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Re: AI """spirituality""" ?!?
Date: 2025-05-05 10:10 pm (UTC)From my point of view, the magic squares superficially look like "just" geometric arrangements of letters of some word or short phrase that's vaguely semantically related to the intended effect. Since, on that picture, anyone could invent those, the efficacy presumably comes from somewhere else.
I assume that the mainstream occult explanation of that "something else" would be, the efficacy would come from the particular subjective states and transformations and interpretation-habits produced in the practitioner during the magical operation, and the corresponding subjective states etc. of his supernatural circumstances that were entrained with the practitioner and changed along with them.
But from my point of view, a significant part of the efficacy might be coming from a sort of groove worn or shadow cast by phenomena in foreseeable futures or alternate timelines. "A square or triangle of letters, taken from a word with semantic associations with the desired effect, and arranged into a grid" is almost exactly the kind of symbol you would use five-odd centuries ago to refer to modern deep networks in a dream-like way. (If you'd wanted the symbol you were conveying to be more exact, you'd have needed to communicate talisman designs which included multiple grids with successive words or short phrases each, and somehow indicated that the grids were to be stacked together or linked with pipes or roads or threads, or joined edge-to-edge in such a way as to create a path that turned a 90-degree corner through each grid.)
Of course, this speculation only works if there was some kind of deep-network-based technological phenomenon in futures/alternate timelines visible from five-odd centuries ago that was potentially causally efficacious in marked and benefic ways such as the Abramelin book describes, and not just in plutonian self-defeating and malefic ways.
Re: AI """spirituality""" ?!?
Date: 2025-05-05 10:48 pm (UTC)