Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 114
Oct. 10th, 2023 02:38 pm
We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2023-10-10 06:47 pm (UTC)https://sciencetm.substack.com/p/science-tm-is-still-alive-at-baylor
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Date: 2023-10-13 04:10 am (UTC)Maybe a metallic mosquito..............with a little unicorn stiletto forehead.......
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Date: 2023-10-10 06:54 pm (UTC)I am trying again:
https://i.imgur.com/7vaT1E2.jpeg
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Date: 2023-10-10 07:10 pm (UTC)Uh-oh.
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Date: 2023-10-11 04:33 pm (UTC)Also its autumn, so its natural for people get sick, flu season is about to begin, so let's not be alarmist about that.
That said, there was a strange event I ran into while driving recently. A driver at a busy intersection was about to make a left turn, when they suddenly stopped mid-turn. I could see the driver collapse onto the passenger's seat. They just stopped there, blocking traffic. I drove on, so I don't know what happened to them, but seeing that made me feel uneasy.
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Date: 2023-10-10 08:36 pm (UTC)This seems to suggest a sense that trouble is very close right now. Is there anything in particular you're watching which gives you the sense that things are about to get very ugly?
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From:Current mood
Date: 2023-10-10 08:55 pm (UTC)Data point here, everyone is my household is some degree of ill. Ear infection, sore throat, cough that never goes away. I'm about the healthiest which isn't saying much, fatigue keeps me far below my former self. Had a rush pediatrician visit last week. The previous visit, it was still all mask all the time. I keep thinking, for the sake of my children, do I go along, do I say enough is enough... Stop the madness, these things can't prevent viral infection... if you can breathe in it, you can catch a cold in it. Well, it was a mixed bag. My wife went along but I saw enough maskless parents and children to keep to my resolve. Still have to go back in a few weeks for flu shots... I keep wondering if they will they push the poison? They've been pretty quiet on it. Someone here commented a few weeks back about Gates and his stated ambition (cause it sure didn't sound like a warning) that the next big bug would attack children, a sure fire way to whip up support and compliance. It boggles my mind, the depth of evil that is suffocating medicine, just following the $cience...
We're in the hunt for schools and my wife is on a mission. I run along but I can't stop thinking about the future I see coming and wonder how realistic it is to send our child to any one of these hyper competitive schools. Funny thing is, I was standing around my house not too long ago, in the usual daze and stupor that these times produce and I heard my wife comment on the year 3,000. She said that our very young children would be alive to see the date. I didn't utter a word, I just stood and nodded, luckily there were others in the room to humor that comment. In my heart of hearts and to share in the one place where my inner heart comes to talk, I would consider us lucky if we make it to 2040... maybe even 2030 could be a crap shoot if wars go hot worldwide. The one thing I have become convinced of, with cooties and the reaction there of, it's that we are in a war already, and all the Goliaths are on the other side. I don't care, it's good company here with you Davids' but I don't kid myself about the general outlook. I'll keep throwing my stones where I can. Thanks to comments here, I found my way to the Bobbie Cox legal fund donation page, stone thrown! And I intend on throwing more, aiming for the white of their eyes... Braced for trouble indeed.
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Date: 2023-10-11 02:10 am (UTC)As for the year 3,000. Wow that image is a cold bucket of bracing water.
What in the world are my progeny and their progeny inheriting. My generation did diddley squat to make a better world.
Hey I'm Whitman. I contain multitudes. Maybe there is a better world I don't see.
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Date: 2023-10-10 09:02 pm (UTC)No big deal but curious. Im About to get the bivalent version of whatever version of the jab they have at the VA on family insistence.
I assume they have the proper cold chain up here, which we used to hear so much of. Frankly my uninformed opinion is the less it does the better.
Walmart has ads for the flu shot out quite prominently, which seems like an odd marketing choice for their brand. Doubling up on that and this years flu shot seems to be going unstudied. We are only human though.
