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not the good guysAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Date: 2023-06-14 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
I doubt that this hypothesis can be the whole story. It is US-centered, but early 2020 basically all of humanity went bonkers with the exception of Africa. The magical resistence was mostly an American phenomenon.

If there were dark forces involved, perhaps they were called upon by Gaia? The group that is hit the hardest aligns with the group that guzzles up most of Gaia's resources, aka the PMC-class in the first and second world countries.

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Date: 2023-06-14 07:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jruss
The magical resistance has members on every continent thanks to government programs that send progressives around the world to spread it, except for Africa.

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Date: 2023-06-14 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No, the Magic Resistance was not mostly an American phenomena; I know people from Australia, Canada, Mexico, Europe, etc. who got involved. This was one of the weird parts of it: it drew people from the PMC classes from all over the world. And oh dear gods, something just clicked.

Australia, Canada, and Europe got hit pretty hard by the blowback because those countries were full of people casting spells to try to interfere with American politics using magical methods, which were calling for the destruction of foreign powers interfering in American politics...

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Date: 2023-06-14 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was about to write the same, that this would mostly cover the US (and very few other countries). But there has been covid madness in pretty much all of Europe (including certain parts of Russia, as far as I‘ve read), in huge chunks of Asia and South America, and (if memory serves me) there were also things like vaccine mandates or passports in some African countries (although I might be mistaken there, it‘s been a while that I read about it).

Funnily enough, though, I don‘t think I‘ve ever read anything about the covid response in North Korea… :D

Anyway, if anybody can explain how the effects of TDS and the related workings could create such madness in such a variety of countries, I‘d love to read about it - I simply can‘t imagine how this could have worked.

To me, this was the weirdest thing which creeped me out the most: how so much of the world went completely bonkers in lockstep. That, together with the creepy vibes from this whole episode, makes me think there was something „non-human“ behind this all. But whether TDS and the response to it played such a major role… dunno - but I‘m open to explanations if anybody has them. :-)

Milkyway

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Date: 2023-06-14 10:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ari_ormstunga
The astrology around 2020 was pretty bonkers. I wouldn't be shocked if conditions were ripe for some heavy, malefic magical energies to get grounded out. I've heard scuttlebutt that at least one famous globalist billionaire uses high level astrology to further his goals in grubby ways. I wonder how much damage a billionaire with access to Picatrix level astrological magical techniques could do?

Speaking of Astronomology

Date: 2023-06-16 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
On July 6, 2020, there was a massive alignment of planets, with us in the middle of the line, and Uranus hanging out at 90 degrees to the rest of them. The moon had just had an eclipse so it was in the line too. The only way I found out about it was I felt really, really weird that day and looked it up on Fourmilab:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

(plug in the date in the "UTC" field; a "Size" of 500 shows things clearly)

I had not heard anything about it online; all the hooraw was about the upcoming Grand Mutation in December.

At the time I had the sensation that a massive cosmic door had pivoted on its hinge and things were going to be very different from here on out.

- Cicada Grove

Re: Speaking of Astronomology

Date: 2023-06-17 07:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
That is a fascinating little tool. Of course its perspective is not the standard astrological one, which is earth-centred. This is more the perspective of someone (quite improbably if the "someone" is human) positioned above and outside our whole solar system.

Still, your sensation, and your reading of it, is a good data point. Thank you.

Re: Speaking of Astronomology

Date: 2023-06-17 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"At the time I had the sensation that a massive cosmic door had pivoted on its hinge and things were going to be very different from here on out."

I feel this pretty much every day now! Lyrics from an 1971 Carole King song rise up all the time: "I feel the earth move under my feet, I feel the sky come tumblin' down". 2020 was a turning point year of great magnitude. It began with a bang with the Saturn/Pluto conjunction, then an extended Jupiter/Pluto conjunction, culminating in the Grand Mutation on the winter solstice. Another famous song title from 1957 also seems apt: Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On!

Thanks for the interesting link.
Jim W

Re: Speaking of Astronomology

Date: 2023-06-18 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I haven't quite sensed a cosmic door pivoting on its hinges, but starting sometime around late 2020 or early 2021 (can't remember exactly), I started getting the weirdest sensation, which I've mentioned here before.

I periodically - like, it will happen 2-3 times in the course of a few days, then not for a while, then 2-3 times in a few days again - get a sensation that I can only describe as being hit by a mild earthquake tremor (or two) in the absence of any seismic activity. It's like something shoves me sideways, like you would feel as the tremor moved through and the earth itself jerked. It's a fairly mild, but very strange sensation. When it first happened, I used to ask other people if they had felt "a mild earthquake" and try to look up seismic activity on line, but nobody ever knew what I was talking about and I never found any seismic activity reports. (I live in an are with low seismic activity, and have never experienced more than a mild earthquake a few times in my life.)

Either I'm having weird full-body hallucinations, or there is something "else" going on that I'm sensing and which can't be explained by mundane means. Like I'm physically sensing a shift on another plane, maybe? Like something is shifting and settling into a new place, and I sometimes sense the jolts?

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Date: 2023-06-14 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Milkyway,

Here's how this works as I see it: in every country, there's an elite class that sets most of the policies and cultural thinking for said country. In plenty of nations, this elite social class is at least partially bought off by the American Empire; in some cases, they could survive but would lose an enormous amount of the perks they currently enjoy if the empire goes away; in others, they're dead without the ongoing military and financial support of the US. Even in countries such as Iran and Russia, where the social classes that run things at the moment are not tied to the US in this fashion, there are almost always competing power centres which are, and which would, if given a chance, happily take over. These are extremely vulnerable, since without the constant military, financial, and propaganda support of the American Empire, they are uncomfortably likely to end up dangling from lampposts, and even if they avoid that fate, their current perks depend on supporting Washington in local power struggles.

