Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 145
May. 14th, 2024 11:02 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Dr. Patricia Lee and Dr. Brian Lenzkes
Date: 2024-05-19 08:21 pm (UTC)You are finding many gems in relation to THIS time. What I am finding, by taking a look at earlier time periods, in the original sources, is that there have always been "people (scientists, citizens, the injured, the bereaved, and so many front line medical personnel)" who have spoken out.
For example, this, from 1935:
"The two books on Leicester's experience with smallpox and vaccination, like Creighton's and Crookshank's works and all the other anti-vaccination literature of the last century, are conspicuously absent from medical library shelves in the United States; and those who direct the destinies of public libraries—maintained at public expense— see to it that the public shall get but one side of the vaccination question by very carefully excluding from their Reference catalogues, even so notable a work as Alfred Russel Wallace's Wonderful Century.
"Hence it may be that the average American doctor never heard of the Royal Commission on Vaccination, and doesn't even know that such a body of medical big-wigs ever sat for seven years in England, compiling all those bulky reports for the enlightenment of every one except themselves! This is unfortunate for American doctors in some ways; for it should be highly gratifying to some of them to learn that 14 lbs. avoirdupois of contrary evidence hurled at the heads of the pro-vaccinist majority on that Commission failed to make a dent in their triple-plate conviction that in spite of everything vaccination does prevent smallpox!"
pg 38, "Medical Voodoo" (1935), by Anne Riley Hale - https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-medical-voodoo-hale-1935/The_Medical_Voodoo_Hale_1935.pdf
PS - note that her "literature of the last century" was literature from the 1800's!
There is nothing new under the sun!
Re: Dr. Patricia Lee and Dr. Brian Lenzkes
Date: 2024-05-20 07:55 am (UTC)Re: Dr. Patricia Lee and Dr. Brian Lenzkes
Date: 2024-05-20 04:26 pm (UTC)Ron M
Re: Dr. Patricia Lee and Dr. Brian Lenzkes
Date: 2024-05-20 07:10 pm (UTC)Here is another interesting passage from this same book, linked in my comment above, from 1935 (opening of Chapter Two, page 7 (book), page 14 (pdf):
"The subcutaneous injection of protein matter and animal disease-cultures as a means of warding off hypothetical maladies—something which might attack you in the future— is called in modern medical nomenclature "preventive medicine." It marks the departure from the charms and incantations of the ancient healing rites to the modern voodooism instituted by Jenner and Pasteur.
"The old-fashioned doctor with his pills and potions was trying—however misguidedly—to make the sick well. The new dispensers of "immunizing" vaccines and serums are bending their energies to the reverse objective of making the well sick."
She herself is rather modern, and materialist, in her outlook, but she is doing an excellent job of demonstrating that the practice of vaccination has partaken of precious little of evidence-gathering, or scientific reasoning, along its road to becoming the central plank of "public health".