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The Cosmic ShapeIt's getting on for midnight as I type this, so here we go with a new Magic Monday. This week's classic of Western occultism, since I've been indulging in Ross Nichols' poetry of late, is The Cosmic Shape, published in 1946, which contains his brilliant essay "An Examination of Creative Myth," which discusses the need for nature-myth and ritual as a counterbalance to the artificialities of modern life, and his related Arthurisn poem-cycle "The Cosmic Legend," as well as other poems of his and his fellow poet James Kirkup. He clearly discussed these ideas with his good friend Gerald Gardner; those ideas ended up playing a central role in the creation of Wicca as well as the transformations of 20th-century Druidry. Here's a bit from "The Cosmic Legend": 

I have made my ceremonies; the crisis
comes. None may reproduce, no water flow,
until the sword is from its sheath pulled.
Only I, the medicine-man Gawain, instructing 
at midnight Galahad, the pure one of 
spring -- only I can save you, faithless 
with the fallen leaf. I prove to you,
O my dead people, once again that
I alone am your strength.

In the first ray beating touching on the centre altar-stone
to the eye prepared at vigil-end, the vessel of the sun,
cup and heart, to Galahad. 

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Date: 2020-06-08 04:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ecosophian
First of all, happy birthday, John!

I would like to ask a question about the three paths in the Western tradition — the mystic, the mage, and the occultist. So you say "the mystic eventually becomes one with the object of his or her love...the mage eventually becomes one with the power that sustains and transforms the cosmos...and the occultist eventually becomes one with “the mind and eyes of God.”

1. While all of this is infinitely far from where I currently am, I'd like to ask if this "becoming one" means destruction of an individual. Will there be somebody to still say "I am one with this" or not? For the reason I find the prospect unnerving.

2. Also I think I understand how mystic path works. It works by two principles "what you contemplate you imitate" and induction of vibrations as described by Dion fortune. How the other two paths work is harder to grasp.

3. Also you said that getting cancer is a Mystic's occupational hazard. Is there anything mystics can do to reduce the risk? Also is it related to phrases like "he/she was too good for this world" and "God takes soonest those he loveth best"?

P.S. Minneapolis city decided to disband their police department completely. I recon the dark age future of warlords and raiding parties might be closer than I thought previously. The famous warbands of Minneapolis! :)





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Date: 2020-06-08 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(not OP)

3) Whats the life expectancy for mages?

3a) I feel I am sitting on the fence between mage and mystic as far as my practices are concerned. How can I make sure not to slip into being a mystic?

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Date: 2020-06-08 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry if this is a stupid question but what's the difference between devotional practices and mysticism? Is mysticism just a extreme form of devotional practice or is there more to it than that?

I suppose what I really want to know is when does a person cross that line into mysticism and how do they know when they have.

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Date: 2020-06-08 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's very clear to me that I am drawn to the occultist's path and not to either the mystic or the mage's path. For some reason the prospect of having power doesn't excite me at all. Wisdom, however, is another matter. I have wanted that since I was a small girl.

I'm wondering how much the rituals for the mage's path as I'm currently following in Druid Magic Handbook would be best left undone or set aside, to focus more on meditation, study and reading, and training the mind. I see the value of the mage's work even on the Occultist's path because of how it can transform me for that path. I would appreciate any thoughts you may have on what my focus should be.

Myriam

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Date: 2020-06-09 03:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can the grail working be helpful for an occultist?

Also, where would you put someone like Franklin Merrill Wolff in these 3? What about Ramana Maharshi?

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Date: 2020-06-09 12:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
PS) In this case, I wonder if there's more to it: policing is expensive, and funding it is mostly left to local jurisdictions. I can't help but wonder if part of what's happening is those local jurisdictions are bankrupt and need to cut services, and this "defund the police" movement provides them with cover....

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Date: 2020-06-09 02:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If we're at the point where maintaining law and order is becoming a luxury we're much further into the collapse than I thought....

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Date: 2020-06-08 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Could you link the post about mystics being more likely to catch cancer?
I can‘t find it with google.

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Date: 2020-06-08 11:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ecosophian
I can't find it either, but I distinctly remember JMG saying that at one point in not that distant past. I'm not imagining it!

The context was that a mystic has to contend with high energies he may not be ready for.
While a mage is building the strength of their subtle bodies gradually and if they do everything right they don't suffer bad consequences.

Today's Magic Monday has a continuation of this theme further down this comment section, but more from an angle of character traits.

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Date: 2020-06-09 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
ecosophian, would you mind pointing me to some of your sources about your explorations of the three paths? I am interested in knowing more about this.

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