Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 197
May. 13th, 2025 09:32 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: WEF
Date: 2025-05-14 05:08 pm (UTC)Re: WEF
Date: 2025-05-14 05:37 pm (UTC)Re: WEF
Date: 2025-05-14 09:39 pm (UTC)Several dark health stories from old friends today— the usual list I get almost every week now.
I don't get easily depressed, however. I'm tough to kill in good part because I'm tough to psych out. This forum reminds me, I'm not alone. So thank you. And thank you all.
Nom du jour: Cobalt Berserk Snail
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Date: 2025-05-14 10:53 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/rfk-jr-stuns-critics-his-first-major-hearing/
he did pretty well, it seems.
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Date: 2025-05-14 11:55 pm (UTC)https://x.com/toobaffled/status/1922256613647261768#m
a short clip of a lawyer talking about the results seen in a control group
about a minute and a half.
Re: WEF
Date: 2025-05-15 12:58 am (UTC)1) that WEF is requiring unvaxxed pilots and crew - that is questionable at best.
2) That unvaxxed pilots are in high demand privately and doing very well - that strikes me as very likely.
Re: Hot takes
Date: 2025-05-15 01:26 am (UTC)And a note about TDS. Mainly I stay quiet when the people around me start thrilling to their TDS. And the funny thing is, they don't seem to notice that I'm staying quiet because they're so into it. They work themselves up sometimes to the point where they're practically spitting! And I'm not the only person who stays quiet in these situations. I'm noticing the people who stay quiet.
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Date: 2025-05-15 01:43 am (UTC)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14703505/aseem-malhotra-new-head-maha-rfk-jr-health-plans.html
well, i guess we'll see
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Date: 2025-05-15 01:49 am (UTC)I am often asked if the Covid Juice caused people to change or go crazy. Can’t say definitively but something went off the rails in the UK with new psychiatric PIP disability claims. 22 & 23 were up over 100% with a 14 standard deviation from trend.
https://x.com/DowdEdward/status/1922762554608320797#m
Re: Hot takes
Date: 2025-05-15 06:09 am (UTC)We are expecting a baby and in time honoured tradition we are receiving name suggestions from friends and family members.
Several times now we explicitly received a concerned advice to: “just please do not name him Elon”.
We talked it over, since it was such a bizarre suggestion. Neither of us ever found the name itself pretty, neither of us ever expressed much admiration for the guy. I have been known to express how the electric car “save the world” business is bogus. So why?
Then we noticed we never got a warning not to name him Donald.
Well, several of our friends and acquaintances are part of the lower middle class and like to see themselves as part of the PMC. They aspire to those ideals.
The Donald was always the rude philistine, and dumb to boot. No way a NY real estate magnate, successful media personality, and a legal expert that earned the adjective Teflon Trump could be smarter then a billy goat right. No way.
He was always the enemy of all that was decent.
But Musk. He was their hero, the guy who brought them Tesla, even though none of our friends ever could afford one. He was going to lead us back into space, …
And now he has betrayed those lofty ideals and joined with TRUMP incarnate! So he is worse.
BTW.: this is happening in Austria, Europe.
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Date: 2025-05-15 10:24 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-05-15 11:42 am (UTC)I need to check because here in this forum I normally take vaxxed to mean covid vaxxed. This video only makes sense to me if he means all vaxxes.
And, I wonder - where in the world - and I mean the whole world - is he finding a significantly sized control group of people who have not taken ANY vaccines?
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Date: 2025-05-15 01:52 pm (UTC)Friend needed to hire a trainer for weeklong training session. He was recommended a woman with a great history. As recent as 2 months ago she led a great session. A week ago, mid training, they had to cancel because she was completely incoherent (She arrived that way at the start of the week). Participants complained she couldn't present, finish sentences, stay organized, totally off the rails. Woman in her 30s. Never heard of that rapid a mental decline for someone that young. Shocked me as much as my first "Died Suddenly" person 4 years ago.
