Magic Monday
Oct. 22nd, 2023 10:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

The image? I field a lot of questions about my books on magic these days, so I've decided to do little capsule summaries of them here, one per week. The book on the left is the current edition of my first published book, Paths of Wisdom., which originally saw print in 1996. It's an instructional manual of the Cabala, one of the core philosophical systems of the Western occult tradition, in the form that I first learned -- the version taught and practiced in the Golden Dawn tradition. I intended it to be for beginners, but in those days I had somewhat expansive ideas of what beginners in magic could handle! Now I'd recommend starting with a simpler book such as my Learning Ritual Magic before going on to this one. (If you're interested, you can get a copy here if you live in the US and here if you're anywhere else.)
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Date: 2023-10-23 04:24 am (UTC)I hope everyone is well and healthy!
Today I'm looking for information about two angels: Sandalphon and Metraton.
Any recommendations on books and articles that address these angels? I've already read the works of Damien Echols and Frater Ashen Chassan, but I'm looking for something about etymology, association with sacred books, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Date: 2023-10-23 04:57 am (UTC)Cosmic Oom really did me right this time.
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Date: 2023-10-23 05:13 am (UTC)Weather forcast
Date: 2023-10-23 05:11 am (UTC)I would be interested to hear how the astral weather or other subtle conditions are holding these days?
I have noticed sharpening moods and interestingly incresed workloads. Makework approksimatly 25-33% increse in the last 6 months for no apperent reason, but persistant and observable in multiple cases. It is a pattern and gut feeling tells me something is driving it.
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Date: 2023-10-23 05:17 am (UTC)I also have had the experience of getting completely distracted, for example, if I thought about a Kazakh restaurant, then thinking about Kazakh food and the steppes, and realizing that I wasn't focusing on the second hand at a certain point.
If I am maintaining my focus and don't lose track of the second hand, as what I wrote in the first paragraph, am I doing it right? Or should I try to become so deeply concentrated that no thoughts besides focusing on the second hand arise at all?
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Date: 2023-10-23 05:46 am (UTC)In my system (Gurdjieffian) the astral body gradually decomposes after death. It’s unspecified how long that takes. In that system, there is no expectation of a rebirth on the Earth.
My current hope or belief is that my astral body will eventually be of such quality that it will not decompose, at least not initially after death. I am hoping that life in the Astral World is a possibility.
I read a book by Papus, where he states, as well, that the astral body decomposes after death. And I believe the Hindus believe the same.
I gather from the Occult Philosophy Workbook that your system indicates the astral body is reincarnated from life to life.
Are you aware of any occultists that strive for a life after death in the Astral World?
Thank You!
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Date: 2023-10-23 06:36 pm (UTC)Human souls reincarnate on the material plane, but they don't do so indefinitely. No, the astral body doesn't remain from life to life; the dying process involves shedding the material body first, then the etheric body, and then the astral body, in each case absorbing the experiences of each body into the soul. Then the soul descends through the planes, picking up a new astral, etheric, and material body for its next incarnation.
Once a soul succeeds in transforming its mental sheath to a mental body, however, it no longer incarnates on the material plane; furthermore, since the mental body is the first of the permanent bodies for our swarm of souls, once the mental body is formed, that's the end of death and rebirth for that soul. Once that's happened, the etheric body becomes the densest body the soul has, and it also has an astral body and a mental body. So it mostly experiences the etheric plane, just as you and I mostly experience the material plane, but the astral and mental planes can also be experienced.
So if you want to rise out of the cycle of death and rebirth, any system of sustained spiritual practice will do that -- that's what they're for. That won't get you to a life spent primarily on the astral, however. To do that will take long ages of further development, until you can form a spiritual sheath and then a spiritual body; at that point you no longer have an etheric body, your astral body is the densest body you have, and the astral plane is the one you primarily experience. (Rinse and repeat, and eventually you form a causal body, and your three bodies are mental, spiritual, and causal, surrounding the divine spark at the core of yourself -- but that's a very, very long ways from now for all of us, and we can't even imagine what that would be like.
Have I confused you thoroughly yet? ;-)
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Date: 2023-10-23 07:41 am (UTC)I am a practicing Christian but do really enjoy reading your blog and simply learning about magical theory. My question is about what the various levels or “ontology” of reality is from an occult perspective.
