Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 157

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

China and Russia

[bruno86]

JMG, there's just one problem, China and Russia are in there, too...but these two countries did not pushed for mRNA vaccines. Both developed their own COVID-19 vaccines,but using the traditional method, that is, inactivated viruses. If the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines were the cause of the global spike in under-50 cancer rates, China and Russia shouldn't be on that list.

Re: China and Russia

[(Anonymous)]

This would seem to me to suggest the problem is the Covid-19 vaccines, regardless of type.

September

[(Anonymous)]

In about a month, I will be back at my yearly pediatrician's office for my children's yearly visit. I dread it. They are cooties mania all the way. Still in masks after all this time, the 'every human being is a vector of disease' is tiresome and it's what the PMC are feeding these kids. It's disgraceful but we've been with them so long, I know my wife won't change. And of course, they will push the full course of vaccinations, what can I push back on, what's baked in the cake for school attendance? It feels like a war, this onslaught of captured medical interests, it's the tip of the spear, what they are able to get away with on our kids. Don't know if I will be able to hold my tongue, will I get my kids and myself kicked out of the yuppie halls of medicine? My wife would kill me but it real feels like we're almost at zero hour on so many other things anyhow, why not make a stand where it really counts. Going into year four and it looks like there's so much more to go. So much of it is boiling under the surface.

Re: September

[(Anonymous)]

We haven't seen a pediatrician in years. Only go to doctors if someone's dreadfully ill, and it just doesn't happen with the kids.

Do you have to go?

[(Anonymous)]

At this point, I think it's safe to say that there is plenty of evidence for immune dysfunction among the vaccinated. Does anyone know what this does to pathogens? What kind of evolution will they undergo if they are free from the usual constraints of normal human immune systems?

What worries me is that there might be diseases that can jump into humans and establish themselves among people with weakened immune systems, and then adapt to become able to infect even those of us with normal immune systems. Does anyone know if this could happen?

[stubborn_ass]

There is quite enough circumstantial evidence now that lyme disease was likely another lab-leak gone awry, or done on purpose, your pick. A lot of lyme's symptoms seem to be autoimmune in nature, yet the system has resisted classifying it as such. Flare-ups can happen on and off, so whatever is actually responsible for lyme is likely hiding in a semi-dormant state in the nerves - like how the chickenpox virus does, and manifests as shingles when a person's immune system is in a weakened state.

So there's some obscure research, buried without publicity and with no follow-up, suggesting that a certain miracle compound seems to work it's magic against lyme too. Yup.. the one and only.... VIM. That starts to open up another huge can of worms about the official theory about lyme, that it's caused by certain bacteria.

Anyways, I would suggest a different risk assessment when looking at a vexed person with an immuno-compromised system, who frequently gets sick with the coof or whatever. It's not the 'new variants' story which MSM has been pushing from the beginning, as the real risk is that the person is just carrying a huge viral load, thus making him much more infectious if you are in close proximity for long.

If you think your immune system is not strong enough to handle the potential workload, then remember to help yourself to that which restores your vim and vigor.

[(Anonymous)]

The CDC recommends everyone ages 6 months and older receive an updated vaccine to protect getting severely sick from Covid...
New COVID-19 variant causes cases to double, CDC says to protect against getting
Source: CBS Philadelphia

clip at link

https://nitter.poast.org/newstart_2024/status/1820712580710584392#m

[(Anonymous)]

Week 157

Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

Cetiosaurus

Anecdotal changes in maternity care

[(Anonymous)]

I'm usually a lurker, but I've noticed that there have been some drastic changes in maternity care the last few years.

For context, my oldest is 9 and my youngest was born last week, so I've got about a decade of comparison. I'm also under 35 and have never had any complications (aside from some very easy twins), so I'm a very low-risk ob patient.

All that said, with this most recent baby, I started noticing some weird behavior from the OB. Right around the third or fourth appointment, my OB started giving me the hard sell to see the high risk specialist for an ultrasound. Not because she was concerned, but because it was a new practice policy because the "high risk specialist had a better ultrasound machine and they liked the data they were getting."

This isn't a research institution. It's just a suburban ob/gyn practice. They aren't even affiliated with any of the larger mega-practices, just three doctors and a few PAs.

I blew them off, because I didn't really see the need for seeing the specialist, and a few months later we moved states and I switched practices.

But the same thing happened at the new practice. "Oh, we're making you an appointment with the high-risk specialist, because their ultrasound machine is better and we like the data that it gives us."

