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Date: 2020-06-29 08:31 pm (UTC)Blessing mixup continued
Date: 2020-06-29 10:35 am (UTC)to continue this: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/92498.html?thread=9443666#cmt9443666
from last week.
Re 3) She is concerned that the backlash would be detrimental to her ability to care for her child (2 years old) and so wishes to hold off on seriously fighting it off for a number of years.
Re 5) yes I did rub the oil on the candle and light it during the time of the eclipse, it coincided with the third hour of the sun locally. should I throw it out and start again, re anoint it or just carry on doing the blessings on Sunday's?
Thank you
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Date: 2020-06-29 08:32 pm (UTC)5) Just carry on.
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Date: 2020-06-29 10:46 am (UTC)Already this week, and on several earlier occasions, people have been talking about the madness afflicting what they describe as « the Left . » As an old Leftist myself, I wanted to comment on this because I think what is going on may be explicable, symbolically or actually, in magical terms, albeit not those normally used here.
Briefly (because this is not a political essay) what people call the « Left » today, has nothing to do with the collectivist, universalist, progressive mass movements of the last two hundred years, linked to trades unions, and civil society and community organisations. Most of the mass political parties established during this time still exist today, but in name only. Few if any of their current leaders claim to be of « the Left », or to use the traditional vocabulary of class-based struggle.
After the 1980s, shaken by the electoral success of Reagan and Thatcher, a new generation of party leaders abandoned any hope of recapturing power, and decided to reconfigure their parties for elite groups, accepting neoliberal economic polices as inevitable, and basing their ideology, inasmuch as they had one, on extreme social liberalism. Actual leftists were persecuted and driven out, as often before in history: liberals have always been the worst enemies of the Left. This produced parties with extreme neoliberal economic and social ideologies, developed for, and run by, the comfortably off with vaguely liberal inclinations. But of course these parties wanted to get elected, and so had to find a way of appealing to ordinary people. At first they retained some trappings of the Left, but progressively just kept the names. They effectively took the votes of ordinary people for granted, with implied slogans like, You Have no Choice, If You Think We Are Bad Look at the Opposition, and more recently, Vote for Us It’s Your Duty.
This worked for a while, but was bound to fall apart one day, as ordinary people began to awake from the magical trance into which they had been cast. Now, ordinary people have started to vote in large numbers for parties of the radical Right (and to some extent Left), Greens, and ethnic and local parties - or just not vote at all. Panic has set in, and this political blob is melting down, and starting to eat itself.
The above analysis is fairly standard on the genuine Left. My point here is that, whilst, it’s possible to use the vocabulary of commerce to explain what’s happened (think, a Private Equity buyout of a company) it’s also possible to use a magical one. After all, a group have taken over (many would say) the very soul of traditional Leftist parties, to the point that they now « possess » them. They use the glamour of advertising and PR to deceive and conceal who they really are, and they have done so in bad faith lying incessantly to themselves and each other. But because at the end of the day this was all about power and money, rather than any kind of coherent ideology, with the threat of genuinely using power they are starting to come apart and turning on each other. I’m sure there are plenty of magical and mythological precedents.
This seems to me a reasonable explanation, but I’d be interested to know what you think.
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