Something I find intriguing about Christianity is the fact that this topic is not expanded on much at all, despite all of the systematic theology the church has written on all sorts of various topics. You have the physical plane of existence, a couple spiritual planes (heaven/hell), some hints at a mental or mind plane, and that’s pretty much it. Nothing in between those are ever mentioned, yet it seems apparent to me that more exist.
But for magical systems there are obviously many more, and so I was wondering if you could expound on what all the various “planes” are, like astral or etheric because it’s all jumbled in my head! Thanks!
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Date: 2023-10-23 04:51 pm (UTC)You might consider looking into the writers of the Philokalia in the Orthodox tradition. They spell out quite explicitly the various aspects (the Nous/intellect, the passions, etc.), and these roughly correspond with Neoplatonic thinking on the matter (the latter of which is foundational for much of Western magical thinking, as I understand it).
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Date: 2023-10-23 07:57 am (UTC)To share, a list of abbreviations used on Ecosophia.
Can confirm that, Paths of Wisdom is way over the top. The Druid Path was at the right level for me :)
Looking forward to the next book description!
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Date: 2023-10-23 08:00 am (UTC)I have read some of your blog posts about Donald Trump using magic to put a hold on his opponents' thinking. I have heard an interview with Mattias Desmet where he talks about mass formation. It was interesting that he talked about phenomena that academics can't explain using rational, scientific methods at the end of the interview. Do you think that you and Desmet are looking at the same thing from different perspectives, or is the linkage weak—or nonexistent?
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Date: 2023-10-23 09:31 am (UTC)You once stated somewhere that Lucifer and Satan has been mixed up.
What are the differences between these beings and are there more evil beings with different qualities?
Thanks for all of your work!
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Date: 2023-10-23 09:59 am (UTC)Some divinations, with Kimberley's help, have led me to believe that I may have offended Venus. Ouch. I have been working to mend my relationship with her - the process is slow, but thankfully she has been forthcoming with suggestions and guidance on how to do this.
My question is this: in the meantime, is there anything can I do *magically* to increase my attractiveness to potential partners without potentially offending Venus again?
I am slowly working through the DMH, and I am at the point now where I should really start pushing my practice forward, as I have been resting on daily SoP-meditation-divination for quite some time now. I have considered using a series of SoP workings to enhance my romantic appeal; of course, I will divine and meditate on these workings before taking the step to do so, but given my situation with Venus, I thought I would ask your advice as well.
If this seems like a viable option to proceed with, would it appropriate to consider astrological timing with regards to Venus (planetary day+hour, or indeed auspicious transits) for the workings, bearing in mind my situation?
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Date: 2023-10-23 10:54 am (UTC)I would like to share a – hopefully – inspirational experience and ask a question.
The experience is a self-healing experience. In 2019 I started meditating and have been keeping the practice. This was an unexpected outcomes:
Since childhood I have suffered quite frequent headaches which often develop into migraine. In 2020 I had a headache and was deciding if it was the time to take a painkiller. Coincidentally, it was also the time when I usually meditated. I had an idea: I will try the meditation to heal the headache. I did. The headache ceased almost completely after about 20 minutes of meditation. Over the two years I have had many good results both with headaches and migraines – and the meditations proved even more effective than medication: headaches usually cease in about 10mins, migraines 15-25mins; it takes about 50mins for the medication to take effect-if it does. Over the couple of years my headaches and migraines got less frequent, too. However, if I am too exhausted to focus or be patient, I fail. I am happy about my results and would like to share the “healing” meditation:
1) Find a quiet place and sit in a comfortable position
2) Relax and gently close your eyes.
3) Focus on just being – all of you; which is, pain, but focusing on your pain has a curious effect – there is the pain and there is a distance between your consciousness and the pain. Focusing on the pain enables you to realise you are more than the pain; it lets you gently “touch” the border of the pain, gradually releasing the tight threads which cause the suffering
4) When your consciousness does not try to run away from the ache any more, in case of migraine there are two more things you can focus on: first, your breath. The pain rises or leaves a little while breathing; adjust your breath so it minimizes the pain and then gently go to the pattern 4x4.
A more difficult thing to focus on, which I have not mastered yet, is focusing on the slight movements of your eyes (this also influences the amount of pain). Very slight correcting movements can relieve a lot of pain; but it is very difficult (for me) to focus enough on these, as they are incredibly subtle.