All this ai hype and funding from dhhs is coming along though. Maybe then we can get some answers.
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Date: 2023-10-10 09:08 pm (UTC)i have/had a friend that WILL NOT talk about the shot his family insisted he get. He's 15 years younger then I and sounds and acts 20 older. He has the worst case of "we're all going to die anyway so why worry" i have ever encountered.
so... prayers/good thought's out to my friend(?) please. An don't forget to take you Vit D3 (8000IU).
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Date: 2023-10-14 09:18 am (UTC)If you ever get permission from your friend to pray on his behalf, I'll happily add a prayer on his behalf to the community list.
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Date: 2023-10-11 12:15 am (UTC)Lathechuck
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Date: 2023-10-10 09:18 pm (UTC)(The reason I'm asking is that I can see a lot of potential trouble upcoming, but the effects of "corona" in particular don't seem to me to pick up speed right now.)
Thanks,
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Date: 2023-10-10 11:01 pm (UTC)Move on, nothing to see here?
Date: 2023-10-10 09:36 pm (UTC)Alex B has posted a provocative post for some who frequent here (made me think anyway). It does feel like many just want it blooming over with now, if it isn't already in their minds. Surely, with current world events moving things on, it virtually is?
'Most people are happy to have Covid behind them. They aren't getting more jabs, but they would rather believe they did the right thing than worry they didn't.'
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/why-a-reckoning-over-the-mrnas-is
Re: Move on, nothing to see here?
Date: 2023-10-11 02:37 am (UTC)So no, covid's not over, not at all.
Of note, Peter Daszak has been scheduled to testify about the lab creation of SARSCoV-2, and the coverup, before Congress in mid-November.
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Date: 2023-10-10 10:05 pm (UTC)If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.
This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.
May Kyle's friend Amanda, who though in her early thirties is undergoing various difficult treatments for brain cancer, make a full recovery; and may her body and spirit heal with grace.
May Jeff Huggin's friends Dale and Tracy be blessed and healed; may Dale's blood and spinal fluid infection clear up sufficiently to receive a heart valve replacement; may his medical procedures go smoothly and with success; and may Dale and Tracy successfully surmount these difficulties.
Russ Hopson, the spouse of Kate Bowden, friend of Peter Van Erp, is suffering from a yet undiagnosed malady which has caused seizures. Please pray for understanding for his physicians, and his recovery to health.
May Mya be released from her addiction, may her emotional, mental, and physical bodies by fully healed; and may she find Higher guidance as she makes her way on her life path.
May Erika's partner James, who has just learned he has cancer all over inside him on his liver and lungs, be blessed, healed and protected.
In the case of Princess Cutekitten and the large bank who is suing her, may justice be done, with harm to none.
Lp9's hometown, East Palestine, Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people, animals and all living beings in and around East Palestine, and to improve the natural environment there to the benefit of all.
Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are now to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.
If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
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Date: 2023-10-17 04:49 am (UTC)thank you thank you thank you.
good night. so tired. so happy.
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Braced for trouble?
Date: 2023-10-10 10:08 pm (UTC)Re: Braced for trouble?
Date: 2023-10-10 11:01 pm (UTC)buying that i-medicine
Date: 2023-10-10 11:31 pm (UTC)About a year and a half ago, I bought some ivermectin for dh who would be traveling for work and who, being uninjected and never having been infected (afahk), wanted some "insurance". I found an online source in India, bought the medicine with only a minor glitch (I paid, they sent an email requesting payment, I showed proof of pmt through PayPal, they _kinda_ said, "oh, oops" and then they sent what I'd ordered).
Well, dh has to travel again and I figured it'd be good to up the supply (you never know, a loved one might need it for c-treatment while we're at it!).
Order placed, but cannot pay directly through PayPal and have to do a wire transfer (hmmm) and they requested going through Wise (used to be TransferWise). I attempted it and Wise said "we do not process transfers to this business."
