Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 188

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

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[charlieobert]

This process sounds a lot like an idea that came up in Magic Monday this week - that we need a 12 step recovery process for people with terminal TDS.

We're dealing with something similar you could call Covid Derangement Syndrome or Vaxx Derangement Syndrome.

People who have begun the recovery process know that the single hardest part by far is step one - admitting you were wrong and taking responsibility for the harm you have caused to yourself and others. Everything else follows from that.

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[boccaccio]

A lot of people are nowhere near taking that first step. I get the impression that the higher someone's educational level, the less willing they are to admit their mistake. All those smarts are put to work to avoid the inavoidable.

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[(Anonymous)]

Last weekend, I ended my membership in my Quaker meeting over how it had responded to Covid. I read aloud my letter (studiously avoiding "science" and focusing on how actions taken over three years ago went against all sorts of Quaker testimonies.) I noted that fear had driven the response.

A majority of responses expressed regret, and one or two even explicitly expressed the opinion that the response was "wrong." But one person, "attending" the meeting over Zoom, heatedly denied that fear had motivated her. I can't possibly quote her. But she rather animatedly said that she was just trying to stay SAFE, as someone in her sixties, "working in a 'Trumpist' town" with no concern for her safety. "It was SCIENCE," she said. Another person expressed regret, but noted that even though she had done everything right, staying up to date on all vaccinations, she still got Covid last summer, got really sick, and now she had an irregular heart rhythm, too, and can exert herself hardly at all without terrible fatigue.

I remained silent, like a good Quaker. There is simply no changing other people, unless they are willing to admit they might have made a mistake.