Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 132

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe a lot of our immune strategies rely on herd immunity or at least a mosaic of immune responses like influenza. Maybe being around large numbers of immunocompromised people who are constantly getting sick will eventually wear down even a good immune stem?

Also A Midwestern Doctor did a recent essay series which made a good case that shedding is a thing based on a litany of pretty compelling anecdotes and informal surveys. It seems to lead to a spectrum of response in the unjabbed. Maybe even if you don't have immediate symptoms, the constant spike deluge for highly exposed people imposes an immune system load that makes them more vulnerable to other things.

[boccaccio]

I do believe shedding is real, but some people are much more affected by it then others. I read the 7-part series from Pier Kory. He published a very detailed letter from an Australian woman who is exceptionally sensitive to shedding. It had the ring of truth. Unfortunately she was adamant that *all* people keep shedding even if they had had their last jab two years ago. This is of course very concerning.

I did some digging to find out which jabs Australia used. This info is surprisingly hard to come by, but my educated guess is that about 75% of the jabs in Australia were mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna), ca 25% was viral vector (AZ) and maybe 1% subunit (Novovax). If the lady is right, it's not just the mRNA enriched but also the adenovirus enriched people who keep shedding. It's a bit too much for me to contemplate the impact on the vax victims of continual shedding.

Thanks for mentioning Midwestern Doctor. Her piece on shedding is on my reading list.

[boccaccio]

PS On a more positive note: the former US army medic who sent out a large inquiry about the white bloodclots reported that most embalmers saw a decrease in the white bloodclots. In 2021 they saw them in 30% of the bodies and in 2022 in 20%. The white bloodclots are related to damage done by the spike protein so the decrease is positive in the sense that perhaps the presence of spike is slowly declining.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm quite sensitive to shedding; but only from people who got the mRNA vaccine. I know it's a sample n=1, but for me it makes a huge difference.

[boccaccio]

Thanks for your input. I have no idea about the mechanism that causes shedding, but *if* both mRNA and adenovirus would lead to shedding, I would expect it to be worse with mRNA.

Do you get negative effects from from all people that had mRNA jabs or only some of them? (I'm asking because I'm intrigued by the different batches and the claim by some that about a third of the batches was only inactive sludge)