Then, since a few days had passed, I got an email from the online pharmacy with a PayPal link, but it includes "PayPal fees totaling an extra 10% and includes special instructions to call the transaction for "writing content" because "PayPal doesn't allow transactions for medication."
Obviously we already knew PayPal sucks, but it looks like it's a distinct effort to make doubly sure that US folks (at least) cannot find an easy way to purchase what is an OTC in other countries because it's a Morally Bad and Repugnant Drug Being Used in Unapproved Ways!
Maybe this is a good time to ask if anyone has bought some recently and where. This place had a half-decent-for-extortion price, but if you can't get it or there are extra fees tacked on in the end... well, I'll shop around.
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From:Mercola on Turbocancers
Date: 2023-10-10 11:40 pm (UTC)STORY AT-A-GLANCE
Oncologists are reporting an alarming rise in post-jab “turbo cancers,” a term coined to
describe incredibly rapid-growing cancers in people who have received one or more
COVID jabs
Turbo cancers are showing up in young people, many under the age of 30, with no family
history of cancer. They’re also showing up in pregnant women and young children
Most turbo cancers are Stage 3 or 4 by the time they’re diagnosed, yet symptoms only
arose days or weeks ago. They grow and spread so rapidly, many patients die before
treatment can even begin. Most turbo cancers are also resistant to conventional
treatment
Rise in Cancer Will Likely Be a Long Term Trend
Within the first year of the rollout of the COVID shots, all-cause mortality started rising
in countries around the world, and again, it’s younger, working-age people who are dying
at unprecedented rates.
The good news is that booster uptake has cratered in the last six months. In Canada,
only 5% to 6% have gotten boosted. The bad news is that the avalanche of cancers is
likely to continue long term.
Cancer deaths are also likely to continue going up, because if we don’t know the exact
mechanism behind them, we cannot treat them, Makis notes, and both chemo and
radiation are proving useless. They don’t work against these rapid-onset cancers.
A key take-home here is that the more mRNA shots you take, the greater the immune
system damage, the greater your risk of impaired cancer surveillance and hence, the
greater your risk of turbo cancer.
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Date: 2023-10-11 02:10 am (UTC)This month marks about a year since a second cousin of mine never woke up from a nap. He was in his early thirties. I had only met him only once, but was sad to hear the news.
Another friend of a friend, also early thirties, died around the same time. Cancer that came so fast it was about nine months from diagnosis to death. He got about a month to enjoy with his newborn child before he died. His wife is now a widow and single mom.
These were sad occurrences, but two incidents do not a pattern make, and I would otherwise say it's been pretty quiet in my circles as far as the 'suddenlys' are concerned.
Dylan
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Date: 2023-10-11 02:30 am (UTC)In the last couple weeks an extended family member passed, a friend's cousin passed, a coworker's friend passed, and one of my students reported death in the family. All people 50yo or younger, two of these were recently diagnosed illnesses with at least some warning (though death came quickly), the rest unexpected. Also many more minor injuries and accidents among the people I know, and lots of illness, and in most households at least one person who can't "shake it." Today I heard a teacher remark that some rowdy boys better watch out, might be conscripted any day now and shipped off to Europe or the Middle East. I didn't laugh.
It has been grief-full and eerie to say the least.
Thankfully, we have been able to mostly recover from illness and injury; and I'm continuing with spiritual practices that are protective and nourishing. I'm reminding myself: "I'm not alive to run from suffering and death, but to move with, and contribute to, life."
I too am braced for trouble.
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Date: 2023-10-12 06:58 pm (UTC)I'm sorry for the bad news data points you have to report, but please do comment with thoughts on resiliency and new paths. I for one think this forum could adopt more of a forward looking practice. It is definitely a needed *Balance* to all this negative report. By all means we need to mourn, but there is a future generation that needs us to look forward if not for our own sake.
'A wise man plants a tree knowing he may not llve to enjoy its shade' is a guiding quote that I think gives life meaning.