One of the core mechanisms by which the empire functioned was by the creation of new dollars, which could be used to gobble up huge amounts of overseas wealth, which was only possible without catastrophic inflation because a rapidly increasing amount of international trade was done in US dollars. This is why "free trade", where an ever increasing fraction of economic activity requires international trade, is so important to the empire: it's the means by which these dollars can be sent into circulation outside of the US, and thus can be created without causing a hyper-inflationary episode.

This constant outflow of dollars though caused a major economic imbalance in the US, and one side effect of this was the destruction of the factories and other manufacturing jobs which used to provide the working class with a huge percentage of their jobs, and a very large portion of the well paying ones. This played a massive role in plunging millions of Americans into poverty, and in depriving millions more of their ability to support their families without taking handouts; this is a very big deal to a lot of working class people: the inability to support a family without needing assistance has caused major psychological trauma to a lot of the working class.

Trump went on the offensive here, and, perhaps aware of what he was doing, perhaps not, started attacking the core of the American Empire's wealth pump; take free trade away, and the ability to print dollars on demand goes away; the end result would be the collapse, or at least drastic reduction, of the empire. This would result in a massive realignment, not just within the US, but around the globe; and this would see plenty of people who currently hold power suddenly lose it in dozens, if not hundreds of nations, and the core of the empire (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Western Europe, Japan, Taiwan, Israel) very suddenly lose a lot of international power and with it a lot of wealth; for at least two of these, this would in fact be an existential threat.

This meant that the elite classes around the world had every incentive to fight it, but there's a bitter irony here: their self-image said that they should be fighting for their own nation, and in many cases their home country has been ruined economically by free trade. In fact, one of the more brilliant elements of the American Empire is the way that since each nation raised its own elite class, they could reliably be counted on to fight each other, and try to push more of the costs of the empire onto other countries, instead of their own.

Suddenly faced with the fact that their interests were not aligned with those of their countries, and faced with the prospect of needing to defend a system that, up until this point, many of them had been fighting because of the damage it did to their own countries', the elite classes worldwide suffered mental breakdowns. TDS thus set in in not just in the US, but around the globe as people suffered meltdowns due to the cognitive dissonance associated with Trump; especially once it became clear that his rhetoric was not just bluster, but that he intended to try to keep at least some of his campaign promises. Meanwhile, since the US has spent decades using vast sums of money supporting "Progressive" movements around the world, there's a lot of support for the sort of magic which the Magic Resistance did, since the neo-pagan movement was, until quite recently, widely considered "Progressive".

The end result is that a huge number of the Magic Resistance workings were performed all around the world; and it seems likely to me that when they earthed out, they would have earthed out not just in the US, but in every society where the elites were involved with them. This is also, of course, also ignoring the very real possibility that other groups used magic of their own to try to attack Trump; which merely tosses in another wild card into the game.

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Date: 2023-06-15 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
One thing that really amazed me BEFORE all the Crow-vid lunacy was during our near-yearly trips to Ecnarf (my wife is French, and most of her family lives there) the folks there would be super-eager to ask about and disparage The Orange One, but when I’d ask about their upcoming Presidential elections they’d respond “Pffft, who cares…” as if presidential politics in the USA was FAR more important and consequential than the politics of their own country!

Really head-scratching. But if you postulate some sort of enchantment, it perhaps makes a bit more sense.

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Date: 2023-06-16 04:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is part of why I find it plausible that the Covid madness might be linked to whatever happened with that obsession over Trump: far too many people all over the world got very, very weird about it...

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Date: 2023-06-16 06:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It’s like that here in Australia too, in that as soon as Trump was elected, that is all anyone wanted to ask me about (I’m an American expat). People here seemed to love Obama, but Trump was something else on an entirely new level and since then, Australian politics is irrelevant. There were protests on campus here about Roe v Wade being overturned, but people can’t even remember who the current Australian PM is.

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Date: 2023-06-15 04:48 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In my experience, Gaia doesn’t collaborate with dark forces. There are some gods who will do that at the drop of a hat, but that questionable habit will usually jump out when reviewing the myths about them. Obviously, Gaia is a chthonic deity, well within the infrared/yin spectrum; however, she is a balanced and balancing expression of yin, very different from some of the more troubling of the chthonic energies.

So many mythologies place all the chthonic powers of hell deep inside the earth that Gaia can come across as being hellish herself. She’s not though. If anything, she’s more the gatekeeper, keeping all those chthonic forces underneath her from imbalancing the world by surging up all unrestrained. Were she weakened, more of those forces could then escape to wreak havoc, but she’s not going to call them up herself. That would go against her nature, and, given that she IS nature, that would pretty much be the universe going against itself.

On the other hand, Gaia in her divine balance is perfectly willing to work with other balancing forces, such as Karma. The resource guzzling PMC-class has had some rather interesting karma coming its way for a very long time now. Maybe Gaia just thought it was high time for them to enjoy the fruits of the harvest they had so enthusiastically sown behind themselves with nary a thought for the consequences. I rather doubt that it would have taken much arm-twisting to get Karma to go along with her, if Gaia did decide the time for harvesting was ripe.

— Christophe
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