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not the good guysAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: What stage are we in...

Date: 2023-06-14 11:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, you are correct, the last stage is more lockdowns as we blame the latest variant (or whatever) for all the excess death. I was focusing on the last sentence in Stage 11: "It’s also impossible to know in advance how soon it will become clear that the vaccines are responsible—or just how violent a backlash against the political and economic establishment this could provoke." It was the knowledge that the vaccines are responsible and the backlash against the establishment that I was focusing on. Where I was coming from is, I don't think I will see that in my lifetime, not unless a lot of people get really hungry. We have already experienced lockdowns, no toilet paper, fired from jobs, etc., and nobody did anything. I think no food would be different. Not wishing for that to happen at all, just observing that there are no consequences for the more lockdowns, etc. I find myself withdrawing a little more every day. That is probably a good thing.

Re: What stage are we in...

Date: 2023-06-15 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] drakonus
“I find myself withdrawing a little more every day. That is probably a good thing.”
There is much to be said for walking away.
“nobody did anything.”
I very much object and disagree. People these days seem to have it in their mind that if an actual physical battle didn’t happen then nothing happened.
The trucker convoy.
The Supreme Court throwing out vaccine mandates.
The fact that we now have access to the court records and facts that Pfizer wanted to hide their data for 75 years.
The various governors that stood up for individual rights.
The individuals who were forced out of work and found other ways to survive and are now not returning like good little lemmings to a parasitic and abusive corporate hierarchy.
Was it perfect? Of course not. But it was a lot. A lot of things got done and a lot of people were involved. We are currently winning this war. They are desperate and not very effective. Busily trying to convince themselves that without them the whole thing falls apart. It isn’t true.

So while I respect your frustration, the branch Covidians never acknowledged they were wrong or apologized, they just changed the subject. That absolutely doesn’t equate to “nobody did anything.”

Re: What stage are we in...

Date: 2023-06-16 10:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
[personal profile] drakonus,
You make great points! You are right, people did do things! For myself, I left a job over the mandates before they could fire me. I had been at that job over 20 years and I took a substantial pay cut in the move. Best move I ever made. I am impatient and need to think about all the people who have stood up, myself included. In my PMC area, I spend too much time around Branch Covidians in work and family. Thanks for pointing out the good that happened, it helps!

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