Last Saturday, I tried a similar thing on my hurting knee. It needed much more focus, but to my surprise, it worked. And the effect was long; usually, when this pain wakes me up at night, I am very stiff in the morning and it takes quite a lot of exercise to be able to move freely. That morning, I felt very little pain and stiffness - and the feeling of lightness and flexibility lasted all day.
This is my experience. Now, the question. What is going on from the occult point of view?
Sorry for the length of my text and thank you.
Yours with deep regards,
Markéta
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Date: 2023-10-23 06:13 pm (UTC)A form of building what you are for rather than fighting what you are against:
My son was having troubles with a scary image playing over and over in his head as he was trying to go to sleep. I told him instead of trying to fight it or stop seeing it, replace it - the next time it plays imagine the image getting brighter and brighter until you can't see it anymore, you just see white and imagine what is making the bright light (anything bright looking and feeling, whether it's a star, angel, god, goddess, glowing sword, sparkly winged unicorn.) Then if the scary image comes back call on the brightness again. It has helped me in the past and helped him in that moment.
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Date: 2023-10-23 12:11 pm (UTC)Re: Candles on the alter
Date: 2023-10-23 07:02 pm (UTC)Freudian symbolism may also be involved. I'll let you imagine why women might be more likely to have a single thing sticking up on their altars, while men prefer a pair of things protruding from it... (No, this is not just a joke. It's funny, but it's also true.)
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Date: 2023-10-23 12:15 pm (UTC)I am of the view that questions pertaining to substance addictions would be associated with the 12th house in geomancy charts, as addictions are a chronic health issue and are a form of self-undoing – both of which are associated with the 12th house. Do you agree?
Scarlet Flummoxed Gorgon
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Date: 2023-10-23 07:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-10-23 01:03 pm (UTC)I read a lot about how "the planes are discrete and not continuous".
I feel there is a lot to unpack in that short sentence.
Could you gave a short summary and/or where i can find more info on it ?
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Date: 2023-10-23 07:08 pm (UTC)To give you a push in the right direction, think of the planes of being you experience, and how you can affect them. You can't daydream your way through a brick wall -- daydreams belong to the astral plane, while the brick wall is on the material plane. If you want to get through the wall, you may start by imagining a way through, but then you have to take action on the material plane to put a door there.
In the same way, you can't change a problem with your self-image by doing things on the material plane. If you feel like a failure, it doesn't matter how many signs of material success you heap up around you, you'll still feel like a failure, because those feelings are on the astral plane and the material plane won't affect them. You have to work out the tangled emotions on the astral plane that keep you feeling that way, and then you can release the feeling.
Does that help?
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Date: 2023-10-23 03:07 pm (UTC)He was a General in Britain who was around for the World Wars. I ask because I've picked up some books by him on military strategy and on U. S. Grant. I've found them much better/insightful than I expected, and I can see occult-themes in them.
He also wrote a bit on magic; this non-occultist was just curious if he was as good writing on that as he was on war.
--- Joshua
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Date: 2023-10-23 03:29 pm (UTC)Delighted to report to the MM company that our new History MA in Magic and Occult Science at USC is aleady going gangbusters, with an inaugural cohort of eight amazing grad students, most also practitioners! Our sister program at Exeter has also just launched to much international fanfare (including in the NY Times), and we're now working on securing scholarships for all incoming students there too so we can join forces as of next year (USC's is already fully funded and tuition-free, one of the only such MA degrees in the world, and hence actually ethical). The fact that neither program existed a year ago and now suddenly both do is, well, sheer magic :)
Given our overnight success, however, two of my department colleagues have now made it their mission to cancel me personally and the program generally as a controversial liability, despite the fact that its strong decolonial tenor fits perfectly with our department's well-known strength in the histories of colonialism and slavery. The animus being directed at me by colleagues I considered friends is truly bizarre and heartbreaking, and has already put the program and its students' well-being in jeopardy, precisely as intended. Historians, it goes without saying, tend to be resistant to change, so I expected some pushback, but nothing so violent, personal and blatantly thoughtstopping. Yet the fact is that our graduate program – like the humanities generally – is in serious danger, so I was authorized by the department to try and save it with Magic – and I did! This behavior is therefore not merely irrational but quite literally suicidal.
