Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 162

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules have been slightly modified: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Subjective minds

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting point.

I was one of the people who said that I thought part of the reason I didn't get caught up in Cootie Mania was because I was raised by a narcissistic parent, and the covid-related manipulation tactics all felt really, really familiar.

But now that you mention it, I've also never gotten engrossed in the things you mention either.

I can watch a live sporting event and appreciate the skill and strategy of the players, but I can't really get caught up in caring who wins. (What difference does it really make? It's just a game.) Needless to say, I also lacked "school spirit" my entire educational career. Yes, if I knew people on the school team I would wish them well, and I can understand how playing sports could be fun for the participants, but in the back of my mind, I always knew that I could have just as easily wound up at a different school/college and be expected to cheer for them instead, so why was everyone so invested in who won? It all seemed kind of arbitrary. Weddings don't move me; I always feel a bit detached form what feels like a stage show to me. I can enjoy staged shows (theater, film), but I know it's not real.

I tend to find politics to be surreal as well - looking around thinking, why is everyone so worked up about this? Whoever gets elected will get elected and there will be some consequences either way and we'll have to deal with them and life will go on. (shrug)

Looking back, I've always been a bit "detached" for lack of a better word. Even as a child, I remember other kids getting caught up in things while I was standing there thinking "how odd".

I'm not un-emotional - I have, for example, cried at funerals and burials, but that's more directly related to a personal emotional response that would have existed even in isolation. (I ALREADY FELT grief, I wasn't just RESPONDING to the event, if that makes sense.)

I don't know if all of this is somehow related to being raised by a narcissist, or if it's something else entirely.

Re: Subjective minds

[frittermywig]

I like "detachment" a lot. Like JMG, below, describing the effect of his autism ("no emotional connection"). This theme has been brought up before, but it's starting to sink in. I trace my own detachment to the broken homes of my childhood. This is an important element.