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baffledWe are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-03 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My take also.

And by the way-- I will say, though, that the first time I watched an AI video (witout knowing that it was an AI video) my strong impression was that the speaker was channeling an entity because it looked like a normal person, it sounded like a normal voice, but I perceived very clearly that there was something nonhuman about it. Then I found out that it was AI generated. I did not perceive an actual entity, however. If that makes sense.

Self-described Psychic Medium

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-04 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have thought for some time, without a shred of evidence, that all the 'nutso' stuff going on (it's quite a list of destructive activity) could be designed by an AI program assigned outcomes by a human (or 'infused' human) to accomplish specific goals.

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-04 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've wondered for a while if the weird covid madness is because the military trained an AI on the goal of minimize Covid infections until a vaccine could be deployed, and got a "paperclip maximizer"; an AI pursuing the intended goal well past what anyone intended, without any regard for the other consequences. The name came from a thought experiment where an AI was given the goal of maximize paperclip production for a company; and given that goal, if it had the means to destroy the world and continue making paperclips, it would, because the world is made of atoms it can turn into paperclips.

The panic? It certainly got people to reduce social contact; it likely played a major role in reducing infections of all respiratory viruses.

The refusal of all early treatment? This kept people out of hospitals, where people vulnerable to the virus could be found.

The decimation of the elderly through a lack of medical care and social isolation? This kept them from getting infected.

The fact that the approved treatments once people were hospitalized were pretty much all horribly lethal? It allowed for the quick removal of the infect from the hospital before the infection could spread.

I could go on; but the point is that it looks to me a lot like the insanity from 2020 is exactly what I'd expect if a paperclip maximizer was turned on. Ignoring the hype, it would actually be fairly limited; but it would have immense abilities to manipulate some people, at least some of the time, because the tech companies have already worked out how to do this.

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-05 01:27 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's an interesting idea (!) and sounds like it could be an excellent movie script.
Entirely possible. I do wonder though about the 'good intentions' you assign.
Maybe I'm just cynical.

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-04 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I’m encouraged by your observation, Self-described Psychic Medium, that the AI seemed to lack a soul. Let’s hope it stays that way! The one thing that I have noticed, which interests me from an occult perspective, is that every AI video has loads of flaws which are mostly visible when slowed down frame-by-frame (though I can catch some right off the bat, like Kate’s recent ‘cancer confession video’). Yes, much of these errors/glitches can be attributed to the fact that AI is still learning how to make convincing videos… but there is something else – as if the AI simply does not understand the delightful idiosyncrasies that make each of us ‘human’. It reminds me of John Keel’s observations that any time the creepy ‘men in black’ show up, just like the manifestations associated with fairies back in the day, there’s always some small detail that is ‘off’ which the detached observer can spot. Given how deep Keel went down the UFO/fae/occult/demonology rabbit hole, I’ll take his word for it!

Ron M

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-04 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can you say more about the Princess Kate video? I've not gone down that fox/badger/rabbit hole and don't know what people on this forum might make of the theories.

JH

Re: When the going gets weird

Date: 2024-04-04 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'll say something more about the Princess Kate video. It's clear to me that it is AI. One of the many "tells" is that the way she pauses and looks down is so stiff, sort of robotic. Also, the lighting is very weird. The shadow her back casts on the bench actually shows the stripes on her shirt. But I imagine that sort of thing will improve in time-- or perhaps very quickly. Mostly, however, the "tell" for me was that, to me, it felt soulless.

In recent days it has often come into my mind how eerie, how very disturbing it is that a such a person, so important for so many people in Great Britain, would be presented to them under false pretenses.

I had an interesting conversation with a publisher recently; he was telling me that now the AI audbook readers are now so good that, in a formal test, people could not tell the difference between a human and AI. I have not listened to an AI reading a book myself, however, so I could not say if that difference would be apparent to me or not. But for now, with video, it seems I can tell.

I can sometimes also sense the AI energies behind a comment-- I haven't had feedback to confirm this, however. To me some simply feels just alien, cold, metallic.

To the topic of this forum: I'm seeing scatterings of such comments that I suspect are AI on blogs and substacks. But not so many as I had expected.

Self-described Psychic Medium
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