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Magic FailIt's been a while since we've checked in on the efforts of the soi-disant "Magical Resistance" -- that is to say, the people who still haven't gotten over the fact that Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, and are expressing their rage and hatred by way of magical rituals rather than public tantrums of some other kind.  Partly, I'm glad to say, that's because they seem to have learned one of the basic lessons of magical practice, which is that being public about your workings is a great way to let other operative mages know how to mess with you. Since the spectacularly unsuccessful attempt to use magic to keep Brett Kavanaugh from being confirmed as a Supreme Court justice, the Magical Resistance has been much quieter about its intentions and ritual texts. I'm pleased to see this; any indication that the very low standard of magical competence in modern American society has risen a bit is worth celebrating. 

That said, the efforts of the Magical Resistance to hinder the Trump administration don't seem to have been favored with any greater level of success than before. The latest and most obvious example of this, of course, is the end of the Mueller investigation. For more than two years now, a great many of the people who hate Donald Trump have been insisting at the top of their lungs that Mueller would inevitably find some suitably gaudy collection of impeachable offenses in Trump's conduct in office. At least some of the people who were busy casting spells to bring Trump down, to judge from their comments on various online forums, loaded a great many of their hopes on Mueller -- and, to judge by the rituals they were using back when they were being public about it, an equally large share of their magical efforts. Those clearly didn't do much, and there's a useful lesson in operative magic to be drawn from their failure. 

The core of that failure comes from their choice of intention. Those of the Mueller-centric spells I encountered, back when such things were being made public, focused nearly all their rhetoric on the ideal of justice. That's a perfectly valid magical intention, but like most other perfectly valid magical intentions, it has a catch:  you really do need to be sure that justice is on your side. 

In a criminal investigation, justice includes such basic elements as fairness, impartiality, and a willingness to suspend judgment until all the facts have come to light. The goal of a just investigation is to punish those who are actually guilty of the charges made against them and to vindicate those who are innocent. If you say instead, "I hate the defendant, therefore he must be guilty of the accusations," that's unjust; if, more cynically, you say, "I hate the defendant, therefore I don't care what the facts say, I'm going to insist that he's guilty of the accusations," that's also unjust. The attitude of the Trump-haters toward the Mueller investigation was one of these two -- I'll let my readers make their own speculations as to which one -- and I can promise you that if you perform a magical working for justice motivated by one or the other of these deeply unjust attitudes, you are not going to like the results. 

And of course that's what happened. As far as I can tell, the outcome of the Mueller investigation was, technically speaking, a success for the Magical Resistance, in that justice did in fact happen. That is to say, an innocent man was cleared of false accusations made against him by his political enemies, and some of the people who helped to spread those accusations have suffered a great deal of public embarrassment. That's entirely just. If that wasn't what the Magical Resistance had in mind, why, that's what happens when you're insufficiently careful about the intentions you choose for your working. 

The moral to this story? Justice isn't whatever you want it to be, neither is magic -- and if you're not sufficiently careful with either one, you can very efficiently kick yourself in the backside. 

outcome of Mueller investigation

Date: 2019-03-29 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"That is to say, an innocent man was cleared of false accusations made against him by his political enemies"

Since not a single page of the Mueller report has been published, and not a single page as far as we know has been furnished to any member of Congress, it seems premature to make either general or specific conclusions about what the report contains.

As of last night, the only information available to the public was a four page letter about the report from the Attorney General, and a statement that the report is at least three hundred pages long.

When and if we have the opportunity to learn in detail, from the horse's mouth, what the report actually says, we will be in a better position to discuss whether the investigation is complete and whether it exonerates anyone of anything.

Re: outcome of Mueller investigation

Date: 2019-03-30 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I found this on brins blog

“Just a reminder of what pundits have been too stupid to point out... that the only thing the Mueller Report "cleared" Donald Trump of was direct collusion with Kremlin acts of war against the American Republic during 2016. The Trump Tower meetings and WikiLeaks and calling publicly for Russian hacking... they were bad, but always the weakest parts to prosecute.

That's it. Nothing else is exonerated.”

