Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 182
Jan. 28th, 2025 10:22 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-01-28 10:32 pm (UTC)Yeah right, like the CIA tells the truth. IMO the virus is still bollox. As Jon Rappoport always says "show me the virus".
The bioweapon was the injected 'vaccine', the rest was psyop, statistical manipulation and killing people in a variety of ways to get the death numbers up.
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-01-29 05:51 am (UTC)I think this is the best take: Ron Unz's "Our COVID-19 Catastrophe: Was the Epidemic the Result of Biowarfare Blowback?"
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59829397-our-covid-19-catastrophe
If only it had the AI hypothesis which is in plane sight, this is why Robert Malone and a lot of people including those who made it don't realise what happened and the ramifications, because something else produced it.
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-01-29 02:32 pm (UTC)I get annoyed with all of the "there wasn't even a virus" crowd. There was totally a virus. But the vaccine was a complete, COMPLETE disaster.
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-01-29 04:18 pm (UTC)Yes I am of the opinion that the BOVID(male BOVIne curD) waxxine make at least double the trouble, in itself and by exposing the body to even more BOVID, and has also a malefic synergy...
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-01-31 10:40 pm (UTC)There are umpteen different ways to poison you to get a range of symtoms which are perceived as "illness from a virus". The wall of propaganda around the modern medical system and the 'cures', which mostly don't actually do anything except make money, is truly outstanding.
"The Medical Pharmaceutical Killing Machine" is a good read for "Dissolving Illusions" (that's a book about the BS behind vaxxes).
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-02-01 02:49 am (UTC)Personally I think the situation might be that we don't exactly know what a virus is. Fortunately. Imagine if science knew. How dangerous and perilous the weapons they would employ! Also I think life has an intrinsic protection against weaponization.
I think at the moment AI is generating stuff it doesn't understand. The molecular equivalent of, if you'd have a hand like that it would still be some danger, but not as useful as a real hand:
Re: A few wins this week, and hope for more
Date: 2025-02-01 03:00 pm (UTC)I would encourage you to consider levels of abstraction in this sentence. What you KNOW is that there is a disease - you KNOW it to have (in your phrasing) "kicked butt" in people, including in your wife, who you personally know, and who you sat with through her sufferings.
So, yes, the suffering is real, and the disease is real.
But, is a virus real? How would you know? How would I know? Let's suppose viruses are real. They are still undetectable in any sense that you or I could muster or assemble from our own resources. If we are to stick to what we actually KNOW, and actually CAN KNOW, we can certainly attest to the suffering and disease experienced by ourselves and by those we know and love.
Getting down to causes is much more difficult and, in these highly polarised times, highly contentious. And skewed by ideology, by profit, by tribalism and by other human failings known to generate smoke and create mirrors that obscure rather than illuminate. But determining cause is also a full remove away from what the sick actually need, and perhaps we do not even need to go there.
Perhaps, sticking with our knowledge that someone IS suffering with a disease, we might start offering care and treatment, applying general guidelines gained from clinical and personal experience, and relying upon the person's own signs and symptoms, to best determine what is effective to activate the processes in that person that best leads to their healing.
Does it really help to insist that their disease is a virus? any more than it does to deny that their illness is a virus? None of us can KNOW anything much about viruses - their presence or their absence - with any certainty, whereas if we stick to the certainty we can agree on - that (say) here is a clinically detectable, and personally experienced, disease, then we can stay on common ground and keep sharing tips for healing that might be useful.