Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 153

[ecosophia]

We are now winding up the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[stubborn_ass]

Useful recap of the dates: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241875

First para:

This virus was newly discovered in January of 2020. FALSE; Judicial watch has now proved that Fauci and the NIH knew that Covid-19 was diagnosed no later than December 2nd 2019 in Wuhan. This was deliberately concealed under confidentiality agreements between China and the NIH. In short Dr. Fauci and the NIH knowingly and repeatedly lied about the time of first discovery and diagnosis and it is documented that this was known in February and early March and not disclosed. We also now know with scientific certainty that the virus was in the US no later than the second week of December of 2019 because antibodies were found in about 1.5% of blood donations from that time. This, along with the sequencing back-computation I performed in early 2020 places the latest the virus entered the US as sometime in October of 2019 and from the blood bank data it is scientifically proved it had infected about 1.5% of the population, or roughly 4 million people in the US, by the second week of December 2019. This in turn means that we had widespread disease which was blamed on something else. Indeed we handled all 4 million of those cases just fine up until the hysteria started, didn't we? You didn't even know those 4 million sick people, and those who died of it, existed prior to the hysteria being ginned up.

[athaia]

Hm. Anecdotal evidence only, but my (vexxed) relatives and colleagues have gotten sick with colds about as often as before the whole covid thing, while I (unvexded) have gotten sick *less* often than before. So personally, I don't experience this ever-increasing wave of sickness (and am very glad about that).

[(Anonymous)]

Week 153. Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

Feeling groovy. Got popcorn.

Cetiosaurus

Re: Population Immunity

[escorcher]

I'm not expert in this area but Rintrah wrote on this very subject back in February.

'Why people are now constantly sick all the time'

https://www.rintrah.nl/why-people-are-now-constantly-sick-all-the-time/

Certainly worth a read and very much along the lines of 'our of balance' innate/adaptive immune systems after mass foxination. As interestingly Rintrah stresses a finely balanced limited resource situation every'body' should be more aware of.

Re: Population Immunity

[escorcher]

By the way this all links into why we are seeing a rise in infections now
...and why GVB is at least partially correct that we have entered a new phase - one that likely will feed into the wider picture of ongoing multiple crises.

And I somewhat understated how insightful that post of Rintrah's was/is. Credit where credit's due.
(And all this before I've had breakfast :-/)

Re: Population Immunity

[(Anonymous)]

I have a friend who did just that – hunkered down in his apartment with his wife and waited the pandemic out with trips to the grocery store for food. Add to that their heaviness, and you have a statistical point towards hiding yourself away.

– Donald Hargraves

[(Anonymous)]

Could you run the hart for the start of The Military World Games in Wuhan, starting October 18, 2019? China has accused The Americans of seeding the event with the Virus, and some people consider it the first superspreader event for COVID.

– Donald Hargraves

Where is the virus steering us?

[(Anonymous)]

The first comment raises a question that I have been chewing in my mind for quite a while - the continuing sickness among all, jabbed or not. My personal experience of needing recovery time, especially after spending time with multiple-jabbed elderly (well past 70) relatives keeps this question alive. I like the hypothesis our thrice-great host proposed, too. But later on in the comments the other side of the question came up in the ponderings about astrological chart for the virus. Because the other side of the question is what change the current reality of living with the virus/viruses/ailments is causing? These are my observations: 1)Social interaction is expensive health-wise. 2)I miss the social interaction very much, so cannot become a hermit. 3)The more uplifting the social interaction is (choir practice, yoga, like-minded people) the less expensive or taxing the after-effects. 4)I have always been somewhat over-sensitive/intuitive but I notice others are showing signs of similar sensitivity. 5)Lots of people are working through heavy personal&ancestral trauma and evaluating their values and life-choices. Hookers and blow is going down, spirituality going up. Sportspeople waving a bible, even in Finland. 6) Friendships are in a tremendous flux. People who I've considered like-minded have become intolerable to me, others more distant have grown closer. I still do not know how the constellations of close friendships are going to change. Of course they are always changing, but we humans like some permanence. This seems not be available now. This is one of the reasons the lighthouse our host is keeping is of such great value. But giving up and letting go has been a big and really difficult lesson for me, and still working on it. So, we have a multitude of developments on different fronts, not only deteriorating health. Oh, a side effect of deteriorating health is 7)Taking the health of the body seriously - starting to direct what one is putting in one's mouth by what the body needs instead of what the mouth wants. Away from the Venusberg of pleasure and addiction.