Around this time, I noticed that the "What To Expect" app had also changed in the last two years. All of a sudden, the app was sending me aggressive notifications that "it's time to do a kick-count!" (Meaning it's time to sit in a quiet room and count how many times the baby kicks in the course of 20 minutes to an hour). There were highway billboards and bus ads advertising kick counts too, where once were speech therapy/early education intervention PSAs.

This time I did go to the high risk specialist for the mandatory ultrasound, and I ended up chatting with the doctor about the fact that I didn't expect any issues, because even with my twins I never had any problems.

Which is when the doctor let it slip that she's been ridiculously busy the last few months, and that people will come in for one small issue and end up having a cascade of complications, and that she really enjoys having patients come in who don't actually have anything wrong for once.

It's minor anecdotal evidence to be sure, so take it with a grain of salt, but it seems like there has been a sea-change in the world of maternal medicine, and that internally the policy has changed on monitoring for complications. But at the same time, no one wants to say that the policy has changed, and instead they want to pretend that "oh, we're just getting better data this way," as if "data" was just something that existed in a vacuum and that you collected for the sake of it, instead of being used to identify problems and try to correct them.

It definitely lends credence to the concerns that people are having more issues conceiving and carrying healthy babies post-jab, in my opinion.

Re: Anecdotal changes in maternity care

[(Anonymous)]

Dear lord.

We're not really expecting any problems at the neighbourhood bbq but 'just in case' we're sending in some officers with incredibly effective stun guns.

The Graphic Says A Lot

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks a lot for this week's image; it tangentially answers the question I was going to ask about where have elevated death rates been observed.

US, Canada, and Western Europe hugh as I expected, Africa and the Middle East low as I expected, but I agree, the "medium" rate showing in Russia and China is a bit odd.

They did try killed-virus vaccines whch as I recall from a conversation on this forum a couple of years ago, as well as Wikipedia's article about coronaviruses in general, are pretty much a non-starter with coronaviruses. The immune system doesn't react in the usual way, rather it turns into a blithering idiot re the coronavirus and lets it infect you worse after the vaccine.

Could the effect be a general, not specific supression of the immune system, which would make it less able to clean up cancer cells as well?

- Cicada Grove

Re: The Graphic Says A Lot

[(Anonymous)]

I won't trust any western media concerning anything about Russia or China. It would look pretty sus if all the countries that used mrna therapies had a tidal wave of cancers but no increased rates in countries that used tradition, proven methods. I would take all such "data" with a pound of salt.

MaddAdam Trilogy

[(Anonymous)]

I don't remember if anyone ever mentioned these books here or not, but I think that with the start of the fourth year of these open posts a mention might be warranted. The books I'm talking about are the "MaddAdam" trilogy by Margaret Atwood - Oryx and Crake, The Year of the Flood and MaddAddam. The books seem to almost be a prophesy of the Covid affair, in the same way that the novel about the sinking of ocean liner Titan seem to be a prophesy of the sinking of Titanic a few years later - a number of facts in common, the rest wildly different. A prophesy seen through a funhouse mirror.

I have no idea what the author views on the ongoing Covid affair are. Whether she fell for it like so many people of liberal bent did - how Naomi Klein completely missed the greatest example of The Shock Doctrine ever and became a total Branch Covidian is totally shocking - or did she recognize the echos from her work enough to keep herself safe?

I don't know how many people's vaccine hesitancy derived from this work - the all in vaccine campaign felt eerily familiar to similar advertising campaign for BlyssPluss described in the novel. The novel certainly had an influence on my thinking. We now know that she also nailed the business dynamics of the pharmaceutical and medical industry, even though it seemed like satire at the time.

John of Red Hook

Re: MaddAdam Trilogy

[(Anonymous)]

From what I can gather, Atwoods views on the covid matter fall into the True Believer camp.

It's astonishing to me how many people who, really, truly should have known better based on past knowledge totally fell for the Cooties-19 hysteria.

Atwood apparently did not spot any echoes of her own work. Naomi Klein couldn't recognize a shock doctrine when it happened all around her. Noam Chomsky couldn't see consent being manufactured in real time right under his nose. Michael Moore couldn't see a massive assault on labor happening even as governments and corporations colluded to strip American workers of rights and sink mom-and-pop shops while transferring trillions of taxpayer dollars into the pockets of global corporations. The American Civil Liberties Union decided that civil liberties were totally expendable after all, and the "my body my choice" crowd decided that it's the governments' and employers' choice, actually.

I'm still kind of flabbergasted by it all, even after all this time.

