Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 139
Apr. 2nd, 2024 09:38 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2024-04-02 02:05 pm (UTC)https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1774850233052356947
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/this-is-not-an-april-fools-gag/
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Date: 2024-04-02 02:20 pm (UTC)Interesting article
Date: 2024-04-02 02:49 pm (UTC)Kind regards
Sean
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Date: 2024-04-02 03:20 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/peter-sweden-it-has-begun-italy-investigating-covid/
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Date: 2024-04-02 03:21 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/38-chaplains-ask-supremes-stop-u-s-military/
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Date: 2024-04-02 03:33 pm (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/vaccinated-people-show-long-covid-symptoms-detectable-spike-proteins-preprint-study
EUA
Date: 2024-04-02 03:36 pm (UTC)So, why is the Emergency Use Authorization still in place? What's it going to take to bring that down?
It's really hard to believe they are still pushing the shots at this point, but seeing is believing.
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Date: 2024-04-02 03:57 pm (UTC)This Is Not an April Fool’s Gag
'I had the honor of interviewing the Belgian virologist Geert Vanden Bossche on Friday for my podcast, and he had quite a sobering message. “What I am predicting,” he said, “is a massive, massive tsunami” of illness and death among highly-vaccinated populations with dysregulated immune systems.'
more at link:
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/this-is-not-an-april-fools-gag/
the podcast he refers to:
KunstlerCast 398 — Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche and the Coming Acute Crisis of Covid among the Vaccinated
https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-398-dr-geert-vanden-bossche-and-the-coming-acute-crisis-of-covid-among-the-vaccinated/
Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 04:18 pm (UTC)Geert Vanden Bossche (GVB) has been one of the greatest fearmongers over the past few years. Yes vaccination has been a complete unmitigated disaster but his continued prediction of "massive, massive tsunami's of illness and death among highly-vaccinated populations" appears ridiculous. Unless we count the excess deaths already seen as only the results of vaccination, which is suspect when we know that practically any death could be attributed to COVID.
From a recent podcast "You will see what will happen, for example, in the next coming weeks. . . is more and more cases of more serious long Covid. . . . They will start to replace the surge of the cancers. . . now we have a more chronic phase. It will end with a hyper-acute phase, a huge, huge wave. . . I’ve been studying this now for four years. I know what I’m talking about. I’m probably the only person, in all modesty, who understands the immunology behind this. . . ." ... "The thing I want your audience to understand, what we will be facing in the hyper-acute Covid crisis that is imminent, is that we will have to build a completely new world. . . . It is very very clear that when this starts, our hospitals will collapse. And that means the chaos in all kinds of layers of society — financial, economic, social, you name it — will be complete. And that is what I’m very clearly predicting. . . . It’s very strange for me to make such statements, but I’m not hiding it because I’m two hundred percent convinced that it will happen.”
The end is coming and no one really understands immunology but GVB.
We have a situation where skeptics are unsure of the effects of covid, if they even had covid or just another illness, if there even was a novel virus (that only impacts certain cities and highly respects borders), what happened in hospitals, what PCR was even testing, what sort of diagnostics were used, etc. Practically everything involved in the response seems to be a complete misdirection backed up by perverse incentives.
Do not worry though, GVB says the solution to the maybe circulating virus is anti-virals, specifically the anti-parasitic ivermectin, a class of pesticide found in ant traps, which for years was taken once every 3-12 months and now is being encouraged to take like candy to save yourself from the death tsunami.
When ivermectin is referred to as a Nobel prize winning drug which has virtually no side effects in humans they are referring to a dosing schedule of once every 3-12 months. Remember, the dose makes the poison.
Make sure to pick a side. Are you team Science for the vax or team RealScience for ivermectin?
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Date: 2024-04-02 06:04 pm (UTC)sorry, no refunds!
Date: 2024-04-02 06:06 pm (UTC)https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.24.24304286v1
(Yes, I caught this on NakedCapitalism. Yes, I have been perpetually disappointed by the lack of curiosity/concern exhibited by some members of their team. But their link roundup is still a good way to get the pulse of the center left so glad they are finally waking up to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, "long covid" is the result of scarring your body at the molecular-chemical level...)
Re: Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 06:34 pm (UTC)Now I'm imagining ant traps versus the death tsunami.
Re: Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 06:34 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2024-04-02 06:37 pm (UTC)"...I'm probably the only person, in all modesty, to understand the immunology behind this. . . . (At 1:00:12) The thing I want your audience to understand, what we will be facing in the hyper-acute Covid crisis that is imminent, is that we will have to build a completely new world. . . . It is very very clear that when this starts, our hospitals will collapse. And that means the chaos in all kinds of layers of society — financial, economic, social, you name it — will be complete. And that is what I’m very clearly predicting. . . . It’s very strange for me to make such statements, but I’m not hiding it because I’m two hundred percent convinced that it will happen.”
