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beyond the narrativesMidnight is almost here, and so it's time to launch a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism, and with certain exceptions noted below, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after that point will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted.  If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 341,928th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.2 of The Magic Monday FAQ here

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Date: 2025-01-13 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear JMG and commentariat,

Are you familiar with Stephen Jenkinson, a retired Canadian palliative care practitioner who is traveling about speaking about death and how our culture is 1) death-phobic and 2) bereft of elders. His claim is age doesn't confer elderhood automatically, rather it's a learned skill presumably from other elders.

The experience that he commonly saw on people's deathbed was a terrorizing fear of ceasing to exist. He reports that many people at their end had to be drugged up to a point of half-consciousness to escape that all-consuming dread.

One of Jenkinson's issues with current popular thought is the pervasive theme of limitlessness. If I understand him correctly, he chafes at the idea that we continue on after death, that it's a transition. I think I get what he's going at, but esoteric philosophy teaches that some part of us does indeed carry on beyond incarnation.

I'm curious what your thoughts are on this as you (JMG) used to worked with elderly people. I'd also like to hear from others what they think of this one aspect of Jenkinson's observations.

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Date: 2025-01-13 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There is no paradox if what is terrifying for him is the prospect of an afterlife-- or just continued existence. A lot of materialists hold the view that nonexistence is better than (excessively long) existence. (Others want to live forever using technology, of course.)

Does this have anything to do with the "Attraction of Outer Space" in the CosDoc?

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Date: 2025-01-13 07:07 pm (UTC)
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That’s interesting. Most of my not inconsiderable experience with dying people has been that they’re mostly ready to get on with it. If they needed to be drugged it was typically for pain, which wasn’t the least of the reasons they were ready to move on. But my experience is in a rural Texas agricultural community, where older people especially tend to be Christian believers as well as pretty matter of fact about biilogical realities and often more than usually beat up by old age (especially the men).

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Date: 2025-01-13 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Having watched the dynamic with my own family, I've long wondered how much of the fear of death is being projected onto the elderly from their younger relatives; people who are terrified of it, but unwilling to admit it could pretty easily start to insist that the elderly are the ones terrified of dying...

fear of death

Date: 2025-01-14 02:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ritaer
I have read that people who work with the dying have a term, seagull. This refers to the relative who 'flies in from the coast and sh*ts on all the plans' that the relatives who live closer have made. This usually takes the form of insisting that everything possible be done regardless of the wishes of the actual patient.


Rita

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Date: 2025-01-13 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Makes me think of Ibsen's play "Peer Gynt." Everyone has to go to the button moulder when they die, get melted down and molded into new buttons. But Peer fears losing his "Gyntishness" in the process.

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Date: 2025-01-13 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Today's local paper has a headline, "K9 officer passes away after battle with kidney disease." So, even dogs don't just die: they must "pass away."

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Date: 2025-01-14 02:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yogaandthetarot
Very interesting discussion. I’d like to contribute that perhaps some of the “dread” observed with the dying may have partial physiological causes? The deterioration of the body includes various organs malfunctioning. Would guess most of us have experienced the “dread” that comes with food poisoning or a hangover. What was that old saying ? “You're only a-live as your live-er, or something like that. Often the liver is severely compromised after an illness or as we age.

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Date: 2025-01-14 03:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Surely there's something that hits its wall at death, if it hasn't already found it in itself to stop short of its own accord. Perhaps Jenkinson feels it necessary to tell people "everything hits a wall", because he unconsciously sees the alternative message as being "nothing you're actually attached to hits a wall, just some things you can safely blithely tell yourself you already don't care about and go on without having to change anything about yourself".

Then, of course, there's the problem of where we might be encountering Jenkinson with respect to his initiation of the nadir or whatever. If someone is under a carefully-managed maya where they think the responsible thing to do is "admit" the limitations of blank materiality, and try to reason forward from that premise as to what chimerical hopes it makes the world better to tell people not to invest any resources or hope into, of course they're going to say things like that.

I can't really speculate usefully beyond that point since I haven't read anything by him.

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Date: 2025-01-14 03:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(reposted with fixed formatting)

Surely there's something that hits its wall at death, if it hasn't already found it in itself to stop short of its own accord. Perhaps Jenkinson feels it necessary to tell people "everything hits a wall", because he unconsciously sees the alternative message as being "nothing you're actually attached to hits a wall, just some things you can safely blithely tell yourself you already don't care about and go on without having to change anything about yourself".

Then, of course, there's the problem of where we might be encountering Jenkinson with respect to his initiation of the nadir or whatever. If someone is under a carefully-managed maya where they think the responsible thing to do is "admit" the limitations of blank materiality, and try to reason forward from that premise as to what chimerical hopes it makes the world better to tell people not to invest any resources or hope into, of course they're going to say things like that.

I can't really speculate usefully beyond that point since I haven't read anything by him.
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