Covid spreads to Australian olympic team

[(Anonymous)]

Covid spreads to Australian olympic team

https://www.espn.in/olympics/story/_/id/40730205/covid-spreads-australian-olympic-team

Re: Covid spreads to Australian olympic team

[stubborn_ass]

So Noah Lyles who was the favourite for the men's 200m on the track skipped the media meeting after his 200m semi-final yesterday and went to the medical centre at the Olympic village. I guessed it was covid, say 90+%. He raced in the final today and came in 3rd and had to be stretchered off the track. It was later confirmed that he had the coof.

Thing is... I've seen a video where he was joshing with some fellow athletes a year ago and he was complaining that he just had covid AGAIN... yet no one else in his family got it, not even his GF was who still intimate with him at that point (girlfriend is a Jamaican sprinter who trained mostly in Jamaica, hence likely escaped most of the coof mandates).

So this is a world-class track athlete, who seems to have a slightly higher level of smarts for an athlete, making millions a year, surrounded by a whole team, and they still haven't figured out or told him that he needs to detox from the shots or actively keep up his base immunity? Compared to someone like No-vax Djokovic who just won the tennic gold, who stuck firm to his principles and suffered huge public opprobrium. I can tell that Noah Lyles wants to be liked, which means mentally it's much harder for him to push back at the system as he's seen how the mass media is turned against any dissidents. Oh well.. I'm seeing a ton of athletes who obvious had their 'career' year last year, or this year, and it's because their souls have chosen to go out with a bang this way. Not cursing them, but it will be all downhill for them afterwards... not cursing them as they chose their own fate, but I'm enjoying this last display of their athletic prowess.

Update on the Ambulance situation:

[(Anonymous)]

An update on the Ambulance situation:

This summer has been a steady litany of sirens in my general work area. No real up-and-down pattern that I had noticed before, it's been steady this summer.

Makes me wonder if the mid-term effects are finally getting through.

Donald C. Hargraves

Re: Update on the Ambulance situation:

[(Anonymous)]

Ditto.+ police cars. + fire trucks. I suspect for the same thing mostly.

NZ forced vaccinations

[(Anonymous)]

I'm curious to know what the New Zealanders on this forum think of their government's latest plans to legalise forced vaccines. What is the status of this? Is it already a fact?

https://www.instagram.com/wild_and_freenz/p/C-LkYqdyDVI/?img_index=wild_and_freenz

Re: NZ forced vaccinations

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the regulatory changes hold any real relevance, whether the recent updates are true or not.

Existing laws in no way hindered our government's actions previously; they simply rewrote the law on an emergency basis to legalise whatever they wanted. It was quickly heading to the direction of forced injections until the parliamentary grounds protests (inspired by the Canadian truckers) threw a spanner in their works. Legality had no bearing on what the technocrats thought they could do, and no power to stop them either.

There were a whole series of what should have been cut and dry court cases to stop what our government was doing based on solid precedent and even supposedly foundational existing laws like our bill of rights. Every single one was thrown out by the judge for spurious and non-rational reasons - our judiciary may be nominally independent of the government; but it is very much a part of our (so called high) society and went just as mad.

In watching the last few years I've come to see that Law is of a fairytale nature; it is a veneer pasted over the top of actions as a post-rationalisation that says much about what the characters think of themselves but has little to do with driving reality.

Curiously the thing the finally broke our hapless Prime Minister was the relentless personal harassment she suffered wherever she went. It disrupted her own fairytale of being a pure perfect good person, and she could not cope with that. Thus she is now in self-imposed exile (in the US I think) because the challenges still happen wherever she goes in NZ, and probably will for a long time to come.

[scotlyn]

"mystery spikes"...

Hmm. That headline writer might benefit from doing a meditation or two on that phrasing... ;)

The chemistry behind the fibrinaloid clots

[(Anonymous)]

Tom Haviland, the citizen researcher looking at what the embalmers are finding in the way of fibrinaloid clots (aka "white clots"), is with embalmer Richard Hirschman and organic polymer chemist Greg Harrison in a long & detailed podcast on the topic of why these might be forming. According to Haviland's surveys of embalmers, these fibrinoid clots started showing up in a large percentage of bodies in 2021.

Embalmer Richard Hirschman starts off by displaying a test tube of a 19 inch-long fibrinoid clot which he recently removed from a corpse.

Greg Harrison begins his presentation at 11:24

Breaking Bombshell report Greg Harrison presentation part 2 on how white clots are formed
Nova Scotia Free Speech Bulletin Podcast
https://rumble.com/v58sxv8-breaking-bombshell-report-greg-harrison-presentation-part-2-on-how-white-cl.html

Thinking in metaphor...

