Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 172

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Shepherds For Sale by Megan Basham

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting.

The Devil has always quoted scripture of course, with great ingenuity.

That they rushed to get injected, persecuted members of their congregations who declined to be masked or vaccinated, and endorsed general societal discrimination, exposed their religious faith for what it always was: a worthless pretence.

What faith in the Divine did they show, what Christian brotherhood and true compassion? Thankfully, no priest or theologian can have anyone burnt at the stake these days, but they can still wreck lives through treachery. If only they had stood firm!

The fearful ones were clinging to the world like any atheist materialist.

Re: Shepherds For Sale by Megan Basham

[(Anonymous)]

I wrote here a couple of years ago about how my Quaker meeting had banned the unvaccinated (me!) from the main worship room. Instead, I could sit out in the "fellowship" room with all the windows open. In winter. Did it a couple times, then stopped going altogether. Except for the funerals. The separate but equal stuff ended sooner than I expected, (but only when experts on TV and NPR and in NY Times declared it was safe .)

I have decided to submit a formal letter of resignation, probably just a couple of lines, something to the effect of "I quit. We all know why, and this is simply acknowledging something that has already happened"

Re: Shepherds For Sale by Megan Basham

[(Anonymous)]

I remember you writing about this. I remember the image of being seated in a different room with the windows open!

I looked into attending an eastern Orthodox church here in this big city and found a website and gagged at the 'obedience to authorities' nonsense.

Best wishes to you!

Re: Shepherds For Sale by Megan Basham

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely too many 'religious authorities' caved to the Holy Vax of the Church of Progress! I recall having conversations, during the darkening days of creeping authoritarianism in 2022, with a friend who grew up in the USSR. He is staunch Eastern Orthodox. He told me that neither he nor most of his congregation will go anywhere near the satanic foxes!

Ron M