The dems might still have something to work with.

Re: outcome of Mueller investigation

Date: 2019-03-30 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
… and if the full report doesn't show Trump as a bought agent of Russia, will you shift the goal posts to "the report is heavily redacted?" And if redaction isn't evident, will it be "Photoshop editing?"

– Godozo

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Date: 2019-03-29 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Previous inadvertently anonymous comment about waiting until we can read the actual report was written by me, Deborah Bender. I don't feel like figuring out how to post it under my own name.

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Date: 2019-03-29 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You would think that after a while people would get frustrated or even bored when they keep doing the same thing and not only not getting result, but literally getting the *opposite* of what they are working towards.

There must be some other driver.

Question: I see that Andrew Yang has, at least for the time being, caught the attention of the Trump meme crowd. Which likely also includes the magic practitioners. Do you think they will jump to him? And if so will they have the moxy (mana?) to pull off a win?

AV

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Date: 2019-03-30 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] avalterra
Mess with the Dems? Maybe, but what I've read is that the /pol crowd is disappointed in the Donald and saw him as the last hope. So when Rogan put Yang on and introduced his $1000/month for every adult in America they thought, "Well heck, he is as bad a candidate as every other candidate but with him we get $1000/month!

It's being seen as the ultimate black pill response.

AV

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Mueller- not a killer prosecutor

Date: 2019-03-30 05:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You look at Mueller's back trail, he did a whitewash of Al Quaeda after the 1996 bombing. He did a whitewash of the Clintons after they took a half billion dollar bribe from Microsoft's competitors to sic the Justice Department on Microsoft and, oops, broke the dot.com boom. He covered for Epstein. No big takedowns behind him, just whitewashing guys the establishment wanted him to whitewash. Busting Trump's lawyers would have been effective if Trump wasn't so deeply comfortable with high-level staff turnover. No great killer instinct in Mueller.

But can the D party call it off? I doubt it. Trump won an election by saying he opposed the bipartisan consensus in favor of lower wages through high immigration. Sure, he lied, he's forming committees to focus H1B visa immigrants at any remaining high wage jobs. But Trump won saying different. If he isn't broken, we might see one, many, a thousand Trumps. So the whole establishment is out to get him, left and right. On the right, you can fight for lower wages with a clean heart and a calm mind, go home and watch the Godfather: This is the Business We Have Chosen. On the left, you help the bosses fight for lower wages and the whole soulful egregore of Leftism hates you, and your own soul revolts against you. You can't back down. A party of the left fights for lower wages and gets caught, it's like The Strange Death of Liberal England when England's Liberal party got caught.

Re: Mueller- not a killer prosecutor

Date: 2019-03-30 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The Department of Justice recently announced it is reopening it's investigation into Jeffery Epstein, including evidence that he was let off with a light sentence thanks to improper political influence. The DOJ is particularly interested in why he was allowed to take a plea deal to one of the lesser sex abuse charges in return for a widespread investigation into child sexual abuse, sex trafficking, money laundering and tax evasion being completely shut down.

It gets even more interesting when you consider Epstein's ties to the Clintons. FAA flight logs show that Bill Took at least 26 trips on Epstein's private jet, the aptly named Lolita Express. Several of those trips were to Epstein's private island resort, known as Orgy Island, while Secret Service logs obtained through the Freedom of Information Act show that every time Clinton flew to Orgy Island, he left his Secret Service security detail behind and he was required to sign waivers saying he was aware of the risks and would not hold the Secret Service responsible if anything happened.

Ever since these documents came to light, people have been asking why he would do such a thing. There have been reports of girls as young as 12 years old being gang raped both aboard the Lolita Express and on Orgy Island, while American law enforcement officers, including agents of the Secret Service, are subject to mandatory reporting requirements if they have reason to believe children are being sexually abused and there have long been suspicions that is why Clinton insisted on leaving his security detail behind whenever he went to Orgy Island.

It will be very interesting to see what comes out of the reopened investigation into Epstein.

Mueller?... Mueller?...