[(Anonymous)]

I have this strange metaphor of symphony orchestra being a microcosm of our westen civilization. To have a symphony orchestra you need a lot of people, who need to be able to concentrate in a very specialized work of playing one instrument in a highly accomplished way. One needs to practice for years full-time. And you need a conductor, who has their specialist skills. Symphony orchestra cannot make it without conductor. The funnies about the traveling of sound through the air, and the distances because of the large amount of players make it so, that a time-keeper is necessary, the players can't keep together just by playing by the ear. The symphony orchestra is somewhat like the western civilization: requiring highly specialized, trained&skilled workers, expensive instrumets, extremely capable and precise leadership, to be able to deliver on what they promise. Even minor mistakes become very visible, and missing the notes or the time gets the whole thing in chaos. Fragile as anyting. At the the core of the symphony orchestra is the intention of playing a specific piece of music, and the unanimous agreement on how to do it. We used to be playing the tune of "western civilization" Now, there is little agreement of what the notes of that tune are, and how it should be played. And when the chaos has emerged, the orchestra cannot deliver what was promised, and all want to play the blame game, besides having a million differing views on how to get back to what was. And the memebers of the orchestra set up their own competing little bands to make a living now that the symphony orchestra gravy train is collapsing, and the conductor wants to have a standing army to force the orchestra do what they're supposed to do. 80% are still playing as if nothing happened, but it really does not sound right, and all know it, but the 80% just think the bad thigs will go away if they just continue as before. And what made this visible? Our theme critter, covid. That little patch of (walled) garden of eden - experiencing a symphony orchestra (or our civilization) perform in top form - is fading. Karma, maybe...I mean, how did this civilization get so rich that people could specialize in playing music? Other patches of garden will pop up elsewhere, no doubt. Truly, The Times They Are A-Changin. And the 80% feel special and threatened - just like the Germans, or Israelis, or Ukraninas.
-Kristiina

[(Anonymous)]

WHO Director Considers Declaring Public Health Emergency Over Mpox Virus Outbreak


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-director-considers-declaring-public-health-emergency-over-mpox-virus-outbreak

[(Anonymous)]

Remember to pronounce 'monkeypox' correctly: the 'k' is silent.

[(Anonymous)]

‘Stunning Reversal’: World-Renowned Vaccinologist Publishes Paper Admitting Lack of Vaccine Safety Studies

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/stanley-plotkin-vaccine-safety-cola/

[scotlyn]

The abstract* shows that the paper** is, of course, a plea for more funding for the post-vaccine safety surveillance that the authors admit is sorely lacking, leading to "public concern" about vaccines and reduced uptake.

* "Abstract: The slow speed of science contributes to public concern about vaccines and reduced immunization coverage. Postauthorization safety research requires timely funding linked to the introduction of new vaccines."

** https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2402379

Sadly the paper is paywalled and sci-hub have not yet filed a copy of it. I'll check back there in a few days to see if I can find it.


PS. I remember watching hours and hours' worth of a deposition from one of the paper's authors Stanley Plotkin a few years back. I have just found a link to that deposition for anyone interested.

https://njvaccinescience.org/plotkin-deposition/

[(Anonymous)]

German Media Admits Unvaxxed Are ‘Winners,’ Demands Government ‘Apologize’

https://slaynews.com/news/german-media-admits-unvaxxed-winners-demands-government-apologize/

[(Anonymous)]

What did we win?

[(Anonymous)]

Tim Walz established a “snitch” program during Covid where people report neighbors for violating his authoritarian stay-at-home orders

https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1820829526785479035

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder if I'm going to have to change my name. A couple of decades ago I did the trendy thing and searched my name online. That's when this one popped up on my radar. At the time I thought, good, no one will make it to page 11 zillion to see if I exist.

Now I wonder if all the energy being directed at a person of that name will spill-over and get me. I already received messages from people I know who think they are being ironic by linking us. It was my name before he was born.

[(Anonymous)]

Kamala Harris's new running mate, Tim Walz, bribed families with $200 to get vaccines for children aged 5 to 11

https://nitter.poast.org/ShadowofEzra/status/1820946001211093157#m

[(Anonymous)]

I live in an institution, and got the first three shots because they were mandatory as in 'taken-for-granted you'll get them,' just like the flu shots. On May 1, 2022, I had a day-long bout of diarrhea that would not quit. Since then, I've been turning up with one thing after another giving them trouble, but with an ultrasound showing no mechanical damage at all. However, since the outburst was treated as an infection, with a very harsh antibiotic prescribed, that may also be the root of the problem. However, the timing was suspicious.

You tell me, and we'll both know.