So, I am being more bold here than I'd really care to be, but this is my hypothesis about the virus and what it is doing: This new current in our reality is tuning us, present-day human beings, to experience reality in a different way than before. We are becoming more attuned (or sensitive) to everything. The food we put in our mouths. The stuff we watch/read. How we resonate with other people. The vibes of harmony and dissonance are becoming tangible, felt experiences. As we attune to these vibes more, they also become ways to orient and steer our lives. And part of this is having our own earlier life-choices and values rubbed onto our faces hard enough that we see how we have failed supporting ourselves and others to be more of our genuine selves. A re-tuning of the musical instrument of human body, to harmonise with a new scale and hopefully learning to play different kind of music.
Kristiina

[(Anonymous)]

With three trines, four sextiles, and no negative aspect worse than a semisquare, this is not the chart for the beginning of a catastrophe. It's so positive that I'm wondering if the Wuhan authorities might have deliberately elected it -- that is, chosen a time to give themselves the best possible outcome.


That begs the question did WHO selected 11 February 2020 to name COVID and 11 March to declare pandemic in an auspicious moment??!

I wonder if the 1 December is mor like the outcome for China....

Re: Population Immunity

[mr_nobody1967]

I can relate to this. After a pretty ordinary cold, which I suppose could have been a Covid-cold, last year, for the first time in my life, I had bronchitis, and it was very severe, very long-lasting bronchitis. A lot of people insisted to me that I had pneumonia, and I think they probably thought that because so many vaccinated people who likely developed the same bronchitis probably had it develop, in turn, into full-on, lung-collapsing pneumonia. As I am unvaccinated, I simply recovered from the bronchitis after four unpleasant months, but it did leave behind a productive cough as a parting gift.

Novak Djokovic

[(Anonymous)]

This man is a legend. Wonder about the psychology of those booing him 4 years after the 'pandemic'. I think they are clearly still rattled by his stance. It might be an unconscious "If I die, then we all must die" mentality.

""You guys can't touch me"

Novak Djokovic in an interview responds to Wimbledon crowd after boos during his match.
In an interview with the BBC in 2022 Novak was asked if was willing to "..forego the chance to be the greatest player that ever picked up the racket, statistically, because you feel so strongly about this Jab..". He answered:

"Yes...because the principles of decision making on my body are more important than any title.."

https://twitter.com/LFJIreland/status/1810655869039702195

[(Anonymous)]

I count that as a "yellow alert" that something's amiss. While it doesn't prove anything in and of itself (statistically, 1 in 365 major events should randomly occur on that date) it is the sort of timing one would aim for if conducting a controlled experiment.

Re: Population Immunity

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, that was educational. It looks like I'm using "sudden death" differently than professionals do. I was thinking of cases where someone looks fine, playing soccer or sitting at his desk, and then suddenly, splat, goes down. If you have severe pneumonia or a ruptured ectopic pregnancy you're liable to have looked sick all day and spend at least a few minutes gasping for breath or screaming in agony - the coworkers or family won't be saying "She looked fine...." But if someone is found dead who died alone without seeking help, I guess they can't know whether he was instantly unconscious, or just didn't call fast enough and was too far gone near the end to crawl to the phone or door.

I agree 5 out of 30 (the German autopsy study) is not a lot, and yet, it was definitive (as have others been, now). People who haven't recently gotten vaxxed have fatal heart attacks, strokes, etc. all the time, so the official claim was that all those deaths were unrelated. The myocarditis was a cause of death that normally would not be expected to be found in such a group of people, and was known to be triggered by the jabs but waved off as "harmless." To prove that not all swans are white (all deaths unrelated) you only have to prove that one swan is black (causality proven).

As for plague, the bubonic version was famously agonizing and people suffered a lot. But it could also focus on the lungs (pneumonic plague) or, less famously, become septicemic. This article:

https://ufhealth.org/conditions-and-treatments/plague

says that the septicemic version "may cause death even before severe symptoms occur", while the pneumonic version "develops rapidly." Perhaps because this artist was drinking, he didn't notice that he was starting to feel ill, or attributed the symptoms to drunkenness?

Cessair

[(Anonymous)]

JMG - I must say, in the decade plus since I've been reading your posts and other works, this might be one of the funniest observations you have ever made (and there are quite a few in that category). As unethical as astrological chart fraud may be, you gotta hand it to the CCP bureaucrats. They know their customers and they know how to cya!

On a related note, I would be very interested in hearing your take on how, comparatively, astrology is handled in the East vs. the West. Your finding here would suggest that people in the East take astrology very seriously on the official level while privately ignoring it while Western society officially ignores astrology in public and obsesses about it in private. There may be more nuance here but from my own Western standpoint it would seem that everyone I've met who publicly dismisses astrology as a quack science is also someone who is deeply invested in it emotionally.

Re: Population Immunity

[(Anonymous)]

☕️🍰☕️🍰☕️🍰

there was an illness in fall 2019

[(Anonymous)]

There was definitely a bad illness going around in fall 2019, probably not what we called COVID, I had it, in November of 2019, I dont remember ever feeling that sick before, flu like, very weak for weeks, over by thanksgiving.