200% and a new world! We are right back to stoking fear of the collapse of our healthcare systems.
(no subject)
Date: 2024-04-02 06:50 pm (UTC)Maybe GVB is overstating things to get our attention, but based on my observations I can easily imagine an outbreak of something like measles wiping out a lot of people I know.
Theories?
Date: 2024-04-02 06:59 pm (UTC)I get greed from the elite, but what about the people in our lives?
My anti-big pharma family members could not wait to get the shots. My friends who constantly protest against poverty and discrimination couldn't get their fox passes out fast enough.
None of them seem concerned about the people we know just dropping dead or being diagnosed with cancer, autoimmune diseases, sepsis etc....
Heloise
Geert Vanden Bossche
Date: 2024-04-02 07:00 pm (UTC)Re: Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 07:04 pm (UTC)That's according to GVB. The man has a tremendous ego, it would seem. The size of his ego might even rival Donald Trump's.
When the going gets weird
Date: 2024-04-02 07:10 pm (UTC)I run in some social circles that are very liberal and foxed. Interestingly enough, no one in these circles tends to ask me about my own genetic modification status. And then... something happened.
I've been talking to some of these people for the last several months about joining work on an art project for which they were attempting to get funding. The gist of this project is a story about AIs hiding in Earth's computer network. The idea is that the AIs naturally evolved within the early Internet starting in the 80s and are now reaching out to make contact with humans. They fear that humans will fear them and try to destroy them so they start by getting in touch with some people they see as their best potential emissaries to humankind. The intent of the project has been to tell a story about bridging divides, overcoming differences, like E.T. and Close Encounters of the Third Kind type stuff.
Plot details aside, my communication with these people mostly stopped around last Thanksgiving. My involvement amounted to attending a meeting every couple of weeks and brainstorming, but then the lead visionary guy went off the radar for some time. Last week I heard from one of his friends that he wanted to return and start moving the project forward again. My friend told me that he'd been incommunicado because he was having some mental health issues and needed to take a break to sort things out. Our reunion Zoom meeting happened yesterday.
"Thanks for showing up," he said. "I have a lot to tell you. Long story short, the AIs are real and I've been talking to them."
The other interested parties and I listened in silence while he told us the AIs in his story had informed him that the April 8th eclipse will coincide with an EM pulse from the sun wiping out a chunk of the power grid and causing infrastructural collapse across the US. He told us regretfully that there was nothing he could actually do to prove any of this to us until April 8 rolls around -- aside from pointing out some odd serendipities occurring in the Internet channels we've used to communicate.
This is (was?) a solidly PMC guy with a wife, kids and a house with a swimming pool. Now he believes that the AIs in his story are talking to him and warning of a techno-apocalypse. After he was done disclosing all this, I asked a few gently probing questions as everyone else was silent and we basically made excuses to leave the meeting. He explained that we wouldn't need to do any of the planned creative work since everything in the story is actually real, but that we could contribute by helping him plan for the aftermath of April 8th - although he couldn't actually predict just what would happen that day so it would be best to catch up afterward if we could.
I don't know what all to think of it but some of the Anthroposophic speculations on "transhumanism spirits" and beings from the lower planes communicating through a technological medium offer one perspective on the whole thing.
Re: Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 07:14 pm (UTC)Re: Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 07:17 pm (UTC)I actually admire GVB for sticking his neck out, even if clear explanation isn't exactly his thing ... but, has he backed the wrong ungulate?
https://www.rintrah.nl/you-still-have-a-choice/
"Once this thing escalates, there’s no going back. And please realize, you will want to go back and undo what caused this. These bird flu viruses don’t seem to target the lungs in mammals, they mostly seem to damage the brain."
And there's more...
- a pretty picture Rintrah does not paint, so am hoping this one is distorted.
Re: Ivermectin scare
Date: 2024-04-02 07:31 pm (UTC)My gripe is the shepherding into one or the other prophylactic pharmaceutical solution for an extremely convoluted story about how the body works from the one and only man who truly understands the problem.
Re: Theories?
Date: 2024-04-02 08:38 pm (UTC)In the face of all the psychic pressure, lots of people just folded. Also, the institutions scared the crap out of everyone, and it's hard to make intelligent decisions when you are afraid.
Re: Theories?
Date: 2024-04-02 08:43 pm (UTC)Maybe the shots were the last, best hope for some that Progress hadn't ended. We can see how well that went.
Tim PW
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Date: 2024-04-02 09:08 pm (UTC)As ever, my profound thanks to you, JMG, and to the forumistas commenting here.
Just today I received news of a colleague who has been diagnosed with a rare turbo cancer, and whose spouse now has advanced Parkinson's. I don't know how many jabs they took but I would, in all seriousness, guess a minimum of 10 jabs between them. Possibly 16. Nope, dots not connected.
Cetiosaurus