The Grey Badger

[(Anonymous)]

Hello Gray Badger,

I am not a doctor, but I can say that if I were in your shoes I'd try ivermectin and nattokinase, and so on and so forth.

Perhaps of interest: a coworker took 3 covid jabs and ended up with muscle weakness and pain and also many months of very bad GI issues. What cured her of the GI issues, she said, and almost instantly, was quite simple: on waking, before breakfast, a tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil.

Polkadot Possum

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi!

[fredsmith11]

To the poster who mentioned the Aussie team has COVID, what's hilarious is like a bunch of zombies, they all got off their plane on arrival in Paris wearing masks.

Nb. The Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi! chant originated at the Sydney Olympics, but it's now a sort of parody chant, mostly favored by the inebriated.

One of the free apps I use on my phone pays its way by throwing ads at you. Recently there's been an ad exhorting you to use your phone to monitor your heart and part of the pitch is a highlights reel of people falling over clutching their heart. Interestingly, most of the people shown keeling over are waaay younger than me, in their 20s mostly.

Is there a reason why young people are more affected by climate change than us oldies?

[(Anonymous)]

Africa and the middle east jump out at me, looking at that map. What is different about those two regions?

[(Anonymous)]

They're the world's poorest countries; the disease-hysteria bogeyman just wasn't in their national budgets.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking anecdotally, I’m at 35 years old and have personally known over 10 people my age or younger who have been diagnosed with some form of cancer or other (only 1 was terminal). For years I’ve found this incredibly disturbing, given our ages. I was never sure if it was just an anomaly, or if it was representative of larger trends nationally or globally.

It doesn’t, however, align with the COVID vaccine hypothesis. All but 1 of them were diagnosed with cancer prior to the beginning of the pandemic in 2020 (4 of them were while I was in college in the early 2010s).

To me, it seems indicative of other environmental toxins that have become ubiquitous and pervasive. Whether it’s our food, water, or technology:

[(Anonymous)]

10!
Did you all live in the same area?

Depopulation - Falling Birthrates

[fredsmith11]

Generally, I'm suspicious of COVID-related numbers, unless I can get to see the source data and understand how the numbers were derived. I've been tracking Australian death nos via the ABS for 3+ years, so I understand those well.

The latest ABS birth nos were published in Oct 23, are for 2022 year and say 2022 births were down 3% on 2021. They don't publish monthly updates as with deaths, so it's spot trends.

It is common knowledge that birthrates in most of the West have been well under replacement for a long time, so the 3% drop could have been a continuation of that existing trend. Hard to say.

Obviously based on stories of stillbirths and spontaneous abortions in jab recipients, it's likely that the jab will have contributed to the decline in births, but by how much I can't say.

What's not well understood how DIFFICULT it is to reverse trends such as birthrates once they are established, whatever the reasons behind them. Governments can offer a plethora of incentives, but if people have become accustomed to not having children, or only one or maybe two, the incentives often don't work.

Coming from a Peak Oil background, Seneca Cliff etc, I've always expected that resource availability would cause a population collapse. As things stand it looks as though population will collapse of its own accord from societal trends.

Here's a post from Musk on Twitter/X highlighting the recent drop in birthrates: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1821408782712291808 The nos appear to come from a valid source, are surprising and alarming.

Note also in most Western countries the birthrates of the original (as of a few decades ago) citizens are well below the actual rate, as immigrants generate far more births.

- - - -
Births/woman from 2015 to 2023:
1.78 to 1.14 in Chile
1.79 to 1.45 in UK
2.24 to 1.35 in Argentina
1.24 to 0.72 in S Korea

What most people fail to grasp about the low birthrate crisis is the sheer speed of the decline. This chart (NYT) shows how much births dropped in 1 year.

Re: Depopulation - Falling Birthrates

[claire_58]

It's a thorny one. Teasing apart the contributing factors is very tricky. I'd like to see the marriage rates and some real numbers on the impact of the economic destabilization and wealth stripping.

People don't get married or have children when their personal economics don't match their expectations. Where there is access to modern birth control the birth rate drops when there is political instability. Birth rates also drop when the costs of educating children becomes an overwhelming burden.

[(Anonymous)]

This Doesn’t Sound Good…

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla explains how their New Partnerships with Gene Editing Companies will correct genetic mistakes in your DNA

“Through mRNA that will be able to correct this mistake.”

“Creating DNA instead of biological manufacturing. Which means that you have virus to make it, it's a synthetic”

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1821403997976334432

clip at link

[fredsmith11]

"Hello, we're Pfizer and we're here to help you edit your DNA".

:-)