Date: 2019-03-30 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ill_made_knight
I caught this on the teevee the other night.
https://www.pbs.org/video/special-report-full-doc-1553565292/
the brief discussion at the end was interesting.
oh and off topic and a bit tangential, but rather amusing
https://abeautifulresistance.org/site/2019/3/15/empires-crumble-episode-11-we-are-losingheres-why

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Rhyd Wildermuth

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Date: 2019-03-31 12:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You know, pursuant to the brujo discussion, I think the various American ethnic groups may end up establishing different countries in 50-100 years. They’re already living in different countries mentally. And the whites will probably further subdivide into Deplorables and Wokelings. The latter of whom will get a nasty surprise when they find that no matter how Woke they are, the non-whites will still regard them as just as white as the most deplorable Deplorable. And of course the Deplorables won’t want anything to do with them either. They’ll probably be refused passports to all the new countries and spend their lives within the borders of Wokeland, wherever that turns out to be (probably what is now called the Acela corridor).

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Date: 2019-03-31 02:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
One other risk here is that a lot of people doing this working for justice will not like the results in their own lives...

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Date: 2019-03-31 10:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Whatever happened to Michael M Hughes? He insisted that it was old hat to do workings in private but it would seem that they have taken your advice.

When Trump wins in 2020 will there be a mass exodus from Neopaganism on the grounds that "TS doesn't W"?

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Date: 2019-03-31 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Certainly my friends and relatives in yuppie democrat land are behaving as if enchanted. It seems like crude and patently absurd propaganda to me (I had to remind my mother that the Soviet Union fell over 20 years ago) but these otherwise very intelligent people are acting brainwashed - they're still on about it even now, trying to parse the summary into its opposite. From whatever the cause I can only report that something is going on that is extremely and frighteningly effective.

national karma

Date: 2019-04-01 01:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ritaer
All of this pumping up Russia as the new enemy, same as the old enemy seems like a weird case of guilty conscience. While most statements that 'real communism didn't fail because it has never been given a chance' reek of apologies for the real repression of the old communist regimes there is a grain of truth to it. From the beginning Soviet Russia was warred upon and harassed and subjected to sanctions by the capitalist West. How would it have turned out if a great deal of national energy hadn't been diverted to fighting the counter revolution, if other nations had early established normal trade relations, etc? War nearly always strengthens a centralized state or encourages a non-centralized one to become more centralized. What if the Soviets hadn't had to put winning wars ahead of encouraging worker management, personal freedoms, etc. I'm currently reading a book called "Behind Putin's Curtain" by a German journalist who couchsurfed his way across Russia. It is pretty interesting and I will report on it here or in comments on main blog.

As far as the national karma goes--is there any nation that more deserves to have a foreign power meddle in its elections than the good old US of A?


Rita

Retreat

Date: 2019-03-31 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Muller et al appear to have been conducting a tactical withdrawal, inflicting as much damage as possible along the way and sifting for incriminating evidence with which to mount a fresh campaign in 2020. When the truth of the Clinton/Comey/Muller conspiracy with certain Russian oligarchs (Uranium 1 deal) comes to light expect to hear, "what difference does it make?" again. I expect a deal has been made, a few FBI operators will go down compensating for Trump team casualities, Big Fish will walk and Trump will continue to accommodate the MIC special interest block. All this while Empire ignores the coming failures in Venezuela and Syria and we little people are left to figure out how to feed and house ourselves in a collapsing system.
Seems to me the best magical efforts would be alchemical in nature to develop personal depth and attract allies, rather than to get in the middle of a dogfight.

Re: Retreat

Date: 2019-03-31 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Julian Assange has been incommunicado for a year, and they are leaning on him harder in private. The longer he's silenced, the longer he's not embarrassing the Clintons. Mueller's previous whitewashes generally blamed someone else for the stuff done by the guy he was covering for. I think Mueller is whitewashing Clinton's DNC by blaming Trump, so I'm surprised he ended the investigation. I thought he'd just keep on keeping on. But Trump has a lot of money and connections, and I suspect he gave Mueller's rug a jerk. Just a little one.

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