Rapid onset dementia?
Date: 2023-10-11 03:58 am (UTC)Re: Rapid onset dementia?
Date: 2023-10-11 03:54 pm (UTC)Some cases:
https://react19.org/component/finder/search?q=dementia&Itemid=101
There is some more information about post-vaccine recovery protocols at FLCCC
https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/
Best wishes to you and your dad.
Chlorine Dioxide in Tablet Form
Date: 2023-10-11 07:01 am (UTC)Usually you have to muck around combining two agents to get chorine dioxide, thus the tablets are a useful option.
They talk only about its use as a disinfecting agent, deliberately staying away from its use orally, which you can read about elsewhere.
Coincidentally I have used it orally over a period of several years, mostly recently to mitigate a tooth infection. I'm still here, still kickin'. It does affect my digestion a bit, but the tradeoff is worth it in my view.
Of course, always consult your doctor before any treatment.
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Date: 2023-10-11 09:09 am (UTC)not medical advice, these are just some anecdotes, i'll update in a few days to note how my son is. in the meantime, if anyone is inspired to try CS, it's much better to make your own than buy it, a useful site (to which i hqve no link other than gratitude to its author for having helped me learn about CS a couple of decades ago) is:
https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/
equally nebulizers can be found at aliexpress for around 15 bucks delivered.
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Date: 2023-10-11 03:54 pm (UTC)It also helped me a great deal with my lingering cough.
So, thanks again
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Date: 2023-10-11 09:35 am (UTC)The ideas of individual freedom of choice, freedom of speech and diversity of opinion are not valued by most relevant parties.
What they value most is COMPLIANCE.
And I think, for the most part, that is exactly what to expect for the future.
Mass compliance.
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Date: 2023-10-12 01:05 am (UTC)Good to know that I am 'virtuous'! :) Honk honk!!
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How many are too many?
Date: 2023-10-11 01:55 pm (UTC)I'm wondering at which point does all this additional illness and death start to affect the functioning of society? What percentage of people must die or become disabled and in how long a period to, for example, cause companies to close because they can't find workers.(1) Or to cause sports clubs to close because they don't have enough members anymore.
And how far off from this point are we now?
(1). I'm of course excluding the people who refuse to work because they have found alternatives to exploitative jobs.
Re: How many are too many?
Date: 2023-10-11 05:17 pm (UTC)Well...
I live in one of the largest Canadian cities. There's around 1.5 million people living in the metropolitan area. Here at least, there are plenty of community groups which have never reopened; there are places which are starting to close earlier than they used to, including a grocery store which used to run 24 hours, even through the worst of the Covid insanity, which has just announced it'll be closing from 11 pm to 6 am; there are amateur and children sporting leagues which tried to reopen but haven't been able to find people.
What makes you so sure we're not already there? I don't think it would be a case where everything runs smoothly, and then suddenly there's a problem. One of the benefits to having a society which has built up such an elaborate system of pointless jobs, and made sure that goods and services are available at literally any time of day or night, is that it provides a lot of slack. There are plenty of people who can be moved to different, more important jobs; for instance, those people working overnights at the grocery store are probably not dead, but they may have found other jobs, or been moved to day shifts.
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Date: 2023-10-11 03:27 pm (UTC)https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-health-officials-must-release-3-years-of-covid-data-settlement-says/
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Date: 2023-10-11 10:33 pm (UTC)Nevermind that the newest version of the jab wasn't tested on humans. We're confident it's safe, because it uses the 'safe mRNA delivery system' (the one that failed all objective tests before they were hushed up and the placebo test group destroyed, so no comparisons were possible). Circular logic and late-stage, predatory capitalism at it's finest.
Oh well, at least the Russians are kickin' ass and Empire is flailing around in hapless delusion in any number of arenas.
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Date: 2023-10-11 08:14 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/six-u-s-senators-demand-inquiry-department-veteran/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=six-u-s-senators-demand-inquiry-department-veteran