My geomantic reading on this crisis (Mothers: Puer, Puer, Fortuna Minor, Acquisitio) made it clear that if I stand my ground and refuse to be cowed by threats of cancelation we will eventually prevail through outside help and secure the immediate future of the program as a manifest asset. And indeed, it so happens that major donors are now interested in possibly helping us do just that, which would make both the USC and the Exeter MOS programs impervious to such threats. Nor is this the first time a colleague has tried to cancel me, so I know the drill – thank the gods for tenure :)
To that end, I’d like to submit a prayer request to you and the valiant assembled for the protection of our Magic and Occult Science grad program from these threats and its flourishing going forward, including through donor endowment. Wednesday and Thursday of this week will be critical windows if anyone has a few spare minutes then. My own practice is limited to geomancy, talismanry and a bit of hoodoo, so I’d also be most grateful for any other interventions, prognostications or strategies folks can suggest.
Thanks a million as always for Magic Mondays, and to y’all for the support!
Matt
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Date: 2023-10-23 04:52 pm (UTC)It's worked for road opening, reversing bad situations, and generating fortunate outcomes. In your situation, I would recite it everyday and pray for the outcome I desire that benefits all and harms none. I'd pray this in Jesus' name as per John 15:16. That's the context I am familiar with --- there are also Jewish ways of praying psalms and Muslim ways of praying the Zabur which I am not familiar with. Before Wednesday I would divine on writing a petition paper and putting it into my left shoe. If the divination were favorable I would write the psalm by hand on paper. After I'd copied the psalm, then I'd fold it towards myself and clockwise and repeat until it could be folded no more, focusing on the intent and reciting Psalm 65. Then --- divination dependent, of course --- I would put that in my left shoe, so that every step took me closer to the goal, as per verse 11 of the Psalm. I'd make sure to have that petition in my shoe during those crucial days! In addition, I'd keep on praying that psalm everyday.
After I'd gotten through to the other side, I'd pray Psalm 150 in thanksgiving. After that it might be a good idea to consider giving $65 to a local food bank in Jesus' name --- or the name of the divinity prayed too specifically and personally --- in thanks for the outcome.
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2023-10-24 02:59 am (UTC) - ExpandEthical love spells II
Date: 2023-10-23 04:13 pm (UTC)Last week you suggested a love spell involving the symbolism of Netzach to make oneself more lovable. You also mentioned that the work would bring up all of one's "unlovable" traits as a consequence of the work.
Well, you were right, very soon after I started the prep work I was faced with a host of traits that felt distinctly unlovable and I began to doubt whether I even knew what it meant to be truly lovable.
Do I need to have a strong image and feeling of being lovable before I construct the Venus/Netzach talisman I had planned or us it sufficient to ask for the quality to be imbued in the talisman - in other words, do I trust the Angel and Intelligence to understand the words even if I don't necessarily connect to the meaning on a visceral level? Or is it better to try to desk with the unlovable traits before beginning the work?
Also, how would one go about doing this work from a Hoodoo perspective? Would a honey jar with love herbs and ones own personal concerns work? I have a non-GD friend who would like to do the sane work but follows a less ceremonial path.
Thanks as always and gods bless,
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Date: 2023-10-23 07:33 pm (UTC)Thus you don't need to have a strong image, or any image at all. That's exactly why you need the talisman -- it becomes the anchor for the thing you can't yet formulate in any nonsymbolic form, and brings it into manifestation in your life. You're invoking the angel and the intelligence precisely because they understand things you can't yet consciously formulate.
For your friend, I'd suggest writing out a petition paper crosswise, with the friend's name seven times going one way and the words "I become lovable" seven times across the name. The paper should be torn, not cut, and folded up with personal concerns in it, then placed under a candlestick. Then burn a green candle every Friday in that candlestick, saying a prayer to Venus asking for help becoming more lovable. This should be done for at least seven Fridays in a row.
Ecosophia Prayer List
Date: 2023-10-23 04:28 pm (UTC)Here is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. A printable version of the entire prayer list current as of 10/24 may be downloaded here. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.
If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.
(Also, if you think you might be interested in having anyone pray in support of your own self-improvement, please have a look at the Ecosophia Prayer List Autumn Special.)
This week I would like to bring special attention to these prayer requests from the list.
Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are now to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.