Re: Hot takes
Date: 2025-05-15 02:04 pm (UTC)There is a new thing in non-profit circles, a bit of an industry popping up around 'trump proofing' your org. News aggregators/NonProfit councils building a narrative around it and selling more subscriptions/memerberships. Lawyers offering advice. Webinars being sold. Now that people can make money off of it, they are ramping up the rhetoric and selling to the TDS vulnerable. They did this during covid and will do it again for the future current thing until they run out of this particular demographic.
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Date: 2025-05-15 02:28 pm (UTC)If there's no difference between the two can I make a Modest Proposal and merge the NIH into the military?
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Date: 2025-05-15 02:54 pm (UTC)Re: Hot takes
Date: 2025-05-15 03:31 pm (UTC)The political rant struck me as completely inappropriate, but apparently it's par for the course here in Deep Bluelandia.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 04:06 pm (UTC)I had yet another tirade in my inbox this morning from an anon who was incensed that I didn't put through an earlier flamebaiting political rant, and insisted that this proved that I, and this forum in general, were all the way over to one side of the political divide in the US. It doesn't matter which side, really, because I delete flamebaiting political rants from both sides of that divide quite regularly here.
It's intriguing to watch the mechanisms of projection at work. From the perspective of both extremes, anybody who isn't all the way over on one side must inevitably be all the way over on the other. That's been a thing all through my blogging career -- I recall the times the same post on the future of industrial society got denounced as dismal pessimism by true believers in progress and as mindless optimism by true believers in apocalypse, or the time that a later post got me accused of being a Nazi by various leftists, while a genuine Nazi posted a rant accusing me of being a Jew!
I get the impression, though, that this sort of rigid two-value thinking has become more common in recent months. Is that your experience also?
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Date: 2025-05-15 04:22 pm (UTC)Re: Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 04:42 pm (UTC)If these are merely symptomatic displays due to whatever is coming down the planes, one wonders how matters will develop over the coming weeks.
Saying that, I did see a story about (IIRC) Zurich University deploying various AI bots on reddit in order to see if they could influence people - if people are interacting more with LLMs, the sky could be the limit for induced craziness.
I've certainly had the feeling that it's time to batten down the hatches and can appreciate the old idea of disappearing up a mountain to avoid the humans. I thought Marcus Aurelius was being figurative in saying that the purpose of life is to avoid finding oneself in the ranks of the insane but now I'm wondering if he meant it quite literally.
Re: Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 04:54 pm (UTC)Re: Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 05:09 pm (UTC)Have also noticed an uptick in unexpected emotional states trying to bubble up in myself, like something is in the air... really wouldn't want to be without internal practices just now. Getting out digging and doing in garden is a life-saver. Probably daft, but sometimes it feels like there is more coming through screens than what I think I'm looking at! ;)
Am seriously considering shutting down all internet browsing for a time as a test.
Doubt we are too far from personalised bots generating individual feeds, stories and digital behavioural management. Could get wild.
Re: Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 05:31 pm (UTC)I don't see this binary thinking more than before, but it seems that people are hardening in their points of view. Also, when I have to interact with any service provider, the customer service is abysmal and it takes an enormous amount to get anything done, if at all. Many people seem to have tuned out. On the other hand, sometimes it feels more light than before. This month it seems like things in myself are more light, as if the usual obstacles have lost some of their gravity, or that my strenghth to counter it has grown.
Re: Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 05:34 pm (UTC)Last time I talked about electric cars the person I was discussing it with simply froze in his opinion. It got so bad, that I tested the water by citing the law of conservation of energy, and got told it cannot be right. I backed up, and became very polite, and just let the conversation drift off.
Then there was the time my father-in-law had a visit and they were discussing the economic future of the building industry. The speaker told us that once the war is over business will swing back up into growth, since “who else is going to rebuild Ukraine but us”. I quietly observed my father in law since just a day past we talked about the war and we both said that it is unwise to presume an outcome in a war. Again, we both simply kept quiet.
This is what I see, there is no two-value thinking, just one way of thinking. Where 2 years ago there were discussions of local politics, state elections, business ventures, now it is like everybody that can is just on autopilot.
Re: Observation
Date: 2025-05-15 05:47 pm (UTC)And of course there is also the presence of a spiky, biotoxic, blood-brain barrier crossing substance in a significant part of the population.