I caught it from my daughter who was at UC Davis at the time, she got sick in October of 2019, her program there had started back up last week or so of September, so alot of young people got back there from all over. She was sick for a few weeks, so thought she wouldnt be contagious when she went to see me, because usually that would not be the case, but she was. She stayed not herself, weak what have you for months after, by spring 2020 developed asthma ( she had never had sign of it before, but genetically she would have that predisposition to have it from me), she went ot urgent care or ER once, then was so bad in class a classmate drove her to ER, couldnt breath, basically supported out of class and into a car. She ended up on daily inhaler for the next couple years. I know they did what they were calling COVID testing on her, PCR, and she did not show it. Later, when the red cross was desperate for blood, and wanted to assure the public on theblood supply, she gave blood where the red cross said they would test the blood for actual COVID ( not the PCR test ) and let donors know if they had ever had it, she says. And they said she was clear of it. So she says whatever she had wasnt COVID. She later got COVID, which was mild for her and her friends, had it twice and then they forced all the college students to vaccinate anyways, or get kicked out, and you can never go back to her program if that happened.

Seems there are two choices. If she is right and what we had wasnt COVID, then there was in addition to COVID another illness that winter that had already been going around that was bad, it was the bad one, not COVID. Recall that when someone went in very sick, that they gave a PCR test, and all that did was show that the person had been exposed to the teeniest bit of COVID DNA, did not test if they had an actual COVID infection.

If what we had was COVID, then that would mean the reason she didnt test positive on the COVID PCR test in spring of 2020 was because she was sick the previous October, so even though she was suffering the after effects and damage caused by it, "long COVID" she hadn't been recently exposed to the DNA in her environment, so didnt test positive on the PCR test. If that is the case, then the claims by red cross that they were testing the blood supply of donors was a lie. As they said they were testing for, I always mix up the Igg whateve, you know they markers in blood that you have had a certain infection. A real test, not PCR.

Atmospheric RIver

[(Anonymous)]

regarding the astrology for covid etc, i have always found it interesting that 2020 was the year of the metal rat as well.

https://www.travelchinaguide.com/intro/2020-chinese-zodiac-rat-year.htm

Lung is the metal organ (and also large intestine)

https://guidedbyelements.com/about-the-five-elements/general/what-is-the-metal-element/


and wouldnt rat, not necessarily in the chinese system, represent plague/disease as well..?

the last was just where it led me, thinking about what might be the characteristics of rat..

if it were planned.. i could see them picking the right date/element etc..
just saying.

Re: Population Immunity

[(Anonymous)]

A chronic PRODUCTIVE cough? Has a doctor explained why you have that productive cough and cleared you? Otherwise, you have not "recovered" from bronchitis. That's evidence of an ongoing inflammatory or infectious process in your lungs until shown otherwise. I know a lot of people avoid doctors like the plaque (especially since as group they swallowed the covid shot Kool-aid), but you don't want to whistle in the dark on this. Lung function is immediately life-critical after all.

--Lunar Apprentice

Re: Population Immunity

[(Anonymous)]

Exponential initially looks linear - until it doesn't.

Re: Towards justice for the mandates

[(Anonymous)]

The case brought by an employee who lost her job over a mandate that was settled for USD 700,000-- an interesting post about that:

$700,000 Awarded to Healthy American Client in Religious Discrimination Lawsuit!
Blue Cross is (rightly) being punished for its blatant wrongful termination of longtime employee who objected to becoming a human pin cushion 👍
Peggy Hall, Jul 10, 2024

I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!

This is the story of a Healthy American from TN, Tanja Benton, who stood up against her employer, Blue Cross, who had an ILLEGAL REQUIREMENT in place for her to become a human pin cushion.

Tanja came to us and enrolled as a concierge client in 2021 to learn about the federal and state laws that protect her right to religious expression at the workplace (I refer to it as the wokeplace).

READ MORE https://peggyhall.substack.com/p/healthy-american-client-wins-700k

[ecosophia]

I'm approaching it as a mundane astrologer, not a natal astrologer. Mundane charts don't belong to anybody -- they relate to a place, a society, or a phenomenon in terms of their broad human impact. From a mundane standpoint, trines and sextiles mean good times and squares and oppositions mean hard times for most people in the affected community.

[ecosophia]

If you can get me a start time, sure.

[ecosophia]

The problem is, from an astrologer's standpoint, that none of this gives me a place, date, and time for a chart. If you have any suggestions for this, I'm all ears.

[ecosophia]

Do you have times and places for either of these events? If so, I can see if they look elected.

[ecosophia]

I don't have enough of a background in Asian astrological cultures to respond to that. Since I lack the necessary languages, getting a nuanced view of that won't be easy, either!