If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
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Date: 2023-10-23 04:35 pm (UTC)In case you need a little amusement today my son posted the
following very short story on his blog this past weekend.
http://flyingtotems.blogspot.com/2023/10/a-tale.html
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Date: 2023-10-23 04:50 pm (UTC)In contrast, Israel’s main phrase is “Never again,” which is a negative and which focuses on the past. Comparatively weak.
I’ve been astonished at how little emotional resonance the initial massacres of Israelis (especially kids and women tortured—there are extremely graphic videos, imagery, and testimonials out there) has had compared to the Palestinian casualties (which are horrific as well but don’t involve sexual crimes, mutilation, etc.)
Thoughts?
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Date: 2023-10-23 06:57 pm (UTC)A positive slogan would instead focus on, say, the idea of a homeland. I don't have a catchy one to offer as an example, though.
(For what it's worth, the Israeli one, while negative, feels extremely "crisp" to me, if that makes any sense)
Dijon Harebrained Moth
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Date: 2023-10-23 05:25 pm (UTC)I still feel grief at cultural tolerance for sleaziness, particularly when it results in losses of life for comfort, convenience, and profit and is supported by a system of morality that finds ways to justify that sleaziness. Yet, I now understand that my grief is not unique to my location or time; it likely existed in many other times and places, and is likely a reason why mystics and others who are spiritual aligned and ecologically-minded seem to reside at the physical and metaphorical edges of their societies. I interact with hundreds of people a day and am embedded in the society, so I'm having to find other coping mechanisms than retreat. Ironically, this includes connection with the Gods whom I was originally blaming; and blessing walks in which, ironically, I'm offering blessing to the members of society I am frustrated with. (It's amazing how the blessing walk reveals my own biases.) Thank you for the suggestion to reexamine.
A practical question: I'm still on break from the LRP in discernment on my reactions to it. I am realizing that converse to the strange reactions I had to the LRP, the period of Celtic Golden Dawn work was marked by increased wellness, focus, and drive in my daily life. I strongly resonated with the Rite of Rays. Do you believe the Rite of Rays from the CGD is appropriate as an opening for the SOP? In my analysis, the place it differs from other openings is that all energies come down from above. I've experimented with adapting it where:
-the initial visual and calling Mae is as normal, as is the first ray (alawn) coming down;
-then, on naming the second ray (plennydd), I see it come down my arm and create a polarity that inverts the first ray to come up from the earth;
-then, the third ray (gwron) comes down my arm and connects to the second ray and so becomes the receiving current of polarity which allows the first ray to be re-revealed as the virtuous middle. So the final image is of three rays the outer two creating a circle of energy going into and back out of the heart of the Earth, and the middle is a pillar of light from above (in total it appears like the power-on symbol you see on electronics.)
This is significantly different from SOP formulations in your DMH and WotGS books, yet I wonder if it contains the requisite elements.
Quick check: is it just me (entirely likely) or is anyone else having muddier and less consistent results from divination of late?
Thank you as always for this space and your counsel. May you and yours be blessed.
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Date: 2023-10-23 07:52 pm (UTC)1) You can certainly use the Rite of the Rays, modified or unmodified, to open the SoP. John Gilbert used to use the classic Cabalistic Cross to open the SoP, and it's a similar all-from-above working.
2) It's not just you. I've had to go back to geomancy, the clearest and most reliable divinatory method I know, to get good readings.
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Date: 2023-10-23 05:34 pm (UTC)(Part of the confusion was due to the standard mid-century Christian moral code, which for a child amounted to an all-inclusive, largely abstract "don"t." (i.e. "be unselfish.") I remember - after 3/4 of a century - the one vividly concrete one, when out of idle tension, I picked the bard off a young sapling, and feeling very bad about it when my father told me I'd killed the baby tree. You can bet I never did that again! In fact, my memory bank - and a pocket notebook - has a collection of concrete lessons from other sources, including "If you take a living being into your house, you're obliged to look after it the rest of its life." Wicca's "An it harm none, do as ye will," was a lot more to the point. Okay, back to brass tacks...)
Plum Ludicrous Pufferfish - and what a fitting name the Cosmic Oom turned up!
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Date: 2023-10-23 05:41 pm (UTC)I've been meditating, using a soft white mag-lite for a focus, but it's not the same. And suggestions?
Plum Ludicrous Pufferfish.
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