Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 162

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules have been slightly modified: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Cambridge University says children as young as 15 should take statins to reduce heart attack risk

https://www.stationgossip.com/2024/09/cambridge-university-says-children-as.html

[scotlyn]

Here is a good overview of this particular drug, which does not TREAT any known disease, but is sold instead as the taking of a "sure thing" health gamble - apparently, it reduces a "risk factor".

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-diseases/dangers-of-statin-drugs-what-you-havent-been-told-about-popular-cholesterol-lowering-medicines/

[scotlyn]

Also, here is a study by cardiologists, the abstract of which is available here (the rest behind the usual paywall).

https://www.internationaljournalofcardiology.com/article/S0167-5273(08)00325-2/abstract

Abstract:
The double-edged sword of statin immunomodulation
Mark R. Goldsteina markrgoldstein@comcast.net ∙ Luca Mascitellib lumasci@libero.it ∙ Francesca Pezzettac francesca.pezzetta@libero.it

Statin drugs are widely prescribed to achieve aggressive low-density lipoprotein lowering in order to decrease cardiovascular disease. Although some of the immunomodulatory effects of statins may stabilize atherosclerotic plaque, they may be harmful in certain segments of the population. Recently, statins have been shown to increase the concentration of regulatory T cells (Tregs), in vivo. There is evidence that this increases the risk of many cancers, particularly in the elderly. Furthermore, a statin induced increase in Tregs may be detrimental in neurodegenerative disorders, such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis; and a myriad of infectious diseases. These include, but are not limited to, human immunodeficiency virus, hepatitis B virus, hepatitis C virus, and varicella zoster virus. These issues need our attention, and call for a heightened state of vigilance among those prescribing statins.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course they should, because asking why young people are having heart attacks all of a sudden is hard. So much easier to just give them more drugs. Contrary to what the nice police officer in the D.A.R.E program told me in my elementary school classroom many years ago, today we know that drugs are _always_ the answer.