Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 115

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Here here, JMG. I used to work in an institutional kitchen with a guy who had emigrated to the US from eastern Europe, and during cold and flu season he never got sick. His trick, which he said was common in his home country, was to peel a clove of fresh garlic in the morning after his shower, cut the garlic clove in half, and rub one half thoroughly on the instep of each foot, right below the ball of the foot. Garlic, of course, is full of allicin.

(Full disclosure: I never tried his remedy, since I had one of my own that worked quite well, but I don't doubt for a moment that it worked.)

[(Anonymous)]

Had a landlady once whose mother sent her from Poland on a ship for the new country. She said she had a loaf of dark bread and a clove of garlic.

[(Anonymous)]

FYI A video about removing a wart from a finger using garlic, very long and kinda strange (includes chickens and some unrelated video game footage). Seems that the garlic treatment worked because of the allicin. Of note, he kept his finger cold during treatment because he said that the allicin breaks down at the tempertaure of the human body. (Basically, he cooled down his finger on a cold pack, rubbed bruised garlic on it, then duct-taped the garlic to the wart and held his finger to the cold pack. Following this treatment, some days later, the wart died.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5aJUlmWxUQ

How is this related to this covid discussion forum? Well, as the guy says in his video, sometimes the most effective anti-viral (or whatever) treatments are not studied nor promoted because they don't make anyone money. And I would add, they're not high-statusy glamorous to be yammering on about, either.

PS My chicken soup recipe includes a clove of garlic.

CHICKEN SOUP FLOGGER

[(Anonymous)]

"sometimes the most effective anti-viral (or whatever) treatments are not studied nor promoted because they don't make anyone money."

!!!

Yesterday, I burned my fingertip on the stovetop-- blistered almost immediately, and all I could think was "oh, no, this is going to hurt for a week!" Broke an inch off my aloe plant and stuck the finger in it as quick as I could (they are a bit sleeve-like), and just held it that way a few minutes, then pulled loose a piece of the leaf and bandaged it onto the fingertip for a few hours. It is still blistered of course, but at no point since has it been painful-- I am still typing just fine.

[(Anonymous)]

the suspense is killing me! what's the other remedy that you know?

[weilong]

Can I just eat the garlic?
Or pehaps this will be the excuse for my already engrained habit of eating kimchi for breakfast.

[sinners4diseasecontrol]

What I do, and what worked for my husband when he had pneumonia from what we think was the corona virus, is peel a clove of garlic and keep it nearby all day, biting off tiny bits and chewing on them slowly.

Placing tiny bits of fresh garlic on warts has gotten rid of every last one I ever had. The most effective use of garlic, I've read, is to crush it fresh, wait about five minutes, and then consume or use it. That maximizes the allicin.

[(Anonymous)]

does anyone have any thoughts on why these old remedies all seem to suggest putting onions/garlic on the soles of the feet, rather than anywhere else?

[claire_58]

It has to do with the number of pores per square inch. The soles and palms have no hair follicles so have a significantly higher number of pores than other areas of the skin. It makes the feet a prime spot detoxing as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, Claire. That suggests that palms would be as effective a place for the onions as the soles of the feet.

Persistently coughing kiddo is now no longer coughing, I'm glad to say. Took a good few days of sole onions, but it does appear to be a very effective trick.

[methylethyl]

I expect palms are a bit more difficult, and you're more likely to object to the smell there ;)

[claire_58]

and you can't use your hands.

[(Anonymous)]

This could be a great subplot in a cowboy movie.

'The man who tried to shoot Liberty Valance was caught unawares while 'bathing' his palm.'

[(Anonymous)]

I read about somebody who made some sort of garlic paste and woke up with their hair/ scalp burned off - the hair never to return -

so there must be some sort of 'caution' used.

[claire_58]

I've never heard garlic recommended for areas with hair. It's used to make ear oil and putting the cut side of a clove on a sliver will draw it out.

Unfortunately most herbal home remedies come with some kind of apocryphal story of horrific things happening to people who used them. If I was the paranoid type I'd begin to suspect that there was some force out there that would prefer us not to take charge of our own health.