Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 97
Jun. 13th, 2023 01:55 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-16 08:18 pm (UTC)It does suck to poison oneself, and I'm not in any way envious of the lesson that so many opted to learn from this go round, but we are all going to end up poisoning ourselves in at least one of our incarnations. Hey, some of us are also slow learners, so it may take us three or four self-poisonings before we actually learn that lesson good and well. Our souls and spirits will take whatever lessons we've learned from in this incarnation and carry them on to the next. The idea that our souls may not evolve in the inter-life period is ridiculous — that's just what souls do! Whatever grist we throw into the mill, that's what it ends up grinding up and baking into the next life.
Will the choice to get vaccinated affect one's karma? Naturally it will; all of our choices end up affecting our karma. Will the vaccine itself and it's toxicity affect one's karma? Not unless you made some choice about that and exerted your will. We don't accrue karma for other people's choices and will. Even if you were born with a family that had a curse on it, your soul came into that particular cursed life because of your own karma, not because of some long lost ancestor's bad karma. Will the vaccine itself and it's toxicity affect one's bodily health? That's precisely what it will do, and that in turn will affect the soul and spirit since everything is connected. But that effect will be a lesson the soul and spirit are looking to learn, not a violence that will prevent their being able to learn.
The kind of moralistic, holier-than-thou fear-baiting this author is indulging in is far more likely to compromise soul and spirit than the vaccines ever were. Blaming the victims or scaring the bejesus out of them while pretending good intentions may seem like fun and games, but, when Karma brings the consequences of that cruelty home to roost, it's not going to be much fun any more. A lot of people poisoned their bodies — that is the truth, and helping them to understand that truth is a kindness. Telling people that they somehow unwittingly poisoned their souls is a lie — their souls already know that fact, but fear peddlers could easily push their conscious minds past the brink of sanity through all their concern trolling.
There are some ways to destroy your soul if you try hard enough, but getting a fake vaccine is just not one of them. For some people, the lessons they will learn from vaccine poisoning will actually be able to clear out bad karma they’ve been dragging around with them. Life offers us what it offers, completely free of our good-bad moral judgments. We then get to decide whether to curse life or thank the gods for all the hard-earned lessons. What if every single choice we made, no matter how foolish, were just a blessing in disguise, waiting for us to realize it?
— Christophe
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-17 02:17 am (UTC)Now we can just feel smart and completely write off interesting problems like shedding (nope, I was virtuous! Magic shield +10 for 8 turns!), the initial unaddressed problems of an engineered virus and a still-intact industry capable of making more, the looming potential of increasing virulence in the current virus, the cataclysmic possibilities inherent in the idea that we may have a huge and increasing population of "walking wounded", increasingly sick and disabled, with comparatively fewer resources to care for them... and what that means for economies, governments, ponzi schemes that depend on perpetual growth (like social security), supply chains, etc. The possibility that there is no catharsis at all, and things just grind slowly down-- shabbier and dirtier-- until our great-grandkids come up with a better idea.
Those are quite bleak and complex things to try to get a handle on. Maybe predicaments to live with, not problems to solve, as our host likes to point out. There's so much uncertainty, even this far in. Uncertainty is stressful.
Making it a binary story about good vs. evil, smart vs. dumb, right vs. wrong... is easier. Nobody wants a story where a lot of confusing things happened, there were a ton of different players with a lot of muddy motives, nearly everybody was varying degrees of ill-informed, quite a lot of bad decisions were made, evil is stupid, good is impotent, and we still don't entirely know what the consequences will be. We *like* a story where I'm smart, I chose correctly, and I will be spared all negative consequences, and that other guy was dumb, chose poorly, and all resulting costs will fall on his head alone. So much the better if that happens in the afterlife, because then I don't have to deal with it in the messy here and now where we live in community with other human beings, and to a huge extent my wellbeing depends on others' wellbeing.
Plus, we live dull lives and LARPing as Psychic Warriors online is probably loads of fun.
Which is not to say there isn't some component of this thing that's operating outside the material plane. But the tendency I've noticed is... where I see that narrative, it tends to go (not logically I think) hand in hand with the idea that "I didn't get the shot, so I will be spared"-- sort of Chosen People style. And that's one of my back-away-slowly cues.
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-17 08:30 am (UTC)That said, it would be good to have some commentary on this book by Thomas Mayer from anyone who happens to have to read it. I have not read it yet, so that would not be me.
Two points:
Pride is very dangerous because it blinds us.
The nonmaterial realm, about which we humans in our meat suits for the most part have very little information, and to which our general culture pays almost zero attention, is noneless complex and profoundly important to our well-being.
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-17 06:14 pm (UTC)BUT I'm also extremely cautious about explanations where this is a big contest between The Righteous and The Unrighteous... and I'm The Righteous. It doesn't sit right.
The frequency with which I find those two things connected makes me want to tread extremely carefully. I *am* curious if Mayer goes there or not, and will be keeping tabs on the thread to see.
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-18 09:26 pm (UTC)Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-19 10:18 pm (UTC)Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-19 12:52 pm (UTC)Whenever the narratives that we learned to make sense out of the complexities of the world around us cease to serve that purpose, we will grasp at the most preposterously unbelievable stories to rescue us. Like, say, untested vaccines are safe, or perhaps, saving your soul is as easy as not getting vaccinated. We’re suckers for easy answers to complex questions. Why live through the messiness of real life when we can just LARP our best life instead? In our made-up stories, magic shield +10 protects us from whatever foolishness we’ve inflicted on our bodies or our souls. While in the real world, we’re all more or less damaged and trying our best to muddle through.
— Christophe
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-19 04:59 pm (UTC)Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-17 03:35 am (UTC)We lost my mother to Moderna in '21 and I
intuit from time to time how happy she is now. I'm most surprised at how funny she thinks "something" is. What exactly I dont know, but it's reassuring in light of the gritty, serious person she was in life here.
Gawain
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-19 01:32 pm (UTC)— Christophe
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-17 05:15 am (UTC)I can't imagine that the shots can actually harm souls, but I expect that there is a resonance between soul and body that can be disrupted if the integrity of the body is disrupted. Given that these shots cause the body to become just slightly not-self at a biochemical level, that could well be echoed at an energetic level which could damage the soul connection. Just a hypothesis that came to me as I was reading this.
Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-17 06:09 pm (UTC)Re: Thomas Mayer and Covid Vaccines
Date: 2023-06-19 10:55 am (UTC)The confusion with this whole topic is that there is no consistent definition for what constitutes soul vs. spirit. In the terminology I've been using, we die when the body part of the soul departs the body. Just as we would die were the etheric or astral part of the soul to leave their etheric and astral bodies. What I've been calling spirit, on the other hand can become distanced from all of our bodies, although that is a rather rare phenomenon.
However, both the spirit and the soul can very easily become blocked in their contact with our conscious minds, the far more vulnerable part of us. The vast majority of the energetic parasites that feed on us simply slowly whittle away the conscious mind's ability to remember the other aspects of self it can draw on for assistance. That's why infants, who can effortlessly talk to gods and see angels, end up losing that facility over time. Most of the gunkiness we carry around is just our consciously forgetting how large